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HOUSTON VS PHILADELPHIA PREVIEW
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A new season, a new start; something us Houston fans needed greatly. Ironically, the former SB losers need a fresh start after an injury-riddled 2005 season. Will this be the year Houston steps up to the plate and erases last year, or the year Philly returns to the throne of the NFC East? Maybe neither, maybe both, this game should give everyone a starch indicator.

Houston’s Running Game vs. Philly’s Run D: This is Houston’s main form of offense. If Houston can get their running game going, they can do some damage and control the game. However, with Philly’s tenacious defense, it won’t be easy. This is my main key to the game as this is the only way to keep Philly’s defense in check and honest. The thing about Philly’s D Line is that their not big (not 1 starter over 300 lbs), but more so quick and good at penetrating the O Line. Luckily, Houston’s O line is implementing the Zone Blocking Scheme (ZBS) which should help negate some of their defensive speed.

Houston’s Passing Game vs. Philly’s Pass D: This is where the problems could arise. Remember how I mentioned Philly’s defense as quick and tenacious? Take this in the form of a pass rush, throw in 4 pro bowl caliber Defensive Backs, and add in Jim Johnson’s blitz-crazy schematics and you’ve got what could spell trouble. Good news for us is that this isn’t 2005 and Houston has been running shorter routes that rely on AJ and Moulds doing what they can after the catch. The surprise element in this will be Owen Daniels, Houston’s rookie TE. What hurt us last year was the fact that Capers didn’t believe in TEs as receivers which will help Carr out under immense pressure.

Philly’s Rushing Game vs. Houston’s Run D: The theme of our D line on running plays will be strength with every single one of our D Linemen over 285 lbs, and for good reason. Every single starting O Linemen for Philly is over 320 lbs. While Philly isn’t much of a running team, Reid has vowed to run the ball more. The biggest question about this is Westbrook; he’s never carried more than 200 times in a season. However, that problem will re-arise later in the season, until then Houston’s biggest problem is containing Westbrook. As long as he doesn’t bounce outside where he can use his shiftiness, Houston can reduce the threat of his big play ability and hopefully stop him in the middle.

Philly’s Passing Game vs. Houston’s Pass D: Here’s where our defense needs to step up and show everyone that it’s changed for the good. On passing plays, it gets extremely fast with its choice of several former 3-4 OLBs, Mario, Weaver, Travis Johnson, and Seth Payne. Putting pressure on McNabb will be critical as our DBs are our weak spot on our D. If McNabb’s O Line can provide enough protection, expect our DBs to get picked apart. Dunta Robinson is the obvious leader of it, but there’s plenty of question marks everyone else. With plenty of receiving options for McSoup (only kidding Iggles), the lack of pressure will spell the end for Houston.


Position Battle
QB Advantage: PHILLY
RB Advantage: PUSH
WR Advantage: HOUSTON
TE Advantage: PHILLY
OL Advantage: PHILLY
DL Advantage: PHILLY
LB Advantage: PHILLY
CB Advantage: PHILLY
S Advantage: PHILLY
K/P Advantage: PHILLY


Key Factors To The Game
1) In my opinion, the team that can have the effective running game has a huge advantage. It’s not a knock against McNabb or Carr, but whoever can keep the other team’s defense honest, has the best advantage on offense for the simple fact that passing lanes will open up. If Houston or Philly can’t get their running game going, the other has the advantage and I expect that team to win.

2) Pass rush. It’s imperative that Houston gets pressure on McNabb so he doesn’t have time to pass. With all of his receiving threats, the more time he has to throw, the more time he has to beat you with his arm. It’s also huge that Houston stops Jim Johnson’s defense and the blitzes he loves to call. Only 2 players are starting from Houston’s horrid O Line, but a new system is in place that masks player’s weaknesses. Will it be enough or will it look like last year?

3) How fitting is it that the 3rd key to the game be about 3rd down? It’s the most important down in the game, but who converts more is the challenge. Last year, Philly was 29th in 3rd down conversions with a pitiful 32.7%. Not much better was Houston who was 26th in the league with a 34.2%. Whoever can string longer drives together will have the obvious advantage.

4) Philly this game is starting 0 rookies as expected. Houston on the other hand is starting 5 rookies out of a possible 6 currently on their 53 man roster. Those 5 are DE Mario Williams, MLB DeMeco Ryans, LT Charles Spencer, TE Owen Daniels, and RB Wali Lundy. On the positive side, Philly doesn’t know what to expect from the rookies. They could come out and just completely shine and surprise people. On the negative side however, rookies are rookies so you can expect some mistakes to be made. How the rookies play will be a huge theme not only this game, but all season long.
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Pretty nice write up.

