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Old 09-14-2006   #1
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Default Troy Vincent may be cut

I just saw on NFL Live that Troy Vincent might be cut. I know he is on IR but they said that he will be back before the season is over. Since the Bills put him on IR does he have to be on IR with us too? If not he would be a good addittion to our secondary.
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I just saw on NFL Live that Troy Vincent might be cut. I know he is on IR but they said that he will be back before the season is over. Since the Bills put him on IR does he have to be on IR with us too? If not he would be a good addittion to our secondary.
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If we are looking for a quick fix this would be a good dude to get. From what I understand he plays safety now. This would be huge for the developement of our safties and a guy like Dunta to have out there also.

Vincent can still play IMO!!!!! We should jump on that.
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I heard that he will not be back this season. He is 35 right now and after a season ending injury i don't see how he could be back to his regular form afterwards.
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I thought you couldn't cut an injured player....
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I heard that he will not be back this season. He is 35 right now and after a season ending injury i don't see how he could be back to his regular form afterwards.
This claims he'll be out 4-6 weeks. Who knows? He still too old though.

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I heard that he will not be back this season. He is 35 right now and after a season ending injury i don't see how he could be back to his regular form afterwards.
He has a hammy issue just like Steve Smith, TO, Hines Ward. He will be available to play at some point this season which is why Takeo Spikes is PO'd about him getting IR'd. Once he is healed, he can be cut from IR by the Bills although he started the season with them so his $2.6 mil contract is guaranteed for the year. He can then play for any team but the Bills.
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"Putting safety Troy Vincent on the injured reserve list was an interesting move. Vincent is a leader. He's the president of the NFLPA, but he's a smart football player, the kind you want on a young defense in transition under Dick Jauron. He suffered a hamstring injury in the opener, but the Bills made the surprise move of putting him on injured reserve thus ending his season."
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didn't capers and crew try to get him before he signed with buffalo when he was a CB. Could be mistaken, i think it was antoine winfield don't remember i went to get hypnotized so I wouldn't have to remember about the previous regime.j/k
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15 year veteran, just how good do you think he will be running after guys not even born yet when he came into NFL
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Default Re: Troy Vincent may be cut

Alright guys he was cut today and our secondary isnt any better than it was 3 weeks ago. So lets go ahead and pick him up for this year and possibly next and draft a safety that can sit and learn from him.
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Default Re: Troy Vincent may be cut

ugh seriously.

"too old" or my other least favorite " too injury prone"

Do any of ya'll remeber Darrell Green? The guy played CB into his late 30's.

Honestly i'm tired of refering to players too old when that is what has plagued this team pretty much after the first season is veterans getting cut and replaced with younger inexperienced players and no key veterans to help them develop. If nothing else it couldn't hurt us to bring him inand see what he has left. A few years ago Bobby Taylor and him made the premier CB tandem in the league in Philly. All it could do is help our secondary...which is ...just not there.
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I.R. = out for the year
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ugh seriously.

"too old" or my other least favorite " too injury prone"

Do any of ya'll remeber Darrell Green? The guy played CB into his late 30's.

Honestly i'm tired of refering to players too old when that is what has plagued this team pretty much after the first season is veterans getting cut and replaced with younger inexperienced players and no key veterans to help them develop. If nothing else it couldn't hurt us to bring him inand see what he has left. A few years ago Bobby Taylor and him made the premier CB tandem in the league in Philly. All it could do is help our secondary...which is ...just not there.
Yea! Looks like Aaron Glenn is doing fine, everytime I watch the Cowboys I here his name, he is what 30+ and I wish (just like Dunta) that he was still here.

Troy can play ball, if he makes our team better then I am all for it.
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I like Troy, always have since his days in PHilly, but IMO anything is better than CC @ FS. We could pick him up, stick CC on the pine for depth @ the SS, & if Petey comes back, we'd be OK for Nickel situations instead of relying on Mccleon.
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I am pretty sure that since the Bills put him on IR and they cut him that he is no longer on IR. And I also think that in order for him to make our team he has to pass a physical.
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15 year veteran, just how good do you think he will be running after guys not even born yet when he came into NFL
Ummmm...so, are you telling me you don't think he would be an upgrade over CC??
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I am pretty sure that since the Bills put him on IR and they cut him that he is no longer on IR. And I also think that in order for him to make our team he has to pass a physical.
The Bills designation of IR for Vincent only means he can not play for them this year. He has passed a physical in order to be released. He is guaranteed his salary of $2.6 mil for this season by the Bills. He can go sign with anyone but the Bills at this point.

Dexter McCleon is 33 years old running around out there now. They need to think long and hard about this one.
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didn't capers and crew try to get him before he signed with buffalo when he was a CB. Could be mistaken, i think it was antoine winfield don't remember i went to get hypnotized so I wouldn't have to remember about the previous regime.j/k
Winfield was who we had targeted.

My analysis on the Troy Vincent ordeal: IT IS A GIFT.

You don't get players like this dropped into your lap every day.

We have shown we will make a tough cut to make roster space. I believe we have been saying that we were always looking for DBs. The guy is a solid character and would be a good locker room presence. He's playing Safety and not up on the line as a CB.

Age is his only knock against him.

I'd sign him.
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They did cut him, and they did for salary cap reasons

A lot of eyebrows were raised when he went on IR for a hamstring injury that was not season ending, but the Bills did it so they could release him after the years end and not be held accountable for his remaining contract

They cut him lose today and he is free to sign with another team from what I understood

Vincent was hurt how the Bills treated him, but is looking to move on
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