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HJam72 · 08-22-2006

Little article on Morency, his problems early in camp with blocking, and his emergence in preseason game #2. I thought it was pretty good.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/de...xans%20Insider

edit: Oh, I forgot. You probably need a subscription to the free content (Texans Insider) to see it. I don't know. Maybe we can post the whole thing here. Beats me.

Frills · 08-23-2006

Which is why if DD doesn't make it back it might be better for the Texans.

At least Lundy held someone versus the DD nonexistant blitz pickups. Missing all practices, and never having the desire to help protect Carr, he should be buried for the first 6 weeks on the PuP list

eric138 · 08-23-2006

Lundy?? We must have watched different games. I just re-watched the game lastnight looking for certain details and Lundy was blind to End's running right by him. When they put Morency in things changed and you saw him cutting anyone who even thought about getting close to Carr. Lundy will pick this up and prove to be the best but right now I think Morency is on top.

Marcus · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Frills

Which is why if DD doesn't make it back it might be better for the Texans.

At least Lundy held someone versus the DD nonexistant blitz pickups. Missing all practices, and never having the desire to help protect Carr, he should be buried for the first 6 weeks on the PuP list

shhhhhh . . . someone might get mad at you for saying that . . . (even though it's true)

19-10 · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Marcus

shhhhhh . . . someone might get mad at you for saying that . . . (even though it's true)

FINALLY somone said it. I don't understand the blind loyalty to DD by some on the board. He's slightly above average at running, good at catching/running and that's really it. Well besides being a no blocking, injury waiting to happen. Bring on the new guys!!!

**infantrycak** · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Frills

At least Lundy held someone versus the DD nonexistant blitz pickups. Missing all practices, and never having the desire to help protect Carr, he should be buried for the first 6 weeks on the PuP list

Wow, so in addition to being able to see DD's clear problems in pass protection you can look into his heart and see it is due to lack of desire? You should be out at the airport as the desire checker instead of all these metal detectors, etc.

texan279 · 08-23-2006

So it takes the guy getting injured and being out for months for some to speak how they really feel about certain players? Maybe I am wrong, but I have always said DD was a good, not a great back. I guess instead of Carr threads I should get ready for the DD threads...

Marcus · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

Wow, so in addition to being able to see DD's clear problems in pass protection you can look into his heart and see it is due to lack of desire? You should be out at the airport as the desire checker instead of all these metal detectors, etc.

Oh, that's a cute one, cak.

I did watch those games last season. All those sacks that Carr took . . . on plays that DD didn't run out for the dump pass, where his assignment was to stay back and block . . . well, lets' just say I thought his . .ahem. . 'execution' was something that I would regard as going through the motions, even when he was in the right spot, which wasn't very often.

Go ahead and slam me, but that's my opinion.

HJam72 · 08-23-2006

Morency has learned to run straight ahead and block well under the tutelage of Gary Kubiak and Mike Sherman. DD hasn't had a chance to practice for them yet and be trained. Maybe his blocking would improve as well if he had the same chance to learn. I doubt it would be great or anything, but it might get a lot better. He's been a terrible blocker, yes, but he has been good or great at everything else, so I hate to be too hard on him overall.

Having said that, I still think Morency has probably permanently won the starting job. That's the way it goes. It just shows that the past regime was making some descent picks, but couldn't coach them worth a darn.

El Tejano · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by HJam72

Morency has learned to run straight ahead and block well under the tutelage of Gary Kubiak and Mike Sherman. DD hasn't had a chance to practice for them yet and be trained. Maybe his blocking would improve as well if he had the same chance to learn. I doubt it would be great or anything, but it might get a lot better. He's been a terrible blocker, yes, but he has been good or great at everything else, so I hate to be too hard on him overall.

Having said that, I still think Morency has probably permanently won the starting job. That's the way it goes. It just shows that the past regime was making some descent picks, but couldn't coach them worth a darn.

I agree, but I still feel the starting job is up for grabs. Morency definetly put his name at the top for right now though.

What I would like to see is a little more A. Smith just to get a handle on where he is, and see if Morency can duplicate his performance from last week.

The past two weeks were to see who came to play and Smith should get some carries for the sake of seeing what he can do w/o anyone messing up on the OL.

Blu · 08-23-2006

say what? Double D can't pick up the blitz..could have fooled me.
Even if he had a month of camp, got him 100% healty, the guy still is going to be an ole' master bullfighter.

