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texan279 · 08-23-2006

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Lions | C. Rogers could go on the waiver wire
Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:01:36 -0700

Tom Kowalski, of MLive.com, reports Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers could go on the waiver wire if the team decides to cut ties with him. He would be subject to the waiver wire because he only has three years of league experience. By going on the waiver wire, the Lions would have no control over who he signs with and the team that claims him would get Rogers for cheap. Rogers failed to reach many of his contract incentives and the team that claims him and the remaining four years of his contract would only be on the hook for his one-year salary of $757,917. The team that claims him could release him if things do not work out and there would be no additional hit on their salary cap.

Mysteryhunt · 08-23-2006

just out of curiosity where are the texans on the waiver clams list? is it done by record the previous season (pleasepleaseplease!)

texan279 · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Mysteryhunt

just out of curiosity where are the texans on the waiver clams list? is it done by record the previous season (pleasepleaseplease!)

I believe so, I think we have first rights to waivers due to having the worst record last season. I may be wrong but I think I read it here somewhere, I am sure someone else can chime in and correct me if I am wrong.

CloakNNNdagger · 08-23-2006

The Texans have 1st dibs on the waiver wire. However, in the case of Rogers, there are a lot of questions. Remember the big controversy of AJ vs Rogers in the draft. Well since then, Rogers has demonstated less than stellar work ethic. He has had 2 freak collar bone fractures in 2 seasons. But probably most important to the Texans evaluation may be the 4 game suspension last year for substance abuse. He's now nursing a "sore knee" which does not sound like a big thing, but has not been characterized. He may come cheap, and may have great potential. But if the Texans determine that he is "trouble in a bag," his fate is to be passed on.

thunderkyss · 08-23-2006

It's amazing Harrington couldn't go to the SuperBowl with talent like that.

cap1 · 08-23-2006

Remember the EA sports comercial he did with Ray Lewis?

I am just glad the Lions picked him and not AJ at the time.

**infantrycak** · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by texan279

I believe so, I think we have first rights to waivers due to having the worst record last season. I may be wrong but I think I read it here somewhere, I am sure someone else can chime in and correct me if I am wrong.

The Texans have the 1st pick on the waiver wire thru the 4th week of the regular season. Then the waiver order goes to regular season standings--whoohoo 1st to 32nd week 5.

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

It's amazing Harrington couldn't go to the SuperBowl with talent like that.

Must ... resist ... urge ... to poke non-sleeping bear ...

chuckm · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

Must ... resist ... urge ... to poke non-sleeping bear ...

Please resist .... you aren't the only one that would suffer ....

Hervoyel · 08-23-2006

I think he's worth a look. Maybe if you take a closer look and don't like what you see then you don't keep him but he's definitely worth a look. I don't think it would take our current brain trust very long to figure out whether he was a candidate to turn it around or not. Just because he's a Detroit castoff doesn't mean he's hopeless. I don't think their previous and current coaching staff/front office was any better at developing talent than our old one was.

Who knows, being waived might be a wake up call for him and he might actually come around with some real coaching. If not then it's no big deal to us.

**infantrycak** · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Hervoyel

Who knows, being waived might be a wake up call for him and he might actually come around with some real coaching. If not then it's no big deal to us.

I agree--while not the nicest guy this is a freebee. The Texans don't lose their #1 waiver pick by exercising it. There is no salary cap hit for dumping him if it doesn't work out. Let wunderkind Shanahan work with him in a new environment AND let him try to sit on the same field as AJ and prove he is better--what better way to jack his pride and motivation into high gear.

thunderkyss · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

I agree--while not the nicest guy this is a freebee. The Texans don't lose their #1 waiver pick by exercising it. There is no salary cap hit for dumping him if it doesn't work out. Let wunderkind Shanahan work with him in a new environment AND let him try to sit on the same field as AJ and prove he is better--what better way to jack his pride and motivation into high gear.

So we get dibs on every one who is waived?? wow...... I didn't realize that....

I totally agree with you and Herv...... why not??

**gtexan02** · 08-23-2006

Why not? Because the Texans have made a point of bringing in "class-act" guys and cutting ties with guys who show any sort of "questionable" behavior.

We are relatively deep at WR all of a sudden as well

Sarg01 · 08-23-2006

Only reason not to is not having a roster spot. I have a hard time believing Charles Rogers can't make the #5 WR spot for our team.

08-23-2006

I think the Texans may consider taking a chance on him...why not ? if they decide that he isn't a good fit they could always cut him and not lose anything...

cap1 · 08-23-2006

if he is waived and we pick him up we have what like a week to see if he can make the team. It is worth a shot.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 08-23-2006

Low risk, high reward. I wouldn't have a problem at all if they brought him in for a look.

Texans Horror · 08-23-2006

Many Texans players have shown great turn-arounds/improvements this year: TJ and Buchanon, for example. So, as long as Charles Rogers isn't a gun-toting, dope-smoking, TO-acting machine, I don't see why we shouldn't give him a shot. If there's a chance he could disrupt the team, however, then I say pass on him...

**feebleminded** · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Sarg01

Only reason not to is not having a roster spot. I have a hard time believing Charles Rogers can't make the #5 WR spot for our team.

