Our Secondary Is Terrible--Ahmad Carroll. - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

WILLIEG · 09-10-2006

One of our biggest problems this year is the play or lack of play from our secondary. D. robinson is the only bright spot, but I feel as if his coverage skills aren't shinning like they were when he was a rookie. Everyone else is averahge and that's putting it nicely. They are ging to be the achilles heel of this year. And I really wish we had the type of LB's that could drop into coverage and help out our secondary, but we don't. However, D. Ryans is going to be a great MLB, so at least that's a bright spot.

DBCooper · 09-10-2006

Then our front 4 need to get after the QB before he can pick em apart.

MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS · 09-11-2006

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Originally Posted by WILLIEG

One of our biggest problems this year is the play or lack of play from our secondary. D. robinson is the only bright spot, but I feel as if his coverage skills aren't shinning like they were when he was a rookie. Everyone else is averahge and that's putting it nicely. They are ging to be the achilles heel of this year. And I really wish we had the type of LB's that could drop into coverage and help out our secondary, but we don't. However, D. Ryans is going to be a great MLB, so at least that's a bright spot.

It also hurts not having Faggins in there........

The Dude Abides · 09-11-2006

I saw little to no pressure on McNabb all game. That said, I thought Lewis Sanders looked terrible. Dunta only got beat on one play but he made some really good plays that made up for it.

Grid · 09-11-2006

Dunta is just fine.

He is playing as hard as he did his Rookie year, he just doesnt have as much help.

**utahmark** · 09-11-2006

its hard for me to be to hard on the secondary with the protection mcnabb had.

YoungTexanFan · 09-11-2006

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Originally Posted by MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS

It also hurts not having Faggins in there........

No it doesn't. He is slower than and less talented than Sanders and Buchanon. Believe me, you would be calling for him to be benched if you saw him play today.

Texans Horror · 09-11-2006

Dunta played an excellent game. He was all over the place. It felt like every three tackles belonged to either Dunta or Demeco.

That being said, we are going to be lit up if we can't rush the QB. The secondary, overall, is one of our weakest areas. Hopefully this next offseason (only four months away!) we can get an effective secondary through trades, FA, or picks.

09-11-2006

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Originally Posted by MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS

It also hurts not having Faggins in there........

Sanders had a good game...We didn't miss Faggins...

**beerlover** · 09-11-2006

only one game. we already knew that the Texans defensive short commings we're in the secondary, no big surprise there, Philly realized this and took advantage of it. I'd almost bet a beer that the Texans draft a DB in the 1'st rd. in the 2007 NFL draft. also they release Phillip Buchanaon

V Man · 09-11-2006

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Originally Posted by beerlover

I'd almost bet a beer that the Texans draft a DB in the 1'st rd. in the 2007 NFL draft. also they release Phillip Buchanaon

I'd almost bet one that the Texans draft two to three DBs in next years draft. Not to mention another good LB.

09-11-2006

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Originally Posted by beerlover

only one game. we already knew that the Texans defensive short commings we're in the secondary, no big surprise there, Philly realized this and took advantage of it. I'd almost bet a beer that the Texans draft a DB in the 1'st rd. in the 2007 NFL draft. also they release Phillip Buchanaon

I think he is a free agent after this year..IIRC....But IMO, he is one of our more talented DB's...We would have to really re-load to let him walk...

Rightnow · 09-11-2006

Yes, our secondary is probably the weakest spot on the team. It is questionable if Sanders, Earl or Brown would be starters on most teams and definitely wouldn't be starting on playoff teams. Besides Ryans our LB core is made up of backups as well. Orr and Greenwood are little more than warm bodies in the position and certainly aren't playmakers.

No pass rush with a below average secondary equals losing record for the year.

**SheTexan** · 09-11-2006

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Originally Posted by xtruroyaltyx

Sanders had a good game...We didn't miss Faggins...

I was watching the TEXAN/EAGLE game. What were you watching?! Sanders got burned all day. I can't wait for Petey to get back. Sanders can keep the bench warm! JMO!!!

09-11-2006

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Originally Posted by SheTexan

I was watching the TEXAN/EAGLE game. What were you watching?! Sanders got burned all day. I can't wait for Petey to get back. Sanders can keep the bench warm! JMO!!!