I've been screaming that for two years now.
Morency is my pick to start.
Again, DD would make a great 3rd down back.

Texans Horror · 08-23-2006

About the whole DD average back thing:

Dominic Davis was a very average back, stats-wise, but he was one of the only Texans success stories last year. (Read: not a story of failure.) The idea, IMO, was that the Denver running game would really improve DD's running game. However, he has lost a lot of time and training due to his injury, and this is why Morency is being considered. I think that unless Davis' injury keeps him out the rest of the season/Morency becomes a top-tier back, then DD has a good shot of returning as the Texans starting RB. It may take a few additional weeks of rehab, but he still has a good shot.

**gtexan02** · 08-23-2006

Everyone's bad play, especially the OLs inability to block, is the old coaching regime's fault. Even Seth Wands crappy play was the old regime's fault.

DDs inability to block is his fault. It stems from a lack of desire on his part, and an uncaring attitude toward David Carr.

Right....real keen insight there. Lets ditch the one proven offensive piece of production on this team right now and switch to the unproven rookie and the 2nd year veteran with 50 total carries in the NFL....

I hate how people on this board jump from bandwagon to bandwagon and are ready to ditch other players like this was madden, and "attributes" were all that mattered. Sure Lundy is good at running straight ahead, and has done well in the preseason. Sure Morency seemed to block well in his game (he was up against #2 and #3 defenses!! I'm sure a #1 D linebacker, especially on a team other than the Rams, will be able to make Morency look a little more human). This DOES NOT mean that this will translate 100% into the regular season.

Why ditch DDavis after 2 preseason games? He is the best offensive weapon we've had on this team, and I for one am not about to give up on him yet.

**infantrycak** · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by Blu

Even if he had a month of camp, got him 100% healty, the guy still is going to be an ole' master bullfighter.

Well Morency is an example to contradict what you are saying. Kubiak said Morency was bad at blocking in this off-season and it clicked for him in the last game. No reason to believe good coaching can't make the same difference in other players.

HJam72 · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by gtexan02

Why ditch DDavis after 2 preseason games? He is the best offensive weapon we've had on this team, and I for one am not about to give up on him yet.

If he gets healthy, I'm sure he'll get a chance to prove himself better than the improved Morency (and Lundy, for that matter). I'm just guessing that Morency will win that battle, but it's only a guess based on the latest impressions I get. I'd love to see them all keep getting better and, hey, whoever winds up best is who I hope wins the job.

**HOU-TEX** · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by HJam72

If he gets healthy, I'm sure he'll get a chance to prove himself better than the improved Morency (and Lundy, for that matter). I'm just guessing that Morency will win that battle, but it's only a guess based on the latest impressions I get. I'd love to see them all keep getting better and, hey, whoever winds up best is who I hope wins the job.

From what I gather from reading Kubiaks comments, all three will have thier fair share. DD, Morency, Lundy. If DD doesn't make it back anytime soon then it'll be a spot for Taylor or Rhodes until he is healthy to play.

**gtexan02** · 08-23-2006

I'd personally like to see Morency up against a 1st string Defense, and one that isn't as porous as the Rams. We know DD can run against 1st string defenses, but can the others? We know Morency can block 2nd and 3rd string pass rushes, but what about 1st string D?

Lets not forget that last year, the Rams ranked 30th in total defense (yards per game) and 28th in rush defense (yard per game). How well do you think their second stringers are? And this was with leonard little sitting out, so assume even worse play from their D-unit

Divebomb · 08-23-2006

I think bashing DD is kinda lame but expected. The guy deserves more credit, I do agree that Morency should be they man this year but there is now way as a fan that I am going to ripp on DD. He will get through this tough time, he is still young and has worked very hard to get back. Morency is probably going to get the nodd for this year, and Lundy will earn a paycheck as well. Overall I think what looked like a drama filled offseason at the running back position has turned into a real +.

Frills · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

Wow, so in addition to being able to see DD's clear problems in pass protection you can look into his heart and see it is due to lack of desire? You should be out at the airport as the desire checker instead of all these metal detectors, etc.

Well, I would go dig all of the old posts up from the archive but I've stated this view since about week 2 or 3 last year. On one thread I was flamed for calling him soft back then.

