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SBTexans08 · 09-15-2004

....it should have been a fumble caused by Babin instead of coming up empty with the sack attempt?????

Why didn't he reach to knock the ball out of his hand....evidently he had clear range to reach even his his arm with a nice blow..... Lets hope little mental mistakes get fixed quicker than not. I'd still like to commend him on an overall job well done on his NFL debut.

V Man · 09-15-2004

Just a slight mistake, I was just happy it was one of the few times that they actually got some pressure on Brees.

Blake · 09-15-2004

He might have been falling already. Its hard to stay upright righting through the OL.

El Tejano · 09-15-2004

Why didn't Baxter catch a pass? Why didn't the ball come out when Wong sacked Brees? Why did Robinson make a rookie mistake? Alot of questions. Just the first week. A new week to improve. Mistakes are part of the game.

**Vinny** · 09-15-2004

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Originally Posted by SBTexans08

....it should have been a fumble caused by Babin instead of coming up empty with the sack attempt?????

Why didn't he reach to knock the ball out of his hand....evidently he had clear range to reach even his his arm with a nice blow..... Lets hope little mental mistakes get fixed quicker than not. I'd still like to commend him on an overall job well done on his NFL debut.

Mental mistake? He was slamming off the edge and was trying to sack the QB. There is no "mental mistake" here.

SBTexans08 · 09-15-2004

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Originally Posted by Vinny

He was slamming off the edge and was trying to sack the QB.

Tell us something we don't know from that pic Vinny. He appears to have enough leverage to be able to hit Brees's upper body/arm. It's like a CB having a clear shot at making a pick but instead just bats the ball down when the turnover is at his disposal.

I'm not knocking Babin one bit and I know mistakes will be made but I was lurking around the Houston Texans.com site and saw this pic in one of the articles...thought I'd post it up and get your feedback in case you guys didn't see it.

Man, you've really got to be careful with what and how you say things around here....

toronado · 09-15-2004

hey guys (my first post)

Brees' arm was prolly only cocked back like that for a split-second. I wouldn't fault Babin much at all here.

- tor

geekster · 09-15-2004

Sheesh! The guy got in and pressured heck out of the QB - you want some cheese with that whine?

**texasguy346** · 09-15-2004

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Originally Posted by SBTexans08

I'm not knocking Babin one bit and I know mistakes will be made but I was lurking around the Houston Texans.com site and saw this pic in one of the articles...thought I'd post it up and get your feedback in case you guys didn't see it.

When you ask for others opinions you tend to get opinions that agree/disagree with you. It's difficult to discern anything from a snapshot. Brees could have tucked the ball when pressured by Babin, and then brought his arm up to throw it away.

How about this picture?

I think this clearly shows that Babin needs to secure his helmet better next time, and he should've went for the strip on this one too. Forget about making the tackle.

SBTexans08 · 09-15-2004

Ummm no, and here goes my opinion.......quite the ramble don't ya think?

**texasguy346** · 09-15-2004

Almost forgot to call you crazy. You're crazy

There ya go.

SBTexans08 · 09-15-2004

...thought you were slippin there for a sec. :hehe:

RTP2110 · 09-15-2004

The problem is that it wasnt a hard hit like Wong's was. Babin wrapped him up and drig him down. When he made contact with Brees he had the ball with both hands. Once Babin started dragging him down, Brees quickly threw it away.

SBTexans08 · 09-15-2004

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Originally Posted by RTP2110

The problem is that it wasnt a hard hit like Wong's was. Babin wrapped him up and drig him down. When he made contact with Brees he had the ball with both hands. Once Babin started dragging him down, Brees quickly threw it away.

Ahhh...see that makes more sense.

texan279 · 09-15-2004

Mental mistake? He got the the QB didn't he? Not only that, but he dropped LT behind the line twice, in his first regular season game. How many rookies can you name can say that? I hope Babin proves all of the media and everyone else who called him a "bust" wrong. The guy has skills, he just needs a little time to put everything together into a complete package, but I have loved what I have seen of Babin so far.

texan279 · 09-15-2004

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The problem is that it wasnt a hard hit like Wong's was. Babin wrapped him up and drig him down. When he made contact with Brees he had the ball with both hands. Once Babin started dragging him down, Brees quickly threw it away.

Wong was coming from Brees' blindside, Brees had no idea he was coming. Brees could do nothing. If a QB sees you coming, then he has time to scramble or throw the ball away.

**eriadoc** · 09-15-2004

He didn't think to strip the ball because he's a rookie. Once he's experienced that a few times, he'll feel when to go for the ball and when to go for the wrap-up. Sort of like DL that feel when to jump and get a tipped pass. It comes with experience.

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SBTexans08 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 3rd Coast Age: 33 Posts: 677 Rep Power: 10	Call me crazy but doesn't this look like.... ....it should have been a fumble caused by Babin instead of coming up empty with the sack attempt????? Why didn't he reach to knock the ball out of his hand....evidently he had clear range to reach even his his arm with a nice blow..... Lets hope little mental mistakes get fixed quicker than not. I'd still like to commend him on an overall job well done on his NFL debut. __________________ MY XBOX 360 GAMER PROFILE

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V Man Pumpkinhead Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alamo City Age: 45 Posts: 2,586 Rep Power: 18	Just a slight mistake, I was just happy it was one of the few times that they actually got some pressure on Brees. __________________ sig by michaelm

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Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,581 Rep Power: 14926	He might have been falling already. Its hard to stay upright righting through the OL. __________________

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geekster Rookie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: El Cajon, CA Age: 67 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Sheesh! The guy got in and pressured heck out of the QB - you want some cheese with that whine? __________________ So many toys... So little time...

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SBTexans08 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 3rd Coast Age: 33 Posts: 677 Rep Power: 10	Ummm no, and here goes my opinion.......quite the ramble don't ya think? __________________ MY XBOX 360 GAMER PROFILE

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El Tejano Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,748 Rep Power: 6842	Why didn't Baxter catch a pass? Why didn't the ball come out when Wong sacked Brees? Why did Robinson make a rookie mistake? Alot of questions. Just the first week. A new week to improve. Mistakes are part of the game.

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toronado Rookie Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 43 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 9	hey guys (my first post) Brees' arm was prolly only cocked back like that for a split-second. I wouldn't fault Babin much at all here. - tor

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texasguy346 Mod Squad Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deer Park, TX Age: 30 Posts: 7,066 Rep Power: 2881	Almost forgot to call you crazy. You're crazy There ya go.

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RTP2110 Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Shore Age: 33 Posts: 2,782 Rep Power: 1844	The problem is that it wasnt a hard hit like Wong's was. Babin wrapped him up and drig him down. When he made contact with Brees he had the ball with both hands. Once Babin started dragging him down, Brees quickly threw it away.

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texan279 Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rosenberg TX Age: 34 Posts: 5,560 Rep Power: 538	Mental mistake? He got the the QB didn't he? Not only that, but he dropped LT behind the line twice, in his first regular season game. How many rookies can you name can say that? I hope Babin proves all of the media and everyone else who called him a "bust" wrong. The guy has skills, he just needs a little time to put everything together into a complete package, but I have loved what I have seen of Babin so far. __________________ Fire It Up, Let the engines roll, It's time to burn it down

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eriadoc Texan-American Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 15,313 Rep Power: 69005	He didn't think to strip the ball because he's a rookie. Once he's experienced that a few times, he'll feel when to go for the ball and when to go for the wrap-up. Sort of like DL that feel when to jump and get a tipped pass. It comes with experience.

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