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Old 09-12-2006   #1
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Lets follow these two all season and see who is most productive and more worthy of being THE #1 pick. I mean seriously, are the Saints THAT much better than the Texans?

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You are forgetting that right now Saints are 1-0 and Texans are 0-1.
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While we're at it let's compare oh I don't know ... oranges and apples or night versus day. Don't mean to be a smart a&* but this horse is dead ...
at least on this board it should be
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I shouldn't have even read this thread but honestly, how can you compare a DE and a RB? Two different positions on two different sides of the ball on two different teams. Just because the guys were drafted #1 and #2 overall doesn't mean they can justly be compared to one another.
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Lets follow these two all season and see who is most productive and more worthy of being THE #1 pick. I mean seriously, are the Saints THAT much better than the Texans?

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I agree. Let's follow them despite all the ridiculous homerism on this board. The staff should be accountable for the decision they made, good or bad.

I swear; some people think being a fan is putting "earmuffs" on and saying, "la la la la la la...I'm NOT listening"; no matter what evidence is shown.

The question is, how good is this apple relative to other apples compared to this orange relative to other oranges?
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I agree. Let's follow them despite all the ridiculous homerism on this board. The staff should be accountable for the decision they made, good or bad.

I swear; some people think being a fan is putting "earmuffs" on and saying, "la la la la la la...I'm NOT listening"; no matter what evidence is shown.

The question is, how good is this apple relative to other apples compared to this orange relative to other oranges?


Wow - could that make any less sense? What other apples were #1 DE's? and #2 RB's? Relatively speaking that is
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I think this is beating a dead horse, but for arguments sake...The two can be compared...Who was the better player last year...Favre or Freeney ? Tomlinson or Travis Johnson ? It's not rocket science...If they both do relatively well then why would it matter ? One will have to do extremely better than the other one for someone to say i told you so...
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Why did'nt we draft Laurence Moroney ... he had 145 total yds on less touches than Reggie Bush . We are dumb #$# because we did'nt draft LM .

How can we be so stupid he carried , the University of Minnesota and did'nt have Matt L , Lendale , Byrd , Justice , or the two gaurds that were drafted to lighten the load . Nope we're stupid because Moroney's the real deal . To hell with Mario and to hell with Reggie ... LM for ROY .
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Let's say Reggie turns out to be a HoF'er and Mario busts. Oops, didn't see that coming, in hindsight Kubiak should've gone for Reggie. Now what? Will you be content if we all kick and scream and lament over how stupid our front office is, and how reggie was so great, and how you knew it all along? There's no crystal ball folks, if we look back 5 years from now and see we made a mistake then we made a mistake, no sense b*tching about it. I advise you to judge Kubiak based on how our team performs with him at the helm, not how lucky he gets in the crapshoot they call the draft. One player, one draft pick does not a team make.

As for keeping track of their stats to seeing who's playing better, sure. That's interesting, but not very indicative of who will be better for their team in the long run.
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Why did'nt we draft Laurence Moroney ... he had 145 total yds on less touches than Reggie Bush . We are dumb #$# because we did'nt draft LM .

How can we be so stupid he carried , the University of Minnesota and did'nt have Matt L , Lendale , Byrd , Justice , or the two gaurds that were drafted to lighten the load . Nope we're stupid because Moroney's the real deal . To hell with Mario and to hell with Reggie ... LM for ROY .



I like LM too but "to hell with Mario"???? Dude that is out of line if you are a Texans fan. What could possibly prompt that???
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who was better? Marshall Faulk or Johnny Unitas?
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let's see. two positions that recieve different levels of hype. there's the flashy rb position played by reggie bush, and then there is the more grunt work position, dl, being played by m williams. the numbers of a rb are bigger in comparison to the of a dl position. plus...i have a question. what's the average tackles a dlineman makes in a season? i'll take williams over bush all the time because it will better for the team in the long run.
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I'll take Unitas cause he played against Frank Gifford ... who's been with Kathy Lee .
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Let's say Reggie turns out to be a HoF'er and Mario busts. Oops, didn't see that coming, in hindsight Kubiak should've gone for Reggie. Now what? Will you be content if we all kick and scream and lament over how stupid our front office is, and how reggie was so great, and how you knew it all along? There's no crystal ball folks, if we look back 5 years from now and see we made a mistake then we made a mistake, no sense b*tching about it. I advise you to judge Kubiak based on how our team performs with him at the helm, not how lucky he gets in the crapshoot they call the draft. One player, one draft pick does not a team make.

As for keeping track of their stats to seeing who's playing better, sure. That's interesting, but not very indicative of who will be better for their team in the long run.

Although its way too early to make any judgements whether any of these rookies will pan out to be quality picks, I disagree that wasting first round, top 10 picks will not make ur franchise; bad personnel decisions always haunt a team. Look at Capers' crew, there first decision was to bring in Boselli, and the franchise is still dealing with that mistake. I can't think of many teams with first picks that don't pan out, but still wins (Broncos maybe w/ the WRs). Bottom line, if Mario or any top 15 pick is a bust, the stink will not go away for a good while...
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Although its way too early to make any judgements whether any of these rookies will pan out to be quality picks, I disagree that wasting first round, top 10 picks will not make ur franchise; bad personnel decisions always haunt a team. Look at Capers' crew, there first decision was to bring in Boselli, and the franchise is still dealing with that mistake. I can't think of many teams with first picks that don't pan out, but still wins (Broncos maybe w/ the WRs). Bottom line, if Mario or any top 15 pick is a bust, the stink will not go away for a good while...
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Jesus. Since it was such a huge issue and so many people had such strong opinions, I just thought it would be fun to follow the production of each throughout the season. Who cares about apples and oranges, just have a little fun and go with it. Afterall, since the Texans spent the #1 pick on a DE, wouldn't you expect him to be an LT (Lawrence Taylor) type of impact player...without the coke of course???
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I bet if we had played the Browns instead of Philly, no one would be having this conversation....
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I like LM too but "to hell with Mario"???? Dude that is out of line if you are a Texans fan. What could possibly prompt that???
I detect a hint of sarcasm...

The Texans FO tried to trade up to get Maroney or DeAngelo Williams, but the Bears offered more. We wouldn't have ended up with Meco, so I'm not complaining.
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