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Old 08-24-2006   #1
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I think Kris Brown is an excellent guy and would love to see him come out of his funk. However would it be wise to bring in Martin Gramatica this week to at least compete with Brown? The Patriots just let him go, deciding to go with a younger kicker despite Gramatica having a good camp. I guess we will know soon since the Texans have first dibs on any released players.
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I think Kris Brown is an excellent guy and would love to see him come out of his funk. However would it be wise to bring in Martin Gramatica this week to at least compete with Brown? The Patriots just let him go, deciding to go with a younger kicker despite Gramatica having a good camp. I guess we will know soon since the Texans have first dibs on any released players.

We already have a guy who's as likely to make one from 53 as he is from 30.
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I think Kris Brown is an excellent guy and would love to see him come out of his funk. However would it be wise to bring in Martin Gramatica this week to at least compete with Brown? The Patriots just let him go, deciding to go with a younger kicker despite Gramatica having a good camp. I guess we will know soon since the Texans have first dibs on any released players.
In reality you would like to have both of these guys. You would use G inside of about the 37 and Brown when the range exceeds that number. G's problems is simply that he doesn't have the big leg. That's why he was released. A great kicker would put a lot of pressure on the other team, because I think offensively we can get into range on a lot of possessions. You begin hitting those shots and its like a body punch. Take enough hits and you are going down, its as simple as that.
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Grammatica is too much a risk, he'd make an extra point, celebrate and blow out his knee.

I'll get over the disappointment of losing an occasional game much faster than the disappointment that my favorite team signed one of the infamous Grammatica Bros.
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he looks like the Great Gazoo anyway..
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I've always thought him and the Great Al DelGreco looked like Andy Garcia.
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How did I know this was going to be a thread? As soon as I saw the news of his release, I was like "Well, how long until we see the 'Should we bring in Gramatica' thread?"

There's going to be a whole laundry list of kickers who get cut, so I say we wait.

Bring back Del Greco. Or Ian Howfield...that would be a trip.

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Maybe Rackers will get cut.

Seriously though, I kinda like the idea of only having one kicker during the regular season. It opens an extra spot on the 53. Having said that, it would be nice if we could bring in another kicker for a week or two and have an extended kicking competition between the two.
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Maybe Rackers will get cut.

Seriously though, I kinda like the idea of only having one kicker during the regular season. It opens an extra spot on the 53. Having said that, it would be nice if we could bring in another kicker for a week or two and have an extended kicking competition between the two.
Yes, most teams do not carry an extra kicker because even if your starting kicker goes out with an injury (or is failing) during the season...you can find a kicker of probably equal value out there who is not working. Makes perfect sense to just open up an extra roster spot like you are saying when a team knows it can grab a guy in a heartbeat who isn't on a team yet.

There's an article on a kicker who has a website where he lets kickers post video of themselves making kicks...it's been a tool that coaches are using to scout kickers who are out there and looking for work. That way, a coach can bring in maybe only 2 kickers for live practices (from maybe 100s that he viewed on the website) instead of having to bring in 5 or 6 or more.

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I'm totally in favor of some competition (especially the way Brown's been kicking). I haven't understood why Kubiak has been so quick to stoke the fires of competition at other positions and has given Brown a free ride. Time to put a little (or a LOT) of pressure on Brown.
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I think Kris Brown is an excellent guy and would love to see him come out of his funk. However would it be wise to bring in Martin Gramatica this week to at least compete with Brown? The Patriots just let him go, deciding to go with a younger kicker despite Gramatica having a good camp. I guess we will know soon since the Texans have first dibs on any released players.
I thinks its a good idea its worth a try kube wanted to create competition kickers need to be pushed also.
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If anything just bring him, just to let Kris know your job is not safe and we are looking at you, just like the Sage and David aspect, it will bring out a better player in Kris.......
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isnt that the same guy who blew out a knee celebrating an extra point?
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Bring in Mark Klein from Klein's fine jewelry. If he doesn't make it, free diamonds for everyone. Supposedly, he is kicking 60 yarders and the Packers were going to bring him in for a tryout.
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No it was his brother who played for the Cardinals. I think his name is Bill Gramatica.
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That was his brother Bill.

Martin was really good for awhile in Tampa Bay. I say we bring him in, he might not have a leg like Kris Brown, but he is much more dependable inside 40 yards.
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Plus, I think it would be hilarious to see him and coach Marciano celebrating field goals!!!!
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Kris Brown still worries me...................a lot.
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