I doubt that they touch this guy. He had both on and off the field problems. The only reason to take a look at him is if you believe that he can be a #1 or #2 type player within the next couple of years. In the interim the guy has to be at least a solid contributor on special teams.

Seems like a lot to try to figure out in a week.

HJam72 · 08-23-2006

I bet we can get TO in about a month, lol.

RiotCommander · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by feebleminded

I doubt that they touch this guy. He had both on and off the field problems. The only reason to take a look at him is if you believe that he can be a #1 or #2 type player within the next couple of years. In the interim the guy has to be at least a solid contributor on special teams.

Seems like a lot to try to figure out in a week.

I agree, here. I doubt we touch him because of the off the field problems. Everyone on waviers are there because of something, but if this guy could get it done on the field I doubt they would just let him go. So thats more then one headach your willing to take on. I admit last year when we didn't have Moulds I would have jumped at the chance, but now I just don't think we need that sort of help.

08-23-2006	#6
cap1 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Friendswood, TX Age: 34 Posts: 557 Rep Power: 11	Remember the EA sports comercial he did with Ray Lewis? I am just glad the Lions picked him and not AJ at the time. __________________ 2006 Champion of Yahoo Fantasy Football League: Go Texan League

08-23-2006	#9
Hervoyel The Right Track Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 12,872 Rep Power: 58358	I think he's worth a look. Maybe if you take a closer look and don't like what you see then you don't keep him but he's definitely worth a look. I don't think it would take our current brain trust very long to figure out whether he was a candidate to turn it around or not. Just because he's a Detroit castoff doesn't mean he's hopeless. I don't think their previous and current coaching staff/front office was any better at developing talent than our old one was. Who knows, being waived might be a wake up call for him and he might actually come around with some real coaching. If not then it's no big deal to us. __________________ A wise man once said "...well at this point it's all been hashed out and you either see it or don't. Hoping for a win next week" - HTown2ATX

08-23-2006	#15
cap1 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Friendswood, TX Age: 34 Posts: 557 Rep Power: 11	if he is waived and we pick him up we have what like a week to see if he can make the team. It is worth a shot. __________________ 2006 Champion of Yahoo Fantasy Football League: Go Texan League

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HJam72 Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Over here. Age: 40 Posts: 10,472 Rep Power: 18004	I bet we can get TO in about a month, lol. __________________

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08-23-2006	#1
texan279 Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rosenberg TX Age: 34 Posts: 5,561 Rep Power: 538	Charles Rogers from www.kffl.com Lions \| C. Rogers could go on the waiver wire Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:01:36 -0700 Tom Kowalski, of MLive.com, reports Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers could go on the waiver wire if the team decides to cut ties with him. He would be subject to the waiver wire because he only has three years of league experience. By going on the waiver wire, the Lions would have no control over who he signs with and the team that claims him would get Rogers for cheap. Rogers failed to reach many of his contract incentives and the team that claims him and the remaining four years of his contract would only be on the hook for his one-year salary of $757,917. The team that claims him could release him if things do not work out and there would be no additional hit on their salary cap. __________________ Fire It Up, Let the engines roll, It's time to burn it down

08-23-2006	#2
Mysteryhunt Veteran Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 30 Posts: 296 Rep Power: 8	just out of curiosity where are the texans on the waiver clams list? is it done by record the previous season (pleasepleaseplease!)

08-23-2006	#4
CloakNNNdagger Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,472 Rep Power: 43980	The Texans have 1st dibs on the waiver wire. However, in the case of Rogers, there are a lot of questions. Remember the big controversy of AJ vs Rogers in the draft. Well since then, Rogers has demonstated less than stellar work ethic. He has had 2 freak collar bone fractures in 2 seasons. But probably most important to the Texans evaluation may be the 4 game suspension last year for substance abuse. He's now nursing a "sore knee" which does not sound like a big thing, but has not been characterized. He may come cheap, and may have great potential. But if the Texans determine that he is "trouble in a bag," his fate is to be passed on.

08-23-2006	#5
thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 25,733 Rep Power: 51478	It's amazing Harrington couldn't go to the SuperBowl with talent like that. __________________ I swear it's for real this time!

08-23-2006	#12
gtexan02 Working? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Age: 29 Posts: 15,334 Rep Power: 34917	Why not? Because the Texans have made a point of bringing in "class-act" guys and cutting ties with guys who show any sort of "questionable" behavior. We are relatively deep at WR all of a sudden as well

08-23-2006	#13
Sarg01 Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 1,152 Rep Power: 11	Only reason not to is not having a roster spot. I have a hard time believing Charles Rogers can't make the #5 WR spot for our team.

08-23-2006	#14
real Guest Posts: n/a	I think the Texans may consider taking a chance on him...why not ? if they decide that he isn't a good fit they could always cut him and not lose anything...

08-23-2006	#16
STEEL BLUE TEXANS Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 5,327 Rep Power: 1832	Low risk, high reward. I wouldn't have a problem at all if they brought him in for a look.

08-23-2006	#17
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	Many Texans players have shown great turn-arounds/improvements this year: TJ and Buchanon, for example. So, as long as Charles Rogers isn't a gun-toting, dope-smoking, TO-acting machine, I don't see why we shouldn't give him a shot. If there's a chance he could disrupt the team, however, then I say pass on him...

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