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Old 08-28-2006   #1
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Default Offense........it is starting to click.

I tell you what, if this was a complete game, we win this sucker. Our Offense was picking up speed and was clicking starting right before the half and it carried on into the 3rd..............Our Defense was salty all night.

Carr looked very good and was throwing the ball with accuracy and with smart possition of the football.You have to remeber that this is a new system for this guy and the team, he looked a little unsure the last 2 games, BUT last night it looked like it started to fire and started to click in Carr.AND this was against Denvers 1st D . At the beginning when they were doing bad, the sideline lady ask kubiak about the start of the football game and he said that, "We did not give him good calls to work with". And that ball had some hot sauce on it last night. Going trough his progressions nicely as well.

Vernond Morency looked awsome, would you guys agree? Did you see the Reggie Bushness come out when he was heading toward the sideline? But really I thought he played well.

Oline played well accept for one wiegert play , but all together they played as a group.Spencer is our new starting LT, the guy is a beast and we need to get his name out there.

Owen Daniels looked good catching that ball from Carr rolling out. And thank you for jumping on the ball Owen.

E-Weeeeeez-E-Eric Moulds..........Love how this guy plays and is taking to his roll without complaining. Did very well..............EXCEPT on the deep ball, did it look like he started off the ball for about 6 yards jogging? It did to me, and just like Starling Sharpe said "You will never know how well that ball was thrown, cause it looked like Moulds lost a step."

Defense did a great job a great job considering who we were playing and how tough there Offense was and is.

All around rest all our starters next week, cause we got it clicking down here and I am pumped about our season, I think we are going to be a surprise, a big surprise this year.
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I tell you what, if this was a complete game, we win this sucker. Our Offense was picking up speed and was clicking starting right before the half and it carried on into the 3rd..............Our Defense was salty all night.

Carr looked very good and was throwing the ball with accuracy and with smart possition of the football.You have to remeber that this is a new system for this guy and the team, he looked a little unsure the last 2 games, BUT last night it looked like it started to fire and started to click in Carr.AND this was against Denvers 1st D . At the beginning when they were doing bad, the sideline lady ask kubiak about the start of the football game and he said that, "We did not give him good calls to work with". And that ball had some hot sauce on it last night. Going trough his progressions nicely as well.

Vernond Morency looked awsome, would you guys agree? Did you see the Reggie Bushness come out when he was heading toward the sideline? But really I thought he played well.

Oline played well accept for one wiegert play , but all together they played as a group.Spencer is our new starting LT, the guy is a beast and we need to get his name out there.

Owen Daniels looked good catching that ball from Carr rolling out. And thank you for jumping on the ball Owen.

E-Weeeeeez-E-Eric Moulds..........Love how this guy plays and is taking to his roll without complaining. Did very well..............EXCEPT on the deep ball, did it look like he started off the ball for about 6 yards jogging? It did to me, and just like Starling Sharpe said "You will never know how well that ball was thrown, cause it looked like Moulds lost a step."

Defense did a great job a great job considering who we were playing and how tough there Offense was and is.

All around rest all our starters next week, cause we got it clicking down here and I am pumped about our season, I think we are going to be a surprise, a big surprise this year.
Sorry, I must have been watching a totally different game or you must have been watching one of the "other camera angles". I saw nothing Bushesque in Morency, though I don't think Bush is all he's cracked up to be. The only resemblance on the play you speak of was that he should have hit a hole and went North & South..not side to side. I didn't see much or any zone blocking and "one cut and go" running attacks. Moulds is a solid # 2 who seems to have lost a step but he has good hands and YAC and I feel what he contributes in leaderships & experience as well as what he does on the field will prove to be invaluable. Carr only looked sharp at the end against the 2nd team defense IIRC. Yes, they started to gel but I think it would have been too little too late in a real game. We need to improve in a lot of areas and that's what this game was for. I am still optomistic about this year but I didn't get your flavor of koolaid at the supermarket....they must have been sold out.
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I will have to say that the offense again started slow and was clearly picking up some steam. That has been opposite of our M.O. in recent past...and I can live with that. It's always better to be solid the whole game but if you have to pick a half to have your stuff together it would be the 2nd.

