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Old 09-15-2004   #41
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No he is not still a Pro-Bowl Corner. And if you think that then you are really in trouble.
And for the guy that said AJ was a classy and quiet dude. Please he was a loud mouth cocky player at Miami and nothing has changed. Maybe he hasn't done anything in Texas yet, but he is far from a Choir Boy.
Aaron Glenn is one injury plagued season removed from being a Pro Bowl player...check the 2002 Pro Bowl rosters...don't count one of the hardest working and smartest...not to mention most well respected by his peers...DB's in the league out....also someone in here mentioned he wasn't even in the top 20 CBs in the league anymore...I challenge someone to name me 20 CB's better than Aaron in the league.

Secondly, AJ being loud mouth and cocky....think you better check your facts Kingz my boy...AJ has always been quiet and respectful...don't let the overall reputation of the school and some of his team mates...(can you say KWII) prejudice your opinion of a very classy young man.
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If you watch the replay take a look at Brees looking left and then making the pivot to the right and throwing a strike for the TD as Coleman bit on the action on Brees's left.
I going to come to Coleman's defense on this one. Brees took a 5 step drop and looked at the slant. Had Coleman not jumped on that route, Brees would have picked up another 3rd & long. Most of the time when a QB takes a 5 step drop, he has to get rid of the ball. That the QB had the time to come off that receiver, step up in the pocket, and look for Parker on the seam route is a strike against the pass rush.

Glenn was also in a deep zone, but had a WR outside Parker on the right. Glenn & Coleman both went with the shorter routes, the pass rush didn't get there, TD San Diego. Excellent play design that was well executed starting with a great job by the Charger O-line.
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Sure the Texans lost at home but we lost bad in the turnover ratio, -4 and still only lost by 7 points. Had we not lost those (we won't next week) we would have made a blow out performance, no doubt! If we would have caused 4 turnovers on the Chargers like you guys did on the Bears.....my friend...we would have left the game 35-0!! The Texans' defense didn't do so well last week against the Chargers but I'm sure they'll go into Detroit performing in a defensive playoff performance. Last but not least, our offense is much more menacing than the Lions IMO.
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We are an unpredictable lot. 2002 we lost to a very bad Bengals game at home but we beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh and a decent Giants team. In 2003 we surprised the Dolphins (in Miami) in the opener, beat the Panthers, and took the Patriots to OT. We turned around and lost to the Vinny led Jets at home and were blown out by the Jags on the road.

My point is that you never know what you will get with us. It is easily conceiveable for us to lose to the Chargers and turn around and beat y'all.
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I recall seeing Wright covering Gates, but I never saw Glenn on him. I'm not sure where ESPN got that, but perhaps he was on him a play or two and we missed it. I saw Wong on him, but I think Brown was primarily assigned to him early on at least.

King must be channeling the wrong Miami reciever. AJ isn't like Irvin or Winslow. He barely talks above a whisper, but if you're sure it was AJ then perhaps you could find an article with one of his 'loud mouth, cocky' quotes.

As far as Roy burning Glenn you might want to rethink that. Weren't your starting corners for this year Dre Bly (5'10 185) and Fernando Bryant (5'11 175)? I know Bly is out, but are you forgetting AJ's (6'3 219) size and speed. I assume Andre Goodman(5'10 185) is starting in place of Bly. Using your logic Sam Madison, Terrance Newman, Duane Starks, and Patrick Surtain would all be getting burnt due to their lack of size. Guess that also means that small WRs like Harrison and Steve Smith must be blanketed all the time? I'm all for debating football, but at least come with some facts, and not soley homerism.
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I find it rather weird how you Lions fans are really cocky for this game...

I'm not taking the Lions lightly but I'm excited about this match up...seems like you guys are taking the Texans lightly however after winning by only a 4 point margin against a team (Bears) that doesn't square up against the Texans talent wise...and somewhat on certain positions, more so on the secondary positions.
Actually, most educated lions fans are nervous about this one. It is like the guy above me (Ogre?) said^^^, unpredicatable. I believe most Lions fans think the Lions will pull it out only because they are at home, all the rest on the DuMB are just kids that don't know what they are talking about and just want to talk sh*t.
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Actually, most educated lions fans are nervous about this one. It is like the guy above me (Ogre?) said^^^, unpredicatable. I believe most Lions fans think the Lions will pull it out only because they are at home, all the rest on the DuMB are just kids that don't know what they are talking about and just want to talk sh*t.
Hey Houston. I am an educated Lion Fan and I am also an adult. You keep defending Lions Fans who are talking smack, well you can talk smack and be respectful in how you do it as long as we don't cross the line. I also am not really all that worried about this game. It will be very hard for the Texans to travel to Detroit, Play a non-conference fo and win this game. First we are tough to beat at home no matter how talented we may or may not be and this year we happen to have way way mre talent then in recent year when we beat teams much better than the Texans. Second of all intense purposes the Texans outplayed the Charges last week and still lost. All be it due to turnovers, but they still played well.

Everyone assumed they will play just as well just without the turnovers. I beg to differ. I think we are much better than San Diego and turnovers or not they will lose. Ford Field is a tough place to play. Also I believe our offense will be much better than last week and the D will only get better. We had alot of guys play last week who were coming off injuries and had not practiced or played much in the pre-season. Especially on D.

I think a 28-14 outcome is very realistic. Really no knock on the Texans I just think we are much more confident after all the adversity we faced last week and the home opener is always a high energy game for us.

