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MrLizardTX · 10-09-2004

Texas needs a quarterback. Vince Young is an athlete playing quarterback. NFL scouts project him as a receiver at the next level. He can't throw. He has no pocket presence. He's fast but doesn't run hard enough to be a running QB. Texas is thin at receiver anyway. They need to move Young outside and put Mock under center.

WWJD · 10-09-2004

He has exactly the same body type as Roy Williams. Tall, all legs and lanky.

Too bad Roy isn't there anymore. Texas doesn't even try throwing to the receivers. Their game plan sucks.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 10-09-2004

Vince Young = Kordell Stewart

WWJD · 10-09-2004

Well he's a young guy and I think with some good coaching he could be very good. He has a goofy throwing motion though and it looks like he hasn't progressed at all from last year. Bad coaching I think.

nunusguy · 10-09-2004

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Originally Posted by MrLizardTX

NFL scouts project him as a receiver at the next level.

Actually, I see him as a Wing Back or maybe blocking back in the Single Wing.

TexansCanes · 10-10-2004

i said the same thing before the season and was ripped, particularly by tenxansfan88, where are you now. i give him another year and when spurrier gets their

i think his passing game will improve and maybe turn into a real qb.

BuffSoldier · 10-10-2004

I think all he needs is a little time to grow, and some receivers. He has great arm strength but needs to work on accuracy, thats all. Wait till his senoir year he could be a stud and a top pick.

keyfro · 10-10-2004

nah...with all respect to the texas longhorn organization young is not a QB...he could be one of the best option QB's in ncaa history but mack brown doesn't run the option...give this kid to frank solich and this team is a in the nation title game...texas needs to realize this move him to reciever now...and put chance mock in at QB...he has the arm to make UT a two threat offensive team

Huge · 10-10-2004

There are true freshmen and true sophomores all across the country that are exhibiting a ton more accuracy than Young right now. And they're not throwing to future first round WRs either.

If you bounce the ball 4 feet in front of your target, it doesn't matter who the target is...he's not going to catch it.

Sad thing is, Greg Davis has apparently been working on his mechanics. But if you pull up video clips from Young when he was in high school, his mechanics were actually better then.

Only way he's able to correct this is if Texas hires away Norm Chow from USC and makes him their head coach. Under Mack Brown and Greg Davis however, Young will fall in a long line of underdeveloped talent.

LiveForTheGame · 10-11-2004

I've said it for two years now. You can't take a QB who has had great success running the football and turn him into a great or very good passing QB. If you do, you lose their ability to run as well as they used to. Young will not be a top QB and will not develop under Mack Brown. He might be able to develop in the NFL but I don't think so. Don't get me wrong- Vince Young is one of the greatest athletes I've seen on the college level and has fantastic abilities, but he isn't a QB. His mind set and instincts aren't that of a passing QB.

TheOgre · 10-11-2004

I think Vince Young's progression as a quarterback is just a symptom of the problem. We have had 3 stellar QB recruits in Chris Simms, Vince Young, and Chance Mock. What have we done with them? Not a hell of a lot. Lets get rid of Greg Davis (the offensive coordinator) and bring in someone who can actually teach and utilize our talent. All he does it call for flat passes the entire game.

Also, if you take away the three turnovers, we are right in this game.

WWJD · 10-11-2004

I was reading a quote by one of the Horns players and he said that OU had a better game plan.

That to me is conceding that the UT coaches were outcoached. Again.

I've thought about this all weekend and I'd really like to see the Horns get somebody else as head coach. I'm just not sure Mack can take the team to the next level.

TheOgre · 10-11-2004

My guess is that Mack will be given an ultimatum to fire Greg Davis or pack up his things too. Lets wait and see.

WWJD · 10-11-2004

Yes, wait and see.

I sure hate to even talk about firing the guy. He's brought the team back to national prominence where I believe they belong.

But they just cannot seem to get over the hump. At some point you have to weigh your good with your bad and make tough decisions.

I'm wondering if the gossip I heard about Spurrier being interested is just gossip or maybe there is some truth behind it.

TheOgre · 10-11-2004

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Originally Posted by WWJD

I'm wondering if the gossip I heard about Spurrier being interested is just gossip or maybe there is some truth behind it.

I think that is just gossip. The thing is thought that he would join a top recruiting school with almost year round golf.

WWJD · 10-11-2004

Gosh wouldn't Spurrier be almost the "anti" Texas type of coach? He's guns blazing on offense, and they've always been run first.

I never know what to believe. I'm guessing Mack's job is safe and they'll go into the CB game again next year an underdog. I really am disappointed in their play in the OU games.

Reddevil63 · 10-11-2004

Reggie McNeal > Vince Young said it all along and UT fans ripped me apart for it. Lets just say theyve started to quite down. He beat OU as a true freshman and Young hasnt been able to do it as a Fr. or So..

