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Old 08-31-2006   #1
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* Look for the Texans to keep 4 tight ends. Owen Daniels has looked very good so far and has earned playing time and we all know that free agent Jeb Putzier will be on the field quite a bit. Bennie Joppru has shown good hands and has stayed healthy and the Texans are using him as a TE and FB so that will allow them to keep Joppru rather than a second fullback. One might think Mark Bruener would be on the bubble but NFL teams love finding TEs who can run block and since there aren't many around, he'll probably stay with the Texans.

* Mario Williams has shown that he has explosiveness and power to push guards and tackles around but he isn't really using it very effectively right now. As our John Harris noted before the draft, he has a tendency to stay engaged with offensive linemen and read situations rather than shedding the linemen and getting after whoever has the ball. I think Williams will be a work in progress that make take a good 2 to 3 years but if it clicks with him, he will dominate. However, he's a long way from dominating right now. Ultimately, I would bet that he'll end up being a full time defensive tackle.

* David Carr is scaring me. I know he has the tools to be a good NFL QB but I just don't see Carr display the mindset of a good NFL QB. Carr is clearly rushing to get rid of the ball and he just doesn't do a great job of buying himself time by moving around in the pocket while keeping his eyes on his WRs. When Carr is sensing pressure, he has a tendency to dump down to RBs/FBs or just take off. If Carr is going to make in the NFL, he's going to have to develop more poise and he has to start to look down the field more than he has over the last year and a half.

* Charles Spencer will be a Pro Bowl tackle at some point in his career. Mark my words. I really like the improved play of the line, but most of all I'm excited about Spencer's play. In run blocking situations, Spencer's power is obvious as he "washes down" pretty much any defender in his path in this zone scheme. In pass protection, he's shown that a bull rush simply won't cut it. Once Spencer gets his hands on people, they are in grave danger. The true test for Spencer is going to be when he faces the best edge pass rushers who also have inside spin moves. That will be a great test.

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--The Green Bay Packers have rookies Tony Moll (5th round) and Jason Spitz (2nd round) starting at guard right now.
--The Dallas Cowboys are considering rookie FS Pat Watkins (5th round) as their starter. Bill Parcells likes what he sees and having the #1 and #2 free safeties ahead of you shot (Keith David) and suspended (Marcus Coleman) certainly doesn't hurt.
-- DeAngelo Williams (1st round), rookie RB for the Panthers, is looking like he could push DeShaun Foster for playing time this year. Williams returned a kickoff 98 yards for a TD and is polished enough as a RB to get carries right away.
-- The Texans are likely to start Mario Williams (1st), DeMeco Ryans (2nd), Charles Spencer (3rd) RB Wali Lundy (5th) when the season opens and TE Owen Daniels (4th) and could also see significant playing time.
-- The Detroit Lions named LB Ernie Sims (1st) the starting weakside linebacker (WLB) and rookie Daniel Bullocks (2nd) started last game at safety for the Lions.
-- The QB class of 2006 looks like it could be special. Vince Young has been okay although he doesn't have a TD and he has thrown one interception. Still, I already expected it to take longer for VY to adapt to the NFL style of QB'ing. I think he'll be fine in time. Jay Cutler and Matt Leinart fell into much better situations than Young and they are more "NFL-ready" and it shows. Both have looked good in their preseason action and I wouldn't be shocked to see all three QBs starting by next year.
-- One of my sleepers that I told you about here in the newsletter before the draft was Jerious Norwood from Miss. State. Norwood was selected in the 3rd round by Atlanta and in the preseason, Norwood has looked terrific. So good, in fact, that the Falcons felt comfortable with trading TJ Duckett and going with Norwood as the backup for Warrick Dunn. Norwood's breakaway speed and explosion makes him one of the few break-away backs in the game.
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--The Dallas Cowboys are considering rookie FS Pat Watkins (5th round) as their starter. Bill Parcells likes what he sees and having the #1 and #2 free safeties ahead of you shot (Keith David) and suspended (Marcus Coleman) certainly doesn't hurt.
I had to laugh at the wording of the last sentence.
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Good read, the only thing I disagree with is the Jerius Norwood comments, as a matter of fact I will be willing to say that the one thing the falcons were A1 at (DVD running attack) will be the one thing that keeps them out of the playoffs.
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I agree with Zierlein on his opinion about Mario ultimately becomes a DT and
not DE in this league.
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I wouldn't mind Mario as a DT. There are very few dominant DTs in the league and having one that is always taking on two offensive linemen, collapsing the pocket, disrupting plays, batting down balls and getting in the backfield is worth more than 10 or 12 sacks per season as an DE.
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So basically, this guy is saying that Mario will be a 2-3 year project? Great No. 1 overall pick...especially when (a) Davis' knee is shot, and (b) Carr looks like a high school freshman at QB. If we were going to take a project as the No. 1 overall pick, we should have taken Vince Young. Otherwise we should have taken Reggie Bush. Aside from that, we should have traded down to take Mario, because he still would have been available.
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Good read, the only thing I disagree with is the Jerius Norwood comments, as a matter of fact I will be willing to say that the one thing the falcons were A1 at (DVD running attack) will be the one thing that keeps them out of the playoffs.
Have you seen Norwood play ? He brings a whole lot more to the table than Duckett.....
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So basically, this guy is saying that Mario will be a 2-3 year project? Great No. 1 overall pick...especially when (a) Davis' knee is shot, and (b) Carr looks like a high school freshman at QB. If we were going to take a project as the No. 1 overall pick, we should have taken Vince Young. Otherwise we should have taken Reggie Bush. Aside from that, we should have traded down to take Mario, because he still would have been available.
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My point is, if this guy is right, then we totally botched the No. 1 pick. Heck, most people already think we did that. If what he says is true about Mario being a project until 2008 or 2009, then it just verifies what most people think anyway.

