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Old 08-21-2006   #1
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Here is what I got. Feel free to discuss and let me know what you think.

Coaches 30 seconds to go and goes for another score. Again one of the reasons I feel we will win at least four games due to coaching alone. We all know what the previous staff would've asked Carr to do and that is take knee and head to the lockers. No, Kubiak says hey Carr has to learn this situation and allows him to play. Nice A+

Receivers Not much here. Andre settled down and was awesome in the last part of the first half. Wish I could've seen more from someone else. DLew had a nice grab. B+

TE- Saw what Putzier can do and Joppru had a decent couple of catches. Not many balls thrown that way B

FBJopp can play here, Cook is a better receiver than I thought but there wasn't a whole lot to see in the blocking dept. B-

RBLundy showed he is a rookie and still inconsistent. Morency did great and was a relieved breathe of fresh air . I'd like to see him start this week to see if he can be consistent. A

OLStill hasn't given up sacks when last year at this time they probably already had like eight. Running game looked nice but they still kept Carr kind of jittery.A

QBCarr started poorly but settled down and played well despite the early struggle. Did nice in the 30 second driver for the FG and if not for Kris Brown miss would've put 3 nice scoring drives together. I won't cry if Rosenfels ever for any reason has to come in and play.
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DL- If you watched the game you know Mario answered questions but ESPN won't admit it. T. Johnson has been the only DT this year. Peek want's the start. B

LB- Another solid game by Ryans. Greenwood showed up and Cowart makes for good depth. B-(only cuz there wasn't spectacular stuff.)

DBsSuspect. That is all I can say here. After Dunta there isn't really anything going. Mccleon gives us nice depth but nothing great. His speed is used nicely though. Buchannon had a decent game but showed he still has a long way to go. CC Brown is not a cover guy. If Earl is, let's move him over to CC's spot and give Stone the start. C-

ST - Buch showed up and it should be his spot to lose. Kris Brown has to go. Buch is the only reason this group did not get an F. C-
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An F for special teams...get...outta...town....Our special teams were atleast a b-..even with kris browns missed kick...
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I can't disagree with you for the most part. I think our Defense will wear down teams with our depth. Kubiak will manage the game through Carr and not allow us to give away the game by making mental mistakes on the offensive side of the game.
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An F for special teams...get...outta...town....Our special teams were atleast a b-..even with kris browns missed kick...
I didn't put it in there because he is usually nails but Stanley didn't do as good a job punting. PBuch's returns brought up the ST but when your kicker misses another easy FG it is not easy to grade out good.
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I didn't put it in there because he is usually nails but Stanley didn't do as good a job punting. PBuch's returns brought up the ST but when your kicker misses another easy FG it is not easy to grade out good.
Thats true, But you also have to look at how good we covered kick offs and punts....We didn't really give guys a lot of wiggle room...Good blocking on XP and FG's...Buchanon was solid/borderline electric... and didn't McCleon have a blocked FG ?...
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I think that was a reasonable scorecard all together. my personal niggles, you rated the WRs a little higher than you should've, Special teams a little lower, and PBuch was our best Corner....... PI and all.
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the special teams as a unit...im giving them an A. they were simply spectacular in kickoff coverage, constantly bursting through the lines and forcing the rams starting field position on their side of the 20 yard line. mccleon had the field goal block. kris brown sucks and he missed a chipshot yet again. he is the only reason why i didnt give the special teams an A+.
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the special teams as a unit...im giving them an A. they were simply spectacular in kickoff coverage, constantly bursting through the lines and forcing the rams starting field position on their side of the 20 yard line. mccleon had the field goal block. kris brown sucks and he missed a chipshot yet again. he is the only reason why i didnt give the special teams an A+.
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[quote=thunderkyss]I think that was a reasonable scorecard all together. my personal niggles, you rated the WRs a little higher than you should've, Special teams a little lower, and PBuch was our best Corner....... PI and all.[/QUOTE]