**ArlingtonTexan** · 10-11-2004

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Reggie McNeal > Vince Young said it all along and UT fans ripped me apart for it. Lets just say theyve started to quite down. He beat OU as a true freshman and Young hasnt been able to do it as a Fr. or So..

Reggie McNeil is a QB who is a great athlete, not a great athlete who is trying to play QB. IMO, McNeil will play in the NFL. I will listen to the bad coaching some, but Young does not appear to have a great deal of skill and instinct as a passer.

I think I trust the QB at ARkansas, same tall body type with very good speed (help me with name someone), more throwing the ball more than vince Young.

wags · 10-11-2004

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Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan

I think I trust the QB at ARkansas, same tall body type with very good speed (help me with name someone), more throwing the ball more than vince Young.

Matt Jones

LiveForTheGame · 10-11-2004

Bowden has lost to Miami for the last 5 games...should he be fired? Mack Brown has UT in the top 10-15 every year. He just hasn't been able to beat OU. I'm not sure you fire a coach for not being able to beat one team when he has the team having a great season year in and year out...but I htink there is a better coach out there for UT.

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MrLizardTX Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Age: 44 Posts: 188 Rep Power: 10	Vince Young Texas needs a quarterback. Vince Young is an athlete playing quarterback. NFL scouts project him as a receiver at the next level. He can't throw. He has no pocket presence. He's fast but doesn't run hard enough to be a running QB. Texas is thin at receiver anyway. They need to move Young outside and put Mock under center.

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BuffSoldier Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Tha South Side of Screwston, Texas Age: 25 Posts: 1,929 Rep Power: 11	I think all he needs is a little time to grow, and some receivers. He has great arm strength but needs to work on accuracy, thats all. Wait till his senoir year he could be a stud and a top pick. __________________ Pressure bust a pipe.

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keyfro Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 1,859 Rep Power: 13	nah...with all respect to the texas longhorn organization young is not a QB...he could be one of the best option QB's in ncaa history but mack brown doesn't run the option...give this kid to frank solich and this team is a in the nation title game...texas needs to realize this move him to reciever now...and put chance mock in at QB...he has the arm to make UT a two threat offensive team __________________ With the 10th overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft the Houston Texans select...?????

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10-09-2004	#2
WWJD Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,260 Rep Power: 374	He has exactly the same body type as Roy Williams. Tall, all legs and lanky. Too bad Roy isn't there anymore. Texas doesn't even try throwing to the receivers. Their game plan sucks.

10-09-2004	#3
STEEL BLUE TEXANS Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 5,327 Rep Power: 1832	Vince Young = Kordell Stewart

10-10-2004	#6
TexansCanes All Pro Join Date: May 2004 Location: LSU Age: 26 Posts: 600 Rep Power: 10	i said the same thing before the season and was ripped, particularly by tenxansfan88, where are you now. i give him another year and when spurrier gets their i think his passing game will improve and maybe turn into a real qb.

10-10-2004	#9
Huge Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Out yonder way... Age: 41 Posts: 2,386 Rep Power: 15	There are true freshmen and true sophomores all across the country that are exhibiting a ton more accuracy than Young right now. And they're not throwing to future first round WRs either. If you bounce the ball 4 feet in front of your target, it doesn't matter who the target is...he's not going to catch it. Sad thing is, Greg Davis has apparently been working on his mechanics. But if you pull up video clips from Young when he was in high school, his mechanics were actually better then. Only way he's able to correct this is if Texas hires away Norm Chow from USC and makes him their head coach. Under Mack Brown and Greg Davis however, Young will fall in a long line of underdeveloped talent.

10-11-2004	#10
LiveForTheGame Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston Age: 25 Posts: 311 Rep Power: 0	I've said it for two years now. You can't take a QB who has had great success running the football and turn him into a great or very good passing QB. If you do, you lose their ability to run as well as they used to. Young will not be a top QB and will not develop under Mack Brown. He might be able to develop in the NFL but I don't think so. Don't get me wrong- Vince Young is one of the greatest athletes I've seen on the college level and has fantastic abilities, but he isn't a QB. His mind set and instincts aren't that of a passing QB.

10-11-2004	#11
TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	I think Vince Young's progression as a quarterback is just a symptom of the problem. We have had 3 stellar QB recruits in Chris Simms, Vince Young, and Chance Mock. What have we done with them? Not a hell of a lot. Lets get rid of Greg Davis (the offensive coordinator) and bring in someone who can actually teach and utilize our talent. All he does it call for flat passes the entire game. Also, if you take away the three turnovers, we are right in this game.

10-11-2004	#17
Reddevil63 Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arlington Age: 28 Posts: 1,253 Rep Power: 12	Reggie McNeal > Vince Young said it all along and UT fans ripped me apart for it. Lets just say theyve started to quite down. He beat OU as a true freshman and Young hasnt been able to do it as a Fr. or So..

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