Frills · 08-23-2006

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08-23-2006	#7
texan279 Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rosenberg TX Age: 34 Posts: 5,562 Rep Power: 538	So it takes the guy getting injured and being out for months for some to speak how they really feel about certain players? Maybe I am wrong, but I have always said DD was a good, not a great back. I guess instead of Carr threads I should get ready for the DD threads... __________________ Fire It Up, Let the engines roll, It's time to burn it down

08-23-2006	#9
HJam72 Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Over here. Age: 40 Posts: 10,504 Rep Power: 18621	Morency has learned to run straight ahead and block well under the tutelage of Gary Kubiak and Mike Sherman. DD hasn't had a chance to practice for them yet and be trained. Maybe his blocking would improve as well if he had the same chance to learn. I doubt it would be great or anything, but it might get a lot better. He's been a terrible blocker, yes, but he has been good or great at everything else, so I hate to be too hard on him overall. Having said that, I still think Morency has probably permanently won the starting job. That's the way it goes. It just shows that the past regime was making some descent picks, but couldn't coach them worth a darn. __________________

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Blu All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Great State of Texas Age: 38 Posts: 667 Rep Power: 9	say what? Double D can't pick up the blitz..could have fooled me. Even if he had a month of camp, got him 100% healty, the guy still is going to be an ole' master bullfighter. I've been screaming that for two years now. Morency is my pick to start. Again, DD would make a great 3rd down back. __________________ We need a QB con awante! y huevos !!!

08-23-2006	#13
gtexan02 Working? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Age: 29 Posts: 15,336 Rep Power: 34917	Everyone's bad play, especially the OLs inability to block, is the old coaching regime's fault. Even Seth Wands crappy play was the old regime's fault. DDs inability to block is his fault. It stems from a lack of desire on his part, and an uncaring attitude toward David Carr. Right....real keen insight there. Lets ditch the one proven offensive piece of production on this team right now and switch to the unproven rookie and the 2nd year veteran with 50 total carries in the NFL.... I hate how people on this board jump from bandwagon to bandwagon and are ready to ditch other players like this was madden, and "attributes" were all that mattered. Sure Lundy is good at running straight ahead, and has done well in the preseason. Sure Morency seemed to block well in his game (he was up against #2 and #3 defenses!! I'm sure a #1 D linebacker, especially on a team other than the Rams, will be able to make Morency look a little more human). This DOES NOT mean that this will translate 100% into the regular season. Why ditch DDavis after 2 preseason games? He is the best offensive weapon we've had on this team, and I for one am not about to give up on him yet. Last edited by gtexan02; 08-23-2006 at 11:41 AM.

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08-22-2006	#1
HJam72 Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Over here. Age: 40 Posts: 10,504 Rep Power: 18621	Protect Your QB Little article on Morency, his problems early in camp with blocking, and his emergence in preseason game #2. I thought it was pretty good. http://www.houstontexans.com/news/de...xans%20Insider edit: Oh, I forgot. You probably need a subscription to the free content (Texans Insider) to see it. I don't know. Maybe we can post the whole thing here. Beats me. __________________

08-23-2006	#2
Frills Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 481 Rep Power: 0	Which is why if DD doesn't make it back it might be better for the Texans. At least Lundy held someone versus the DD nonexistant blitz pickups. Missing all practices, and never having the desire to help protect Carr, he should be buried for the first 6 weeks on the PuP list

08-23-2006	#3
eric138 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 38 Posts: 301 Rep Power: 15	Lundy?? We must have watched different games. I just re-watched the game lastnight looking for certain details and Lundy was blind to End's running right by him. When they put Morency in things changed and you saw him cutting anyone who even thought about getting close to Carr. Lundy will pick this up and prove to be the best but right now I think Morency is on top.

08-23-2006	#12
Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	About the whole DD average back thing: Dominic Davis was a very average back, stats-wise, but he was one of the only Texans success stories last year. (Read: not a story of failure.) The idea, IMO, was that the Denver running game would really improve DD's running game. However, he has lost a lot of time and training due to his injury, and this is why Morency is being considered. I think that unless Davis' injury keeps him out the rest of the season/Morency becomes a top-tier back, then DD has a good shot of returning as the Texans starting RB. It may take a few additional weeks of rehab, but he still has a good shot.

08-23-2006	#18
Divebomb Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 33 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 7	I think bashing DD is kinda lame but expected. The guy deserves more credit, I do agree that Morency should be they man this year but there is now way as a fan that I am going to ripp on DD. He will get through this tough time, he is still young and has worked very hard to get back. Morency is probably going to get the nodd for this year, and Lundy will earn a paycheck as well. Overall I think what looked like a drama filled offseason at the running back position has turned into a real +.

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