I will rewatch the whole game and I will get back to you with a definite response...BUT...from just what I remember He played well...He had two nice pass break-ups that I remember, and I don't remember him "getting burned all day"....I know he was atleast not burned too bad in the first half....

chuckm · 09-11-2006

You can put Deion Sanders, Lester Hayes, Ronnie Lott, and Jake Scott back there but if the QB has all day to throw ..........

Texans Horror · 09-11-2006

No defensive pass rush, and low talent (do NOT include Dunta in that statement) in the secondary. At least this year we don't play any teams known for passing offenses (Philly, Indy, Dallas, Jax). Oh, snap...

jdog · 09-11-2006

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Originally Posted by xtruroyaltyx

I will rewatch the whole game and I will get back to you with a definite response...BUT...from just what I remember He played well...He had two nice pass break-ups that I remember, and I don't remember him "getting burned all day"....I know he was atleast not burned too bad in the first half....

I thought Sanders was a bright spot on defense. He made some great plays.

El Amigo Invisible · 09-11-2006

Why didn't we address this in the offseason?

El Tejano · 09-11-2006

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Originally Posted by jdog

I thought Sanders was a bright spot on defense. He made some great plays.

I'm not sure how Sanders eats with those hands. He let two ints drop.

The whole DB field just stunk today.

09-10-2006	#1
WILLIEG Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 282 Rep Power: 8	Our Secondary Is Terrible--Ahmad Carroll. One of our biggest problems this year is the play or lack of play from our secondary. D. robinson is the only bright spot, but I feel as if his coverage skills aren't shinning like they were when he was a rookie. Everyone else is averahge and that's putting it nicely. They are ging to be the achilles heel of this year. And I really wish we had the type of LB's that could drop into coverage and help out our secondary, but we don't. However, D. Ryans is going to be a great MLB, so at least that's a bright spot.

09-10-2006	#2
DBCooper Outlaw Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Winter Park, FL Age: 44 Posts: 2,457 Rep Power: 11142	Then our front 4 need to get after the QB before he can pick em apart. __________________ What's that at the bottom of the barrel? Just the inbred children of Uranus!

09-11-2006	#4
The Dude Abides Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Texas Age: 28 Posts: 1,078 Rep Power: 38	I saw little to no pressure on McNabb all game. That said, I thought Lewis Sanders looked terrible. Dunta only got beat on one play but he made some really good plays that made up for it. __________________ Boom. Roasted.

09-11-2006	#10
beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,358 Rep Power: 15075	only one game. we already knew that the Texans defensive short commings we're in the secondary, no big surprise there, Philly realized this and took advantage of it. I'd almost bet a beer that the Texans draft a DB in the 1'st rd. in the 2007 NFL draft. also they release Phillip Buchanaon __________________ 2012 Draft was Mercilus

09-11-2006	#13
Rightnow Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 248 Rep Power: 9	Yes, our secondary is probably the weakest spot on the team. It is questionable if Sanders, Earl or Brown would be starters on most teams and definitely wouldn't be starting on playoff teams. Besides Ryans our LB core is made up of backups as well. Orr and Greenwood are little more than warm bodies in the position and certainly aren't playmakers. No pass rush with a below average secondary equals losing record for the year. __________________ Go Texans!

09-11-2006	#5
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	Dunta is just fine. He is playing as hard as he did his Rookie year, he just doesnt have as much help.

09-11-2006	#6
utahmark markbeth Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: utah Age: 43 Posts: 1,914 Rep Power: 5935	its hard for me to be to hard on the secondary with the protection mcnabb had.

09-11-2006	#8
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	Dunta played an excellent game. He was all over the place. It felt like every three tackles belonged to either Dunta or Demeco. That being said, we are going to be lit up if we can't rush the QB. The secondary, overall, is one of our weakest areas. Hopefully this next offseason (only four months away!) we can get an effective secondary through trades, FA, or picks.

09-11-2006	#16
chuckm Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Spring Age: 51 Posts: 1,896 Rep Power: 13	You can put Deion Sanders, Lester Hayes, Ronnie Lott, and Jake Scott back there but if the QB has all day to throw .......... __________________ Sabbatical: an extended period away from our daily routine to refresh our minds and spirits

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El Amigo Invisible All Pro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 571 Rep Power: 8	Why didn't we address this in the offseason?

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