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Old 09-13-2006   #1
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Default Worst move yet?

I everybodys opinion, when did we make our biggest mistake.

My opinion is the expansion draft.
James Allen, Tony Boselli, MATT STEVENS enough said

We passed on some major guys too. Casserly said no one over thirty, so we passed on a lot of talented offensive lineman and linebackers. we could have loaded that team.
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Wasting a 2nd round pick on Tony Hollings.
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biggest mistake was Babin IMO.

dont get me wrong, I like Babin and im glad we have him.. but the price was too high for what we got. There were a lot of good players taken in the second and third round of the 2004 draft.

Second biggest would be letting Aaron Glenn go. He hasnt done a whole lot with Dallas.. but he did do a whole lot here in our System. The year we let him go..he DID look like he had lost a step.. but Dunta looked great across from Glenn, and we had a very effective secondary. I dont regret getting Buchanan.. but id rather have kept them both.

Third biggest would be moving McKinney to center rather than getting a real center.

4th would be focusing on skill positions in the draft, rather than olinemen and dlinemen. Nevermind..this one is #1..move the others down a notch.

5th was Vic Fangio.
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Bygones. No interest in. But as a matter of historical horror....

Who did we pass up who was a can't miss?

Boselli passes the physical, Roaf does not. Interesting alternative universe if the reverse hold true.

The problem with the expansion draft is by the time the Texans became a franchise, teams had figured out the salary cap. So most of the players exposed were guys that weren't worth the salary they were getting. If we wanted to get better quality guys, we had to take salary dump guys too (which was a part of the Boselli deal, BTW).

Out of all the recent expansion franchises, the Texans got the worst deal.
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biggest mistake was Babin IMO.

dont get me wrong, I like Babin and im glad we have him.. but the price was too high for what we got. There were a lot of good players taken in the second and third round of the 2004 draft.

Second biggest would be letting Aaron Glenn go. He hasnt done a whole lot with Dallas.. but he did do a whole lot here in our System. The year we let him go..he DID look like he had lost a step.. but Dunta looked great across from Glenn, and we had a very effective secondary. I dont regret getting Buchanan.. but id rather have kept them both.

Third biggest would be moving McKinney to center rather than getting a real center.

4th would be focusing on skill positions in the draft, rather than olinemen and dlinemen. Nevermind..this one is #1..move the others down a notch.

5th was Vic Fangio.

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Don't forget, most importantly, these were the Dum Capers and Charlie Casserly days with his glasses sitting sideways on his face and fogged up.....saying we need to execute some more........ every sunday night on CH. 13........Jermaine Lewis what happend to him. The Texans 2002 yearbook states one of the most electrifying return men in the game..........what were they drinking when they wrote that..... I did like Jamie Sharper, I believe he was a true veteran like A. Glen that provided somekind of foundation for the Texans.........but who know's
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biggest mistake was Babin IMO.

dont get me wrong, I like Babin and im glad we have him.. but the price was too high for what we got. There were a lot of good players taken in the second and third round of the 2004 draft.

Second biggest would be letting Aaron Glenn go. He hasnt done a whole lot with Dallas.. but he did do a whole lot here in our System. The year we let him go..he DID look like he had lost a step.. but Dunta looked great across from Glenn, and we had a very effective secondary. I dont regret getting Buchanan.. but id rather have kept them both.

Third biggest would be moving McKinney to center rather than getting a real center.

4th would be focusing on skill positions in the draft, rather than olinemen and dlinemen. Nevermind..this one is #1..move the others down a notch.

5th was Vic Fangio.
I'd replace Babin with Hollings, but agree with the list for the most part. I like Babin and what he's done. Well worth the deal, IMO. It may not have been a great deal, but the guys we could've picked up instead would mean that we kept Capers and Kubiak would have signed with the Raiders or Green Bay.
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Bygones. No interest in. But as a matter of historical horror....

Who did we pass up who was a can't miss?

Boselli passes the physical, Roaf does not. Interesting alternative universe if the reverse hold true.

The problem with the expansion draft is by the time the Texans became a franchise, teams had figured out the salary cap. So most of the players exposed were guys that weren't worth the salary they were getting. If we wanted to get better quality guys, we had to take salary dump guys too (which was a part of the Boselli deal, BTW).

Out of all the recent expansion franchises, the Texans got the worst deal.
Yeah, Boselli passed the same "physical" that Gado is getting: Free and clear, you're rrrrrready to play, Samkon!

We had to take Boselli and his salary to get Payne and Walker. Man, those Jags owe us big time.

We are the freaking floormat of the NFL: Hey, need to rid yourself of some big cap hits...or perhaps you have an injured and aging veteran to quietly ship off your team? Look no further: The Texans are taking all applications (You CANNOT be turned down!), with our special team of physicians to administer that necessary "physical" to get the trade pushed through for good.

We don't need Reggie Bush. We've got tons of running backs coming through our doors every day! :brickwall
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Yeah, Boselli passed the same "physical" that Gado is getting: Free and clear, you're rrrrrready to play, Samkon!

We had to take Boselli and his salary to get Payne and Walker. Man, those Jags owe us big time.

We are the freaking floormat of the NFL: Hey, need to rid yourself of some big cap hits...or perhaps you have an injured and aging veteran to quietly ship off your team? Look no further: The Texans are taking all applications (You CANNOT be turned down!), with our special team of physicians to administer that necessary "physical" to get the trade pushed through for good.

We don't need Reggie Bush. We've got tons of running backs coming through our doors every day! :brickwall
Stop your killing me my ribs are hurting bad from laughing.....I love the way you put it though..........Honey time to buy a new doormat for the front of the house.........have some new players coming over for dinner tonight...
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Dom Capers.
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Dom Capers.

Speaking of Dom what is he up to now a days? Anyone know?


I was thinking more along these lines.....
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On January 23, 2006, the Miami Dolphins announced the hiring of Dom Capers as the team's defensive coordinator. There, he will also serve as assistant head coach under Nick Saban.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dom_Capers
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Drafting Jabar Gaffney. That wasn't the worst personnal move, but the very next pick, the Broncos selected Clinton Portis...
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but we had james allen remember. seems like dude only 5 snaps before he was done
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but we had james allen remember. seems like dude only 5 snaps before he was done
Didn't he leave to persue a singing career or something?
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Drafting Jabar Gaffney. That wasn't the worst personnal move, but the very next pick, the Broncos selected Clinton Portis...
why don't you get your facts straight before you bring up that played out fact up AGAIN. it went pitts, then portis with next pick in the middle of the second. thanks for bringing that up. so what o-line was portis going to run behind again?
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1. hiring casserly
2. who hired dom
3. who mad this team into "doormat of the nfl" because all the chances we got in the nfl drafts have been wasted on players that cant cut it so we take other teams scrubs over our own
4. who let go jamie sharper and aaron glenn
5. who makes me read a lot of nonsense on this message board
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P. Buch for our 2nd and 3rd round picks
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i wasnt a football fan when the Houston Texans started so the worst move while i have been a fan, has been passing on Derrick Johnson
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