My one big complaint about the defense was the play of the D-tackles. Several mental mistakes that need to be cleaned up. Mario consistently drew double teams or chips which, again, is fine with me. I thought that Weaver was solid and Jason Babin off the bench was bringing some heat as a pass rusher.

Overall I thought that Lundy and Morency were very solid and I am very impressed with Ryans and Owen Daniels. I have to admit that the crop of draft picks this year definetly seem to be shaping up. I think it will be a tough year but I suspect we will continue to see signs of a bright future.
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Our offense seemed impotent last night. The desire may have been there, but they seemed to lack finishing ability.

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I tell you what, if this was a complete game, we win this sucker. Our Offense was picking up speed and was clicking starting right before the half and it carried on into the 3rd..............Our Defense was salty all night.

Carr looked very good and was throwing the ball with accuracy and with smart possition of the football.You have to remeber that this is a new system for this guy and the team, he looked a little unsure the last 2 games, BUT last night it looked like it started to fire and started to click in Carr.AND this was against Denvers 1st D . At the beginning when they were doing bad, the sideline lady ask kubiak about the start of the football game and he said that, "We did not give him good calls to work with". And that ball had some hot sauce on it last night. Going trough his progressions nicely as well.

Vernond Morency looked awsome, would you guys agree? Did you see the Reggie Bushness come out when he was heading toward the sideline? But really I thought he played well.

Oline played well accept for one wiegert play , but all together they played as a group.Spencer is our new starting LT, the guy is a beast and we need to get his name out there.

Owen Daniels looked good catching that ball from Carr rolling out. And thank you for jumping on the ball Owen.

E-Weeeeeez-E-Eric Moulds..........Love how this guy plays and is taking to his roll without complaining. Did very well..............EXCEPT on the deep ball, did it look like he started off the ball for about 6 yards jogging? It did to me, and just like Starling Sharpe said "You will never know how well that ball was thrown, cause it looked like Moulds lost a step."

Defense did a great job a great job considering who we were playing and how tough there Offense was and is.

All around rest all our starters next week, cause we got it clicking down here and I am pumped about our season, I think we are going to be a surprise, a big surprise this year.
Thier offense was clicking too. Offensively, IMO, we were average at best against thier 1st D. IIRC, I don't think one ball was thrown to a WR while thier 1st D was in. They were all drops to the RB. We have to improve offensivly. I think our D did an excellent job considering the field position the offense gave the Broncs. I think we've improved leaps and bounds compared to last year. With that being said, there's plenty to work on.
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I think the offense has way to go. Carr did ok.

After the game, I started think that if AJ doesn't start getting the ball in a serious manner, I don't know how we will be able to keep him. I know we can franchise him, but that is like a last resort and causes all sorts of problems. Kubiak, has to get Carr cranking a little bit more to give AJ the catches he needs. Otherwise, I think he will be looking to split after next year.

I guess it was Sterling Sharpe doing the commentary on the NFL Network during the game, and he said something I have been saying for the last month. Sharpe was going through the Texans schedule and how tough it is. Sharpe said if the Texans don't beat the Eagles, they may not get a W until Thanksgiving. I think he was exaggerating a bit but was making a good point. Those first six games are killers and they have to start off strong with a W against the Eagles. Otherwise, they will more than likely start in a very big hole when they start on the easy stretch of their schedule with game 7.

From what I have seen so far, don't look for the offense to put up amazing numbers and points at the early part of the season.

The Eagles game really concerns because they need that game because of the next five they could easily lose.

