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Old 08-24-2006   #1
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I find it hard to believe that the coaches are just now thinking about looking at Eric Winston at left tackle. This is a kid who has played the position for three years and was voted by the defensive co-ordinators in the ACC the best left tackle in the League.(ahead of Debrickshaw Ferguson),
I think Charles Spencer has great up side and will be an exccellent player but to my knowledge he has never played the left side before. So putting Winston there should be a no brainer!!!!!!!
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I find it hard to believe that the coaches are just now thinking about looking at Eric Winston at left tackle. This is a kid who has played the position for three years and was voted by the defensive co-ordinators in the ACC the best left tackle in the League.(ahead of Debrickshaw Ferguson),
I think Charles Spencer has great up side and will be an exccellent player but to my knowledge he has never played the left side before. So putting Winston there should be a no brainer!!!!!!!

Ummm.....that was college:brickwall
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Ummm.....that was college:brickwall
Every one is from college at some point.

Unless your Invincible.

I think the point was he played left tackle, is a left tackle. Spencer was a guard wasn't he?

Of course Pitts was a tackle and is now guard so who knows.
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Isn't that where all our players get their initial experience?????Or start as the case may be.....
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I find it hard to believe that the coaches are just now thinking about looking at Eric Winston at left tackle. This is a kid who has played the position for three years and was voted by the defensive co-ordinators in the ACC the best left tackle in the League.(ahead of Debrickshaw Ferguson),
I think Charles Spencer has great up side and will be an exccellent player but to my knowledge he has never played the left side before. So putting Winston there should be a no brainer!!!!!!!
I suspect Winston is being considered LT mainly for the last preseason game, when Spencer and Wand will be rested to prevent injury.
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Isn't that where all our players get their initial experience?????Or start as the case may be.....
Not necessarily. Many players have played one position and one position only. Also, size and readiness to play might be part of why WInston is the RT. Spencer is a much bigger guy, and is closer to play. Winston is going through the more traditional route; he may not see action (unless injuries play a major factor) for another year or two.
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Right now Spencer is a better NFL tackle than Winston. Spencer played LT and LG in college.

In college there are many times that a lineman plays LT simply because he is the best lineman on the team. When some of these players hit the pros, they may be more suited to another line position because of their abilities and the level of competition from opponents and from their teammates for the LT position.

The coaches think they are set with Wand and Spencer at LT and Winston is best suited for RT in our system at this time.

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Here is some food for thought. During the season they will probably suit up one back-up tackle on game day. Who will that be?

If Wand starts they have three options:

1) Suit up Spencer as the 3rd best tackle. If Wand goes down, Spencer goes in. If Weigert goes down, put Spencer at RT. I doubt Spencer gets any RT time, so this scenario isn't likely.
2) Suit up Spencer. If Weigert goes down, move Wand to RT and Spencer to LT. This might be the coaches first choice scenario.
3) Dress Winston or Salaam as the swing tackle that backs up both positions. Spencer doesn't suit up on game day. Also a good option.

If Spencer starts, they will dress either Wand, Winston, or Salaam as the swing tackle. Probably Wand.

It is the nature of roster limits on game day - even if Spencer is really pushing for a starting job, he may not even suit up for games.
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I think Charles Spencer has great up side and will be an exccellent player but to my knowledge he has never played the left side before.
Spencer played his junior year at guard (his first OL experience--he had been a DT for two years). He was then moved to LT for his senior year.
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Every one is from college at some point.

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I think the point was he played left tackle, is a left tackle. Spencer was a guard wasn't he?

Of course Pitts was a tackle and is now guard so who knows.
I understand that. I'm going under the assumption that Kubiak believes he needs more coaching. Is he even 2nd string RT yet? Hey, I'm game for giving him a shot during the pre-seasons fourth game. The whole point about what he did in college can be argued to wits end. I'm saying not everyone makes the transition to the NFL easily. From what I've gathered from past articles, he's needing more time than others. Sorry if I pi---- anyone off.
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Here is some food for thought. During the season they will probably suit up one back-up tackle on game day. Who will that be?

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It is the nature of roster limits on game day - even if Spencer is really pushing for a starting job, he may not even suit up for games.
More interesting to me is the idea that we will probably not dress a third-round draft pick, even though Daniels and Lundy are there. Or will Daniels not be dressed, either?
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I understand that. I'm going under the assumption that Kubiak believes he needs more coaching. Is he even 2nd string RT yet? Hey, I'm game for giving him a shot during the pre-seasons fourth game. The whole point about what he did in college can be argued to wits end. I'm saying not everyone makes the transition to the NFL easily. From what I've gathered from past articles, he's needing more time than others. Sorry if I pi---- anyone off.
You can't Pee Pee me off. Especially something that trivial. I have been through Carr threads and Vince Young threads and Bush threads and MW threads and back to Carr threads.

I'm a salty vet when it come to stuff like this.

Sorry if you got that impression.
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More interesting to me is the idea that we will probably not dress a third-round draft pick, even though Daniels and Lundy are there. Or will Daniels not be dressed, either?
I'm not sure how many TEs they will dress. Last year they did three, sometimes two IIRC.

I like having this problem with depth though, rather than not have any.
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You can't Pee Pee me off. Especially something that trivial. I have been through Carr threads and Vince Young threads and Bush threads and MW threads and back to Carr threads.

I'm a salty vet when it come to stuff like this.

Sorry if you got that impression.
Cool deal. I still wish him well as I will every Texan on the roster.:bananasplit:
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I suspect Winston is being considered LT mainly for the last preseason game, when Spencer and Wand will be rested to prevent injury.
Agreed. First the scouts did a bang up job this year. The second tier gaurds have played well also. A glaring weakness could become a strength in one off season. Mind boggeling.

I'm also thinking this is the "do we cut Salaam start ?" . If he handles left tackle, then that makes Salaam expendable. Winston, though I wasn't there every day, didn't look like he was up with the rest of the OTs when I saw him. There is a reason Duck with mango salza hasn't been seen in prime time. ...yet. We'll see Satuarday night. Been sayin' since Febuary that knee isn't quite right yet. It's getting there though
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I think we put Winston at RT because of our lack of depth at RT after Weigert. Between the two (Winston and Spencer), Winston probably showed the best stuff at RT. Why try to make Spencer a RT when he shows he can hand LT and you can get him the valuable time he needs there, and then you got Winston who can play RT and give him the time he needs there also.

These guys are going to be worked up and down that line before they settle them in at one spot.
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Offensive linemen at each position with potential to start. Most can play more than one position and even back ups look good. Whooee. I hink I love this last draft. Come on David ANderson, I'm rooting for you!!
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Matt Leinart is a lefty, so wasn't the USC line reversed? (ie, weaker guy on the left?)
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Matt Leinart is a lefty, so wasn't the USC line reversed? (ie, weaker guy on the left?)
Are you thinking about Winston Justice? Eric Winston went to Miami.
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We still need to pick up another LT in the draft, because Spencer will be better suited as a guard. That's just my opinion based on how much better he is at run blocking than pass protection. Plus with his quick punch it would be beneficial for him to play guard, because it would allow the T to get his head across the defenders body in the zone blocking scheme.
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We still need to pick up another LT in the draft, because Spencer will be better suited as a guard.
Even if Spencer converts to guard (a big if), where is our first string LT going?
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