I don't see how you can call TE a push though. THe Eagles have a top 10 TE in LJ Smith, and one of the best backups in Schobel.

I'd also like to point out that the Eagles DID IN FACT run the ball very well prior to 2004. TO was the main reason we got away from the run. We will go back to the 3 headed monster system we used in 03 this year. Westy doesn't have to get 25 carries, because we have guys like Buckhalter, Moats, and Perry backing him up. We can run all 4 of those guys, keep them all fresh, and wear down a defense with nearly 1700 pounds from OT to OT.
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Pretty nice write up.

I don't see how you can call TE a push though. THe Eagles have a top 10 TE in LJ Smith, and one of the best backups in Schobel.

I'd also like to point out that the Eagles DID IN FACT run the ball very well prior to 2004. TO was the main reason we got away from the run. We will go back to the 3 headed monster system we used in 03 this year. Westy doesn't have to get 25 carries, because we have guys like Buckhalter, Moats, and Perry backing him up. We can run all 4 of those guys, keep them all fresh, and wear down a defense with nearly 1700 pounds from OT to OT.
I regardless of how much kool-aid I drink picked the Eagles as slight favorites to win this game. Making myself stick to that is difficult. However, your focusing on the wrong side of the ball. I think the Texans O vs Eagles D is where the game will be decided.

Right now I don't see anything special in the Eagles rushing attack, but Westbrook is a very dangerous threat in the open field. I often compare Reggie Bush to him because I think they're a lot alike. The WRs are inexperienced, and may not be fully gelled with McNabb yet.

Oh as for the TE situation the Eagles do have the edge there, with the receiving aspect of L.J. Smith. However We have Owen Daniels (rookie with great hands, still yet to see if he can do the same in reg season). And two great blocking TEs.

On the other side of the ball we have a very formidable Eagles Defense against the biggest question mark of the season for the Texans. I will leave the dead horse alone to keep this thread into turning into something I'm tired of.
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nice effort Lork...I wouldn't call the TE a push either...this is advantage Eagles imo.

Weigert vs Kearse is problematic. I see a massive advantage for the Eagles here as Weigert doesn't really have the lateral movement to contain Javon. For some reason I'm not as worried about Spencer.

Westbrook vs any linebacker or Brown is advantage Eagles too. I expect Westbrook to light us up in space.

I think the Eagles will run effectively against our left side Sunday behind Andrews and Runyon. We will have two rookies and Orr over there. TJ and Mario look good in space running to the ball but they will be a liability when you run straight at them. Advantage Eagles

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Texans 34- Eagles 17.

Just wanted to get it on a thread somewhere, and I didn't see anyone else post it.

Congrates Fred Weary on the start. Hard work pays off. I'm pulling for you to hold it and play well this season.
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I regardless of how much kool-aid I drink picked the Eagles as slight favorites to win this game. Making myself stick to that is difficult. However, your focusing on the wrong side of the ball. I think the Texans O vs Eagles D is where the game will be decided.

Right now I don't see anything special in the Eagles rushing attack, but Westbrook is a very dangerous threat in the open field. I often compare Reggie Bush to him because I think they're a lot alike. The WRs are inexperienced, and may not be fully gelled with McNabb yet.

Oh as for the TE situation the Eagles do have the edge there, with the receiving aspect of L.J. Smith. However We have Owen Daniels (rookie with great hands, still yet to see if he can do the same in reg season). And two great blocking TEs.

On the other side of the ball we have a very formidable Eagles Defense against the biggest question mark of the season for the Texans. I will leave the dead horse alone to keep this thread into turning into something I'm tired of.
I agree with you on everything you said, except for the "nothing special in the run game". Andrews is probably the best run blocking RG in the NFL. Jackson is a monster at center, and if you lok at last year, our run game became very formidable once he entered the lineup. From center to RT we should be able to run at will. Plus I don't think most people recognize just how good of a back Correll Buckhalter is. I mean, the guy was supposed to be our starter before he got injured - not Westbrook.

The Bush-Westbrook comparison is a very good one. Same kind of skill set. Westbrook is a much better pass blocker, and runs better routes. Bush is the better natural athlete. I might give a slight edge to Westbrook in hands as well, just because he's proven that he can go over the middle from the slot position and hold onto the ball.

I have said many times that the Texans CAN have success against our defense, but 2 things have to happen. First, their OL needs to be decent and not get smoked by the Eagles Dline. Second, they need to run, a lot, but do so against our OLBs, and NOT the midle of our D.
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nice effort Lork...I wouldn't call the TE a push either...this is advantage Eagles imo.

