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Old 08-18-2006   #1
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Here's an article written every year that we probably don't pay much attention to. It discusses cut blocks in zone blocking style offenses and points out how Houston will be one of the 4 NFL teams using it this season. If we are successful at running the ball this year get ready for the trolls. They will be here in full force calling the Texans cheaters among other things...

Cut out zone blocking? Not in points-crazy NFL

The thing about it is, all teams use cut blocks. Mario was cut on at least two plays last Saturday. Certain teams get singled out more than others because they are successful at it. Let's hope we have the same problem this season.
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Certain teams get singled out more than others because they are successful at it.
Exactly right - Denver gets noticed because of their success and a couple of injuries. If they had a poor running game no one would notice.
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Line up the whiners for next season.

If we cheat, I'm sure the refs will call it and we'll get our penalty
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"If you're not cheatin', you're not tryin'." - Pimp in the box paraphrasing someone else.
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Cut blocking is part of the game but I understand how defenders hate it and think it cheap.

Either way, you don't have a lot of grounds for complaining about one team doing it, when you can do it yourself ...
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This guy is a joke, he's a beat writer for the Jacksonville Jaguars, hmm I wonder what his real intentions were behind this article.
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That's the most pansy excuse a defensive lineman can give. "I can't play cause they are trying to cut me." Defensive players deal with cut blocks in grade school, and if ya practice at it...it's fairly easy to counter a cut block. It becomes second nature to throw that arm out in front before the lineman can get at your knees. Look at the Mario Williams highlights. They said one of his problems was that he was getting cut too much. D-linemen practice taking on the cut block, and they have for a very long time.
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The problem........ who says we'll be cutblocking?? In our preseason opener, there wasn't really a lot of cutblocking.










Then I guess it depends on what you consider a lot.
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I'm particularly fond of the implicit whine here. The one that isn't quite stated, but seems to be complaining that offenses won't practice cutting against their own players.

What a ridiculous argument. I guess we should stop trying to get pressure on the QB, because we can't hit them in practice.
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Hey it's only cheating if you get caught!!!
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I think that Mike Peirera had the best take on it...it's legal with in certain situations and when it's not executed in the prescribed manner it will be flagged.

I've been cut before and also benefitted from my linemen cutting folks in HS and college. It's just part of the game, albeit with a higher risk of injury than some other allowed techniques.
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"If you're not cheatin', you're not tryin'." - Pimp in the box paraphrasing someone else.
I believe that quote came from Victor Conte to Marion Jones.
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The eagles have started practicing this technique as well so the Texans won't be alone. This was taken from the eagles reporter Shane Evans august 14th practice blog

One of the coolest things about training camp this year, is that the coaches always seem to have the players working on something different, covering every angle of the game. Today's new lesson was cut blocking. It looked like a gymnastics school with all the safety mattresses set up. On top of the mattresses was a dummy that the players would rush into and practice their cutting technique. Cutting hasn't been a strategy used by the Eagles that much, but it's always good to practice. The wide receivers were also practicing this drill.
-- Shane Evans, 8:15 a.m.
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I had to chime in on this one. The ONLY time I feel that a cut block is cheap is when its done to someone that has no chance on making a play on the ball. Basicly just when you take a cheap shot on someone that could end up costing the guy his carrer.


Beside that hrm no blood no flag?
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Line up the whiners for next season.

If we cheat, I'm sure the refs will call it and we'll get our penalty

I'm studying to be an Official in Nebraska (Go Longhorns ) this year. There is a free blocking zone were almost anything goes. (ie legel blocking below the waist, legel clipping, legel blocking in the back...) That is the area between the tackles and 3yd in front of and behind the line of scrimage. You can't call it cheating because its in the rules. If it is in the rules let them play (I guess I'm saying that because it favors my team)
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Could someone please explain how zone blocking works, in detail. I read the article and am still having a little trouble understanding exactly what happens in a zone blocking scheme. Thanks
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Could someone please explain how zone blocking works, in detail. I read the article and am still having a little trouble understanding exactly what happens in a zone blocking scheme. Thanks
basicly, instead of having a player to block(LB, DE, DT), the lineman has a area they must block. This why they don't get confused on blitz and stunts
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The Houston Cheaters sounds like a country & western band.

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The Houston Cheaters sounds like a country & western band.

I played in that band. We opened for the Telstars a few times.

I'm joking.

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