Either win a nail bitter or the defense just dominates with turnovers that returned for touchdowns in a route, my prediction for the Eagles game.
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IIRC, I don't think one ball was thrown to a WR while thier 1st D was in.
2nd Qtr
1-10-HOU47 (2:07) D.Carr pass short middle to A.Johnson to DEN 47 for 6 yards (Da.Williams).
2-8-DEN40 (1:22) D.Carr pass incomplete deep left to E.Moulds.
3-8-DEN40 (1:13) D.Carr pass short middle to K.Walter to DEN 35 for 5 yards (DJ.Williams).
4-3-DEN35 (1:01) D.Carr pass short middle to A.Johnson to DEN 30 for 5 yards (Da.Williams, I.Gold).

3rd Qtr--still 1st team D
1-10-HOU20 (15:00) D.Carr pass short right to A.Johnson ran ob at HST 34 for 14 yards.
2-6-DEN47 (12:48) D.Carr pass incomplete short right to E.Moulds.
3-6-DEN47 (12:41) D.Carr pass incomplete deep left to A.Johnson (Da.Williams).
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Funny.....but I have people from all over the country emailing me and telling me Carr looked awful last night...I tell them hell, he looked better last night than I'm used too. The only people who tell me Carr looks like a legit big time QB are our homers, and people who never get to see him and still think his mega contract means he is good.
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Second verse same as the first. Carr starting slow and picking up is not somehting new. In fact, it is the rule. But the unfortunate part of the story is that the 4th quarter is worse than the 1st quarter.

These are DC's 2005 situational splits, scroll to the Quarter breakdown:
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpag...68/splits/2005

We have four years of data. We have four years of obeservations. Carr has been one thing and that is consistent.
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1-10-HOU47 (2:07) D.Carr pass short middle to A.Johnson to DEN 47 for 6 yards (Da.Williams).
2-8-DEN40 (1:22) D.Carr pass incomplete deep left to E.Moulds.
3-8-DEN40 (1:13) D.Carr pass short middle to K.Walter to DEN 35 for 5 yards (DJ.Williams).
4-3-DEN35 (1:01) D.Carr pass short middle to A.Johnson to DEN 30 for 5 yards (Da.Williams, I.Gold).

3rd Qtr--still 1st team D
1-10-HOU20 (15:00) D.Carr pass short right to A.Johnson ran ob at HST 34 for 14 yards.
2-6-DEN47 (12:48) D.Carr pass incomplete short right to E.Moulds.
3-6-DEN47 (12:41) D.Carr pass incomplete deep left to A.Johnson (Da.Williams).
Not that it matters but I think thier 2nd teamers slowly started coming in late 2nd quarter and into the third. Either way, the offense needs improvement.

Crowd noise appeared to be a factor in a false start penalty against the Texans, who drove into the red zone against the Broncos second-team defense. The fourth-down penalty backed the Texans up enough to require a field goal, which Brown made. Denver held a 10-6 lead.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.ph...contentID=5812
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Second verse same as the first. Carr starting slow and picking up is not somehting new. In fact, it is the rule. But the unfortunate part of the story is that the 4th quarter is worse than the 1st quarter.

These are DC's 2005 situational splits, scroll to the Quarter breakdown:
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpag...68/splits/2005

We have four years of data. We have four years of obeservations. Carr has been one thing and that is consistent.
Here is Carr on 3rd down this preseason. He has passed 10 times and converted ZERO 3rd downs into 1st downs.

