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texflex513 · 09-02-2006

Charles Spencer and Owen Daniels are going to be our starters along with Wali Lundy on Sept 1Oth im assuming spencer will play left tackle...How do you guys think these 3 will do ?

El Tejano · 09-02-2006

I am a little shaky about the start of the season with a rookie LT going against the Eagles Dline in week one and then Dwight Freeney in week two.

As for the other two, I think they will do fine and either they will have a good game or an unnoticed game.

Sportsfan · 09-02-2006

Don't forget Demeco and Mario, thats 5 rookies starting if i'm counting them all. Says a lot about our draft and what Kubiak thinks of them. If all of these guys are ballers, we'll have a hell of a football team for years to come.

Trapped · 09-02-2006

gyea, 5 rookie starters. that's alot. i guess we have the most rookie starters in the nfl starting week 1.

thunderkyss · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Sportsfan

Don't forget Demeco and Mario, thats 5 rookies starting if i'm counting them all. Says a lot about our draft and what Kubiak thinks of them. If all of these guys are ballers, we'll have a hell of a football team for years to come.

Hopefully it is more indicative of our Rookies excelling at their respective postions, and not a statement against our talent from last year(which wouldn't be saying much)

RiotCommander · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Hopefully it is more indicative of our Rookies excelling at their respective postions, and not a statement against our talent from last year(which wouldn't be saying much)

I was thinking the same thing.

PoolMaster21 · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Sportsfan

Don't forget Demeco and Mario, thats 5 rookies starting if i'm counting them all. Says a lot about our draft and what Kubiak thinks of them. If all of these guys are ballers, we'll have a hell of a football team for years to come.

Right on Sportsfan! Let 'em get started with a little OJT!!!

TexanExile · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Sportsfan

Says a lot about our draft and what Kubiak thinks of them.

Yes it does, and it says a lot about last year's roster, too. Around the league there seem to be quite a few ex-Texans getting cut without getting re-signed anywhere. Still waiting for those re-signings of Jerry DeLoach and Todd Wade, for instance. Anyone? Anyone? Tony Banks, maybe? Marcellus Rivers?

(Don't let the door hit ya, Charley.)

I'm also optimistic about this young roster--especially the defensive rookie starters--but I'm also prepared to shrug my shoulders at a slow (possibly 1-3) start. It could very well happen and I don't think it's an indication that the new era is doomed. This team's destined for late-season wins, I think, so I hope that these young guys get a fair shot from the fans during the first half of the season.

Brandon420tx · 09-02-2006

In 2004 we had 4 starters on defense (Not sure how many we had on offense ... if any) look how that turned out.

Texans86 · 09-02-2006

Just think, that's six draft picks that will be starting (including the traded 5th for Moulds). That's not a bad draft at all.

TK_Gamer · 09-02-2006

well spencer's biggest problem early on is not gonna be giving up the sack so much as holding calls, he has bad(rookie) footwork and so he gets out of position at times and his nature does not allow him to get beat, so he grabs on. depending on the timing, this could end up a huge drive killer. I hope he works on his footwork everyday.

he's the only rookie starter that scares me some.

V Man · 09-02-2006

It doesn't suprise me, this is Kubes team so he is going to go with his players.

Also it shows how bad the talent the last coaching staff had accumulated (also it would only be four if DD wasn't hurt).

CoachJim · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by TexanExile

...Around the league there seem to be quite a few ex-Texans getting cut without getting re-signed anywhere.

Billy Miller & Jay Foreman were cut today by the Aints too. Thank me for makin your point.

texflex513 · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by CoachJim

Billy Miller & Jay Foreman were cut today by the Aints too. Thank me for makin your point.

B miller was one of my favorites.... i feel bad he did not make the caints roster.

CoachJim · 09-02-2006

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Originally Posted by texflex513

... the caints roster.

I don't care who ya are, thats funny ... never heard "Caints" before.

TexansBull · 09-03-2006

5 starting rookies...it almost like an expansion team...