The staff knew Davis was hurt, as well as Mathis. Yet they pass on Bush.

The staff could have taken Vince Young as a 1-2 year project to replace Carr, who hasn't exactly looked like a No. 1 overall pick in his four years. Kubiak said he could "fix" the Carr...now, there's a potential QB controversy with Sage Rosenfels?

Instead, they take a 2-3 year project at a position that they have already addressed in free agency (Weaver) and in re-fitting the defense to fit the talent of the squad (4-3 from 3-4).

Great thinking. It defies logic and will be questioned this year - A LOT - if Mario looks totally average.

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My point is, if this guy is right, then we totally botched the No. 1 pick. Heck, most people already think we did that. If what he says is true about Mario being a project until 2008 or 2009, then it just verifies what most people think anyway.
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Agree on the carr comments and hope he's wrong about Mario. Would be sad to think we wasted a pick like that on a project that could end up at tackle.
How many tackles can run and jump like that man? If it looks, smells and acts like and end.... but it's on him. He does need to destroy the learning curve and get busy soooner than later
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I disagree with the full-time DT business. Supposedly this is just preseason experimentation, and perhaps he can be effective there during short-yardage situations, but IMO Mario belongs at DE and I'm sure we'll see him there alot more during the regular season.
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I disagree with the full-time DT business. Supposedly this is just preseason experimentation, and perhaps he can be effective there during short-yardage situations, but IMO Mario belongs at DE and I'm sure we'll see him there alot more during the regular season.
I agree. I don't think they are going to move him to full time DT...I like him as a DE, going to DT on passing downs...IMO, having him as a full time DT doesn't properly utilize his talents...
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Mario Williams has shown that he has explosiveness and power to push guards and tackles around but he isn't really using it very effectively right now...Ultimately, I would bet that he'll end up being a full time defensive tackle.
Earlier this year, Zierlein described Mario as a bigger version of Jevon Kearse. Now, Williams is a DT. Can't wait to hear Lance's opinion of Mario in a couple of months, because I'm certain it will have changed (again) by then.
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My point is, if this guy is right, then we totally botched the No. 1 pick. Heck, most people already think we did that. If what he says is true about Mario being a project until 2008 or 2009, then it just verifies what most people think anyway.