The Texans will need alot if breaks to keep this one close.
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Sure the Texans lost at home but we lost bad in the turnover ratio, -4 and still only lost by 7 points. Had we not lost those (we won't next week) we would have made a blow out performance, no doubt! If we would have caused 4 turnovers on the Chargers like you guys did on the Bears.....my friend...we would have left the game 35-0!! The Texans' defense didn't do so well last week against the Chargers but I'm sure they'll go into Detroit performing in a defensive playoff performance. Last but not least, our offense is much more menacing than the Lions IMO.
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Hey Houston. I am an educated Lion Fan and I am also an adult. You keep defending Lions Fans who are talking smack, well you can talk smack and be respectful in how you do it as long as we don't cross the line. I also am not really all that worried about this game.
That's why I said most. Your analysis has been very good, better than mine in many cases. I was referring mostly to the kids at the official message board that are saying Det is going to kill Houston because they lost to SD etc...without taking Hou seriously

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It will be very hard for the Texans to travel to Detroit, Play a non-conference fo and win this game. First we are tough to beat at home no matter how talented we may or may not be...
That is why, and only why I pick the Lions in a close one.
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No he is not still a Pro-Bowl Corner. And if you think that then you are really in trouble. I hope your defensive coached feel the same way and leave ROY in signle coverage against him. Glenn is on his last legs. In addition he is like 5'9 and 185. He will be overmatched by the 6,3 220 Williams. ROY is also much faster than Glenn. You guys better double him. Roy will manhandle any of your small DBs...period! And yes he is ready to burn DBs. You run the route, You see the ball, You catch the ball. It ain't that hard to do!.

Glenn was just in the Pro-Bowl in 2002, he's been covering guys taller than him his enitre career and he's been just fine. And why do you keep trying to sell us on Roy Williams? We've watched him for the last 4 years, and you have seen him for 1 game. We know what he can do, and we know what Glenn can do. Glenn has the advantage in this match-up.
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Ok we can keep on talking about who will win and why they will win how close and a blow out,,,,but the fact is that Lion fans expect the LIONS to win and, the texans fans expect the TEXANS to win. So let me make my guess.............hmmm..............tough decision.......................ok...........
i saw texans 31 and lions 17 there were yall suprised who i picked ? No cause i'm a texans fan !!! So lions fans we know you THINK ur lions will win so ya dont have to keep repeating it we GET IT !!!! Do yall like to be let down by the way ....maybe heart broken ???? just curious !
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I'm really looking forward to scoring 30 points or more. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we haven't yet right? I'm also looking for Carr to throw for more than 300 yards. Not yet either right? I would like for it to happen this Sunday, but I'm not counting on it. Matter of fact the edge goes to Detroit because of Ford Field. I think it's a winnable game, but it concerns me.
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Thats correct buddy YET beign the key word !!!! YET my friend
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We have never scored 30, but Carr has passed for 300. It was last year @TEN, I think he had 371 or something like that.
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We have never scored 30, but Carr has passed for 300. It was last year @TEN, I think he had 371 or something like that.
Carr has had one 300 yard day, 19 sub-200 yard days, and 8 200+ yard days. His big day was 371 yards with 2 TD's and 3 INT's
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And for the guy that said AJ was a classy and quiet dude. Please he was a loud mouth cocky player at Miami and nothing has changed. Maybe he hasn't done anything in Texas yet, but he is far from a Choir Boy.
Kingz, with all due respect, you're totally off the trail on this one. As someone who lives waaaaay too close to the Cane Nation, I definitely recall Andre as being one of the few Canes who had his head on straight. He IS a relatively soft-spoken guy who focuses on the business at hand. His comments on Joe Horn's ridiculous celebrations last year confirm that he's still that way. Don't let the Cane stereotype (which I think is VERY valid) get in the way of your opinion of AJ.

Now, how he managed to STAY quiet around the bunch of loudmouths at U-M remains a mystery to me....I just hope your boy Roy follows the classy road, because I loved to watch him dominate in Austin! I also hope he stays healthy--but has a really bad day Sunday. :hehe:
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First off Glenn isnt even a top 20 corner, because he is over the hill... and second my point is that any shmoe can jump in and play WR, but you need ALOT of technique to play CB, hence AJ couldnt play CB...
How do you guage this? Which criteria do you use to 'rank' a cornerback? Unless you have the previous 5 years of game film on Aaron Glenn, then you need to retract that statement. Age doesn't equal effectiveness, and last season, Chad Johnson and Marvin Harrison both said he was one of the best in the league. I trust their opinion on him much more than yours.

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HEY I GOTTA QUESTION??????? HOW WOULD HE BURN AJ IF HE WOULD NEVER ESCAPE THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE????? THE GIANT IS NOT A SOFT PERSON, HE WOULD PUT ROY ON HIS @$$ BEFORE HE COULD GET OUT OF HIS STANCE.

NOT SAYING HE CAN PLAY CORNER. IT WAS A BIG JOKE THAT I PUT ON THE FIRST PAGE ANYWAY. GO TEACH YOUR QB HOW TO NOT INJURE HIS RECIEVER/RECIEVERS WHEN HE THROWS THE BALL. (CHARLIE??????)
Roy is probably strondger then AJ... plus he runs a 4.4 40...
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I have the Lions losing at the very least by 10.

Texans 31
Lions 21

......at the very least. Come on Sunday!!!!
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Roy is probably strondger then AJ... plus he runs a 4.4 40...
You lose a lot of credibility when you make a statement like that. Look everyone around here likes RW a lot, but one look at the two of them shows a marked difference with AJ appearing much stronger (might have something to do with the almost 20 lbs of extra muscle AJ has on RW)--and by the way AJ runs a sub 4.4 40--believe he ran a 4.38 at the combine and 4.28 at his pro-day.

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