3-5-HOU40 (9:54) D.Carr pass short middle to E.Moulds to HST 44 for 4 yards (D.Johnson, P.Surtain).
3-23-HOU32 (13:48) D.Carr pass short left to W.Lundy to HST 45 for 13 yards (W.Witherspoon).
3-10-HOU29 (9:37) D.Carr pass incomplete short right to A.Johnson.
3-11-STL19 (3:24) D.Carr sacked at SL 28 for -9 yards (C.Chavous). FUMBLES (C.Chavous), touched at SL 28, RECOVERED by SL-C.Chavous at SL 30. C.Chavous to SL 41 for 11 yards (F.Weary). Play Challenged by HST and REVERSED. D.Carr pass incomplete short left to A.Johnson [C.Chavous].
3-7-HOU42 (13:52) D.Carr pass incomplete short right to A.Johnson.
3-7-HOU35 (4:44) D.Carr pass incomplete short left to A.Johnson (D.Groce).
3-4-50 (6:44) D.Carr sacked at 50 for 0 yards (K.Lang). FUMBLES (K.Lang), touched at DEN 48, ball out of bounds at HST 44.
3-4-HOU48 (3:22) D.Carr sacked at HST 41 for -7 yards (E.Ekuban).
3-8-DEN40 (1:13) D.Carr pass short middle to K.Walter to DEN 35 for 5 yards (DJ.Williams).
3-5-DEN11 (:12) D.Carr spiked the ball to stop the clock.
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You missed one--still a bleak picture:

3-6-DEN29 (10:16) D.Carr pass to E.Moulds to DEN 18 for 11 yards (C.Cox; K.Paymah).
1-10-DEN18 (9:22) V.Morency left guard to DEN 16 for 2 yards (C.Vaughn).
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You missed one--still a bleak picture:

3-6-DEN29 (10:16) D.Carr pass to E.Moulds to DEN 18 for 11 yards (C.Cox; K.Paymah).
1-10-DEN18 (9:22) V.Morency left guard to DEN 16 for 2 yards (C.Vaughn).
Ok...one.
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I guess it was Sterling Sharpe doing the commentary on the NFL Network during the game, and he said something I have been saying for the last month. Sharpe was going through the Texans schedule and how tough it is. Sharpe said if the Texans don't beat the Eagles, they may not get a W until Thanksgiving.
This is the same Sterling Sharpe that at the expansion draft said the Texans would win the AFC South in their first year of existence. The Texans won't lose their first 6 games of the season. Or win their first 6 games in the season. The answer lies somewhere in between. I don't know how many, neither does Sterling Sharpe.
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Not that it matters but I think thier 2nd teamers slowly started coming in late 2nd quarter and into the third.
Just like the Texans putting in Malone during the 1st half, the Broncos rotate players a lot--not the same thing as putting in the 2nd D. Look at who made all the plays on that last draft--DJ Williams, Al Wilson, Darrent Williams, Ian Gold--all 1st teamers.
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Funny.....but I have people from all over the country emailing me and telling me Carr looked awful last night...I tell them hell, he looked better last night than I'm used too. The only people who tell me Carr looks like a legit big time QB are our homers, and people who never get to see him and still think his mega contract means he is good.
Man you are ruthless with Carr. He by far was not spectacular last night (either was Andre Johnson), but he was decent. He actually threw to TE's and settled down a bit. We had some really good long drives that led to scores (no TD's however) I'm not panicking on Carr as I know it will take a little time for him to click with this type of offense (notice he Kubiak didn't really rip him for the slow start).
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Originally Posted by Vinny
Funny.....but I have people from all over the country emailing me and telling me Carr looked awful last night...I tell them hell, he looked better last night than I'm used too. The only people who tell me Carr looks like a legit big time QB are our homers, and people who never get to see him and still think his mega contract means he is good.
No doubt man, everyone not drinking battle red kool-aid sees Carr for what he is....which is a below average QB. One day these homers will wake up and smell the losses. Dude still looks like a rookie and his delivery has totally regressed in his mechanics. I can't believe anyone would say he looked good. He looked terrible. I hope the guy improves but if he doesnt I want us to be horrible this year so we can finally get rid of that loser and sign someone worth a crud.

If I hear from another person on this board that Carr looks good or the offense was 'clicking' I think I am going to vomit battle red kool aid. Also Lindy looked like arse as well. Morency better be the starter come opening day because he runs better and more importantly blocks better.

I want to see where the Carr supporters are when we are 3-13 at the end of the season. I hope you guys just disappear into a hole or something because to be honest I am sick of all the homering and excuses. Enough is enough and please admit you were wrong. Carr sucks.

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