Weigert vs Kearse is problematic. I see a massive advantage for the Eagles here as Weigert doesn't really have the lateral movement to contain Javon. For some reason I'm not as worried about Spencer.

Westbrook vs any linebacker or Brown is advantage Eagles too. I expect Westbrook to light us up in space.

I think the Eagles will run effectively against our left side Sunday behind Andrews and Runyon. We will have two rookies and Orr over there. TJ and Mario look good in space running to the ball but they will be a liability when you run straight at them. Advantage Eagles

28-20 Eagles
That's as realisti and unbiased a post as I have ever seen on a MB. Kudos to you.

I think what some Teans fans need to understand is that this year your throwing a lot of young guys to the fire. It's going to pay divdends next year, but it will hurt you this season.
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I regardless of how much kool-aid I drink picked the Eagles as slight favorites to win this game. Making myself stick to that is difficult. However, your focusing on the wrong side of the ball. I think the Texans O vs Eagles D is where the game will be decided.

Right now I don't see anything special in the Eagles rushing attack, but Westbrook is a very dangerous threat in the open field. I often compare Reggie Bush to him because I think they're a lot alike. The WRs are inexperienced, and may not be fully gelled with McNabb yet.

Oh as for the TE situation the Eagles do have the edge there, with the receiving aspect of L.J. Smith. However We have Owen Daniels (rookie with great hands, still yet to see if he can do the same in reg season). And two great blocking TEs.

On the other side of the ball we have a very formidable Eagles Defense against the biggest question mark of the season for the Texans. I will leave the dead horse alone to keep this thread into turning into something I'm tired of.
Are you counting Jeb Putzier as the other great blocking TE, or Joppru?

and as far as comparing Bush to Westbrook

Westbrook > Bush for one simply reason, Westy will run between the tackles and he will also try to run through people.

I don't know why so many people knock on Buckhalter. (My guess is his average madden ratings) When he's not shattered glass, the guy is the type of RB we wanted out of A. Smith. A pounder, but whats special about him is after he pounds it, he can turn on the speed, very dangerous combination.

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nice effort Lork...I wouldn't call the TE a push either...this is advantage Eagles imo.

Weigert vs Kearse is problematic. I see a massive advantage for the Eagles here as Weigert doesn't really have the lateral movement to contain Javon. For some reason I'm not as worried about Spencer.

Westbrook vs any linebacker or Brown is advantage Eagles too. I expect Westbrook to light us up in space.

I think the Eagles will run effectively against our left side Sunday behind Andrews and Runyon. We will have two rookies and Orr over there. TJ and Mario look good in space running to the ball but they will be a liability when you run straight at them. Advantage Eagles

28-20 Eagles
I thought Weaver was the LDE and Mario was the RDE

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I think unfortunately for us, even though I have said we win by a little bit, is the containment of McNabb and the kicking game. We have to keep Philly far enough away that the kicking game doesn't become a factor. McNabb hurts you when he has the ability to move around and buy time. Our DE's must contain and then pressure has to come up the middle while avoiding big running gains. A fifteen yard difference in the kicking game is a big one and can not be overlooked.
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nice effort Lork...I wouldn't call the TE a push either...this is advantage Eagles imo.
Typo on my part. I have a template for this to make it easy on myself as ill be doing this for the next 16 weeks or so, but its been changed.

In all reality tho, I do think it will be a game decided by 7 points or less. Its the 1st game of the season so anything can happen. Any given Sunday right?
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That's as realisti and unbiased a post as I have ever seen on a MB. Kudos to you.

I think what some Teans fans need to understand is that this year your throwing a lot of young guys to the fire. It's going to pay divdends next year, but it will hurt you this season.
Always count on Vinny for a good analytical [non-biased] take.

I agree with you about paying dividends in the future. You simply cannot expect five rookies starting their first game to play perfect, and the Eagles are a veteran team with an attitude this year. I think we'll put up a good fight, though, which is the main thing that I want to see from them. Fire and a desire to win is the foundation to build success upon.
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With even the most modest of pressure by our D, taking into account Philly's receiver corps limitations, their RB talent and McNabbs' historical patterns, I believe that McNabb will try to dink and dunk us to death before he ever resorts to airing things out too often.
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With even the most modest of pressure by our D, taking into account Philly's receiver corps limitations, their RB talent and McNabbs' historical patterns, I believe that McNabb will try to dink and dunk us to death before he ever resorts to airing things out too often.
What limitations do we have at WR? We have two really good young, explosive guys in Brown and Stallworth. We've got one of the most explosive recieving TEs in the NFL. We've got two great looking rookies, and a Super Bowl team proven 3rd WR.

At least point to something. Do you think our WRs are slow? Do you think they lack athleticism? Size? Or do you watch NFL Prime Time on ESPN?