The staff knew Davis was hurt, as well as Mathis. Yet they pass on Bush.

The staff could have taken Vince Young as a 1-2 year project to replace Carr, who hasn't exactly looked like a No. 1 overall pick in his four years. Kubiak said he could "fix" the Carr...now, there's a potential QB controversy with Sage Rosenfels?

Instead, they take a 2-3 year project at a position that they have already addressed in free agency (Weaver) and in re-fitting the defense to fit the talent of the squad (4-3 from 3-4).

Great thinking. It defies logic and will be questioned this year - A LOT - if Mario looks totally average.
Quick , agile 300lb men are worth their weght in gold ... it really does'nt matter where you put him as long as he disrupts . Why take Vince when you could get Cutler ?
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Earlier this year, Zierlein described Mario as a bigger version of Jevon Kearse. Now, Williams is a DT. Can't wait to hear Lance's opinion of Mario in a couple of months, because I'm certain it will have changed (again) by then.
Maybe Free Safety?
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Earlier this year, Zierlein described Mario as a bigger version of Jevon Kearse. Now, Williams is a DT. Can't wait to hear Lance's opinion of Mario in a couple of months, because I'm certain it will have changed (again) by then.
Lance is living proof that talking about something all of the time has no bearing on whether or not you actually understand it.

People often discount what fans know because well, they're just fans. They aren't involved in it and they don't necessarily have any special innate understanding of it because they enjoy watching it. The same thing really could (and should) be said about sports writers and clowns like this on radio shows. They aren't really involved in it anymore than we are. They don't understand much more (if anything more) than we do.
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So basically, this guy is saying that Mario will be a 2-3 year project? Great No. 1 overall pick...especially when (a) Davis' knee is shot, and (b) Carr looks like a high school freshman at QB. If we were going to take a project as the No. 1 overall pick, we should have taken Vince Young. Otherwise we should have taken Reggie Bush. Aside from that, we should have traded down to take Mario, because he still would have been available.


Have you been with your ears plugged.

Just what has this particular person ever written/said that you assign him so much credibility?

Is it the fact that you agree with him, so he must be right?..

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I agree. I don't think they are going to move him to full time DT...I like him as a DE, going to DT on passing downs...IMO, having him as a full time DT doesn't properly utilize his talents...
Bingo, that is about exactly what came to my mind as a read the piece. Thanks for posting my thoughts, xtruroyaltyx.
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My point is, if this guy is right, then we totally botched the No. 1 pick. Heck, most people already think we did that. If what he says is true about Mario being a project until 2008 or 2009, then it just verifies what most people think anyway.

The staff knew Davis was hurt, as well as Mathis. Yet they pass on Bush.

The staff could have taken Vince Young as a 1-2 year project to replace Carr, who hasn't exactly looked like a No. 1 overall pick in his four years. Kubiak said he could "fix" the Carr...now, there's a potential QB controversy with Sage Rosenfels?

Instead, they take a 2-3 year project at a position that they have already addressed in free agency (Weaver) and in re-fitting the defense to fit the talent of the squad (4-3 from 3-4).

Great thinking. It defies logic and will be questioned this year - A LOT - if Mario looks totally average.
Even if this guy is right and Mario is a stronger DT than DE, how is this a bad thing...As of right now our DT's are old, other than TJ. Weaver is, and was acquired to be, a DE...a run-stuffing DE. He doesn't have the bulk to play DT, and this was shown this preseason, which is why the coaching staff moved him back to DE.

Also, Kubiac understands that a solid defense is just as important if not more important than addressing offensive areas. By saying we screwed up by not picking Bush is ridiculous...especially if Lundy continues to play the way he has.

Another poster brought a great point, why should we have selected VY when we could have dropped out of the top 10 to select Cutler(a QB with an actual arm and potential upside). The problem was we couldn't move down 1-3 spots...we would have had to move atleast 7-10 spots to even get a trade.
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