I don't know if I would say that much. He made a couple decent plays as well as a couple mental mistakes. St. Louis tried to exploit him and his mistakes. Hence the reason they threw to his side so often. They tried D-Rob side early on and found that PBuch was the weakest link. Yes, he did ok, but IMO being picked on doesn't make him the better corner.
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Weren't there some issues with the FBs in the pass blocking department?
I haven't rewatched the game, but it seemed like there were some breakdowns in that area.
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Weren't there some issues with the FBs in the pass blocking department?
I haven't rewatched the game, but it seemed like there were some breakdowns in that area.
I have watched the game twice. Although I was not looking for it, it did not leap out at me like others have commented.
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I think that was a reasonable scorecard all together. my personal niggles, you rated the WRs a little higher than you should've, Special teams a little lower, and PBuch was our best Corner....... PI and all.
I don't know if I would say that much. He made a couple decent plays as well as a couple mental mistakes. St. Louis tried to exploit him and his mistakes. Hence the reason they threw to his side so often. They tried D-Rob side early on and found that PBuch was the weakest link. Yes, he did ok, but IMO being picked on doesn't make him the better corner.
the only mistake he made, was that first PI..... other than that, he did everything we wanted him to do...... it is true he played more than DRob, and he was picked on, so he had more opportunities to play.

But DRob I thought wasn't all that. There was that pass he got turned around in the endzone. If Bulger wasn't threw that ball where Bruce could make a play, instead of out of bounds, that's a touchdown. Then there were a couple of others, where DRob wasn't in any position to make a play on the ball, or the man had Bulger not overthrown, underthrown his reciever.....
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I love the way PBuch is playing. He had two interferance calls. One was the face guarding call, but the other was really questionable. Put him on the field with adequate pressure from the first team, and lets see how he handles the role. I think he will end up starting, as McCleon is so slow!
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whats the status of lewis sanders?
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My major concern is the fact that Carr and the 1st string offense could not do anything against the 1st string STL's deffense. They only scored after STL's 2nd string deffense was on the field. I know its preseason and they played more a more stationary offense but it appeared to me that Carr could not handle the pressure and backed up into his first sack instead of steping up in the pocket and buying a little more time as he has done in the past.

In my opinion Carr should have become a very successful QB with proper coaching and protection. 4 years of bad coaching or lack there of and running for his life and not being able to grow has ruined him and his confidence and I dont know if this is repairable.

I'm not ready to drop the hammer but if Carr can not handle the pressure within the 1st few regular season games than Ros looks like a very formatible repalcement.

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My major concern is the fact that Carr and the 1st string offense could not do anything against the 1st string STL's deffense. They only scored after STL's 2nd string deffense was on the field. I know its preseason and they played more a more stationary offense but it appeared to me that Carr could not handle the pressure and backed up into his first sack instead of steping up in the pocket and buying a little more time as he has done in the past.

In my opinion Carr should have become a very successful QB with proper coaching and protection. 4 years of bad coaching or lack there of and running for his life and not being able to grow has ruined him and his confidence and I dont know if this is repairable.

I'm not ready to drop the hammer but if Carr can not handle the pressure within the 1st few regular season games than Ros looks like a very formatible repalcement.

Your thoughts please!
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You know, I forgot about the block FG. Okay C+. Anytime points get taken off the board you got to grade down hardcore. If we want to go from a losing team to a winning team. These kinds of things need to be automatic. I've been down for Brown but the dude is consistently missing now.
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i still think u arent seeing the big picture. all we need to do is find another kicker. theres plenty of them. ur grading special teams as a whole as a C+, which is a poor assessment. the other guys had nothing to do with brown missing.
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Everyone seems to be praising our DL depth, but I wasn't all that impressed watching our backups in the 3rd & 4th. Rams 2nd string O scored 2 TD's in the second qtr and seemed to have all day to throw the ball.
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My major concern is the fact that Carr and the 1st string offense could not do anything against the 1st string STL's deffense. They only scored after STL's 2nd string deffense was on the field. I know its preseason and they played more a more stationary offense but it appeared to me that Carr could not handle the pressure and backed up into his first sack instead of steping up in the pocket and buying a little more time as he has done in the past.

In my opinion Carr should have become a very successful QB with proper coaching and protection. 4 years of bad coaching or lack there of and running for his life and not being able to grow has ruined him and his confidence and I dont know if this is repairable.

I'm not ready to drop the hammer but if Carr can not handle the pressure within the 1st few regular season games than Ros looks like a very formatible repalcement.

Your thoughts please!

IT's very rare that any NFL team will score on every opening drive. If a team has got a streak going, where they do, they'll be sure to flash it across the screen, and make a big deal about it.

Same the other way. If a team is constantly giving up points on their first defensive stand, they make a little to do about it.
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