Does starting a rookie at LT give David Carr more time to prove himself?

nunusguy · 09-03-2006

I think its great the Texans are starting all of these rookies. As HC Kubiak, GM
Smith, and others have said these guys will make rookie mistakes, and some
of those mistakes may cost us football games. So be it, because IMO we need to be in long-term mode again, which is to say only the most foolish
optimists would think we have a chance for the playoffs this year. That will take a couple of seasons or so.

brewhaus · 09-03-2006

Spencer plays like a bull. He looked like a "smash mouth" player to me.
I think Lundy is the real deal...time will tell if that is true or not. Daniels won't have to do much to show better than Bruener.

CloakNNNdagger · 09-03-2006

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Originally Posted by brewhaus

Spencer plays like a bull. He looked like a "smash mouth" player to me.
I think Lundy is the real deal...time will tell if that is true or not. Daniels won't have to do much to show better than Bruener.

I doubt seriously that he will ever replace the brute blocking that Bruener had afforded us.

TK_Gamer · 09-03-2006

I agree CND, bruener was basicly a converted tackle with some agility. daniels is more like a converted reciever. a big one, but without the strength and blocking. bruener was one of, if not , the best blocking tight end in football. we were very fortunate to have him

09-02-2006	#1
texflex513 All Pro Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cincinnati, OH Age: 37 Posts: 615 Rep Power: 8	Rookie Starters Charles Spencer and Owen Daniels are going to be our starters along with Wali Lundy on Sept 1Oth im assuming spencer will play left tackle...How do you guys think these 3 will do ?

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Trapped Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 28 Posts: 229 Rep Power: 9	gyea, 5 rookie starters. that's alot. i guess we have the most rookie starters in the nfl starting week 1. __________________ Most users ever online was 1,493, 04-28-2006 at 09:04 PM

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Brandon420tx Flounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 25 Posts: 3,874 Rep Power: 4498	In 2004 we had 4 starters on defense (Not sure how many we had on offense ... if any) look how that turned out. __________________ That Dolphin is the bravest thing I ever saw

09-02-2006	#10
Texans86 All Pro Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Waco, Texas Age: 27 Posts: 927 Rep Power: 8	Just think, that's six draft picks that will be starting (including the traded 5th for Moulds). That's not a bad draft at all. __________________ "Only the Sith deal in absolutes." ---Wait, isn't that an absolute?

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TK_Gamer Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Age: 50 Posts: 1,029 Rep Power: 12	well spencer's biggest problem early on is not gonna be giving up the sack so much as holding calls, he has bad(rookie) footwork and so he gets out of position at times and his nature does not allow him to get beat, so he grabs on. depending on the timing, this could end up a huge drive killer. I hope he works on his footwork everyday. he's the only rookie starter that scares me some. __________________ "Yeah, and Barry Sanders, Thurman Thomas, and Gale Sayers were undersized too...."

09-02-2006	#2
El Tejano Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,748 Rep Power: 6842	I am a little shaky about the start of the season with a rookie LT going against the Eagles Dline in week one and then Dwight Freeney in week two. As for the other two, I think they will do fine and either they will have a good game or an unnoticed game.

09-02-2006	#3
Sportsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 979 Posts: 586 Rep Power: 9	Don't forget Demeco and Mario, thats 5 rookies starting if i'm counting them all. Says a lot about our draft and what Kubiak thinks of them. If all of these guys are ballers, we'll have a hell of a football team for years to come.

09-02-2006	#12
V Man Pumpkinhead Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alamo City Age: 45 Posts: 2,586 Rep Power: 18	It doesn't suprise me, this is Kubes team so he is going to go with his players. Also it shows how bad the talent the last coaching staff had accumulated (also it would only be four if DD wasn't hurt). __________________ sig by michaelm

09-03-2006	#16
TexansBull Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,050 Rep Power: 5529	5 starting rookies...it almost like an expansion team... Does starting a rookie at LT give David Carr more time to prove himself?

09-03-2006	#17
nunusguy Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston Posts: 8,991 Rep Power: 184	I think its great the Texans are starting all of these rookies. As HC Kubiak, GM Smith, and others have said these guys will make rookie mistakes, and some of those mistakes may cost us football games. So be it, because IMO we need to be in long-term mode again, which is to say only the most foolish optimists would think we have a chance for the playoffs this year. That will take a couple of seasons or so.

09-03-2006	#18
brewhaus All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 769 Rep Power: 7	Spencer plays like a bull. He looked like a "smash mouth" player to me. I think Lundy is the real deal...time will tell if that is true or not. Daniels won't have to do much to show better than Bruener.

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