And what is wrong with our RB talent? We have a pro-bowler in Westbrook who gets 4.5-5 yards a carry. And he's not een our best pure runner, Buckhalter is. But I'm pretty sure you don't know a thing about him, since no one with a clue would question his talent. Hell, our 3rd back averaged 5 yards a carry last year as a rookie starter at the end of the season.

With our OL, McNabb will have all the time in the world to pass.
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Oh, and how in the heck s RB a push?

We have a pro-bowler. The Texans have a 6th round rookie and Ron Dayne.

Push? Sorry, I don't think so.
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Oh, and how in the heck s RB a push?

We have a pro-bowler. The Texans have a 6th round rookie and Ron Dayne.

Push? Sorry, I don't think so.
Westbrook a pro bowler? The dude has never had more than 850 yards rushing in his career. Yes, he gets alot of receptions, but if you add up both rushing and receiving, 12 RBs had more rushing yards alone last year. He's good, but dont tout him as a pro bowler. Lundy and Morency will get it done by committee with some help from Dayne. Buckhalter struggles staying healthy, and Mahe is strictly a return guy (hes doubtful this week anyways). Houston's new Zone Blocking Scheme makes RBs look better and masks weaknesses.
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Westbrook a pro bowler? The dude has never had more than 850 yards rushing in his career. Yes, he gets alot of receptions, but if you add up both rushing and receiving, 12 RBs had more rushing yards alone last year. He's good, but dont tout him as a pro bowler. Lundy and Morency will get it done by committee with some help from Dayne. Buckhalter struggles staying healthy, and Mahe is strictly a return guy (hes doubtful this week anyways). Houston's new Zone Blocking Scheme makes RBs look better and masks weaknesses.
1) He is a pro-bowler.

2) Since he became a full time starter, he has only ever played 13 or fewer regular season games. In 2004 because we sat all of our starters for 2 games at the end of the season, and in 2005 because he was hurt. Plus he doesn't get nearly the number of carries as most people that have more yards.

3) Why is it a minus that Westy catches a lot of passes at 10 yards a pop? It's funny - Marshall Faulk got praised for it. RReggie Bush gets praised for it. But yet somehow it's bad that Westbrook does it? Give me a freaking break.

4) If you wouldn't trade any RB you are suiting up this sunday for Westbrook, you are beyond a stupid homer - you would enter the level of mentally retarded and thus shoud not even be attempting to argue football. You better believe that Kubiac would JUMP at the chance to replace the garbage you have back there with Westbrook.

5) Buckhalter is better then any RB you have on your team as well.

6) Moats is better then any RB on the Texans.

7) We are talking about RUNNING BACKS, NOT THE OFFENSIVE LINE. Thats why their is a whole other catagory for OL, which we win as well FYI.

Bottom line:

Westbrook is FAR AND AWAY better then anyone on the Texans this sunday, there for, this is not a "push" but a clear advantage for the Eagles.
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I am still waiting from R bush and his 10 yards a pop
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4) If you wouldn't trade any RB you are suiting up this sunday for Westbrook, you are beyond a stupid homer - you would enter the level of mentally retarded and thus shoud not even be attempting to argue football. You better believe that Kubiac would JUMP at the chance to replace the garbage you have back there with Westbrook.
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So you talked to Kubiak on that one? He didn't jump at Bush why would he jump at Westbrook?
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So you talked to Kubiak on that one? He didn't jump at Bush why would he jump at Westbrook?
You don't think he would trade Dayne for Reggie Bush? Or Lundy for Bush? Or Morency for Bush? Seriously

Taking a RB with the first overall pick and trading a bunch of nobodys for the most talented RB prospect since Marshall Faulk are two different things.

Kubiak would trade any RB we'll see tomorow for Westbrook in a nanosecond. It wouldn't even be a consideration on his part. He'd scream yes and hope to God the offer wasn't recinded.

The fact that I even have to tell you this is sad and pathetic.
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You don't think he would trade Dayne for Reggie Bush? Or Lundy for Bush? Or Morency for Bush? Seriously

Taking a RB with the first overall pick and trading a bunch of nobodys for the most talented RB prospect since Marshall Faulk are two different things.

Kubiak would trade any RB we'll see tomorow for Westbrook in a nanosecond. It wouldn't even be a consideration on his part. He'd scream yes and hope to God the offer wasn't recinded.

The fact that I even have to tell you this is sad and pathetic.

Not if he did not fit our running style now i am not saying westbrook does not becuase i have not really seen him that much cuase i don't get many philly games where I live or it's when the Texans or playing.

But anyways if the RB does not fit his system he would not want him.
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