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Old 08-14-2006   #1
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Default How bout that O-Line!

As iv'e said in a couple posts this year I had 3 concerns:

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2) Secondary

3) LB/runstopping

Well I'm not too worried about the O-Line now, they really did good, even well into the depth chart. 0 sacks says a lot. I wasnt too sure about the zone blocking but I thought that was impressive also. Sherman is obviously making an impact. hopefully mckinney can come back strong and make it even better depth. I'm excited about the future!
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Ok....I guess I should have made another Carr thread lol
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As iv'e said in a couple posts this year I had 3 concerns:

1) O-line

2) Secondary

3) LB/runstopping

Well I'm not too worried about the O-Line now, they really did good, even well into the depth chart. 0 sacks says a lot. I wasnt too sure about the zone blocking but I thought that was impressive also. Sherman is obviously making an impact. hopefully mckinney can come back strong and make it even better depth. I'm excited about the future!
As it is still quite early to be saying I'm not worried about out line. I tend to agree with you. They played really well. Maybe some had to do with KC looking bad too, who knows? I don't think the secondary was really even tested to say good or bad. I agree with you on our LB crew. DeMecco looked good on some plays and on others he was a typical rook. I think he'll progress rapidly into an elite LB. We need our Sam and Will to step it up, period.
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o line did well..............
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Yes, they really did perform well, but I'll wait until the regular season to judge the improvement. 4 years of horror don't get swept away by a preseason game against a team with a poor DL.
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KC has been a scoring monster for some time now, and the fact they didn't march right over us answers some the defensive questions on the post. As for their not looking crisp, and the it's only pre-season, we are all in the same boat, so on the curve, We Won and I am walking proud-talking loud and drawing a crowd that wants to listen to my Texans are great rant.
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Well I'm not too worried about the O-Line now, they really did good, even well into the depth chart. 0 sacks says a lot. I wasnt too sure about the zone blocking but I thought that was impressive also. Sherman is obviously making an impact. hopefully mckinney can come back strong and make it even better depth. I'm excited about the future!
They did play well, but I am waiting to see a team gameplan for our weaknesses. I saw an interview with Edwards where I felt he was stating that the Chiefs didn't plan to attack the Texans weaknesses. That their whole game plan was based seeing specific players perform in certain plays. Like, calling the powersweep to see if O-Line blocks the correct assignment, not "Houston tends to shift to the weakside on 2 and short, run the powersweep"

I hope the distinction is clear and I my example makes sense.
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Amen. And I hope that Kubiak was also doing a bit of the same work that Herman did. It will pay off dividends in the long run. Of course, there is something to say for generating confidence in a group of players who have never had a winning season, and even a play-off win will help in that area.
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They did play well, but I am waiting to see a team gameplan for our weaknesses. I saw an interview with Edwards where I felt he was stating that the Chiefs didn't plan to attack the Texans weaknesses. That their whole game plan was based seeing specific players perform in certain plays. Like, calling the powersweep to see if O-Line blocks the correct assignment, not "Houston tends to shift to the weakside on 2 and short, run the powersweep"

I hope the distinction is clear and I my example makes sense.
I tend to agree here. Especially in week 1 of preseason, the term used most often is 'vanilla' defense. You get the base defensive package and obviously they didn't game plan for bootlegs, even after we kept running them.

The most optimistic thing I saw was on the Wali Lundy 25 yard run, they had a great review of the play from the end zone camera which really showed the C, RG, and RT trucking lanes on that sweep. It was very encouraging to see that mobility from the OL. If you look at the blocking lanes on that view, it is pretty encouraging, not to mention the end result.

I'll have to go back and check (luvin' the tivo), but I don't remember a lot of KC blitzing with Carr on the field. The line seemed to hold the pocket well.

Defensively, the interior run could not be stopped by the defense, which is kind of scary. I'd like to have seen Cowart play the middle and DeMeco on the weak side against a starting unit to see how that combo works. I think Cowart is a better MLB run stuffer. Greenwood has never made a play of any substance.

Mario's performance I think is something that has to develop over the tide of an entire game. When the OL starts to tire a little, the speed rusher and strength late in the game really ought to be a bigger factor. A few series isn't enough to gauge his effectiveness over what will be an entire game, in particular when someone has the kind of skills he has. I'll look for meaningful impact in weeks 1-4 from him, and I bet his late game effectiveness is much better than early game.
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If ever a team needed a preseason, this one does.

Not only to get a "winning feeling" back, but to try and get the new offense and defense down. David Carr needs all the confidence he can get, and the new players need to "jell" with the rest of the team.
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I wish we didn't have the eagles and colts first. But it will be interesting to watch.
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i thought the line looked great as well. granted, we were going against a very basic defensive scheme (almost no blitzing) and a relatively weak defensive line, but our big uglies were very dominant. every other season, we've failed to even slow down a 3-man rush in junk time, so this is a major step. not only were there no sacks, there were no hurries, and only once did a defensive player even come in contact with our qb's (a DE managed to get fingertips on carr's left shoulder as he passed by). the run game was pretty impressive as well, but you could really tell that they still need to gel on the zone blocking scheme. two guys really stood out to me, flanagan & spencer. flanagan just looked incredible, he did get pushed back once, but on every other play he was a brick wall ... on lundy's TD run, flanagan's pushing a DT through the endzone before lundy gets there. spencer also looked like a monster on rushing downs, but had a few miscues with his feet. once he gets his legs under him, spencer's going to be a stud.
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I wish we didn't have the eagles and colts first. But it will be interesting to watch.

I am glad we play the Eagles and then the Colts when we go 2-0 this city will be pumped up and Reliant will be ROCKIN
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I didn't get to see the game, so pardon me asking, but how did Charles Spencer look?
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I didn't get to see the game, so pardon me asking, but how did Charles Spencer look?
Generally Spencer looked good against the Chiefs second team. He didn't get to play the 1st team.
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Generally Spencer looked against the Chiefs second team. He didn't get to play the 1st team.
Thanks.

How about Eric Winston? How'd he perform and did he play with the first teamers?
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Thanks.

How about Eric Winston? How'd he perform and did he play with the first teamers?
Again, All second teamers. I didn't notice any glaring problems with either one. I'm cautiously optimistic about Spencer and Winston.
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Again, All second teamers. I didn't notice any glaring problems with either one. I'm cautiously optimistic about Spencer and Winston.
That's a plus. Granted, it's only one pre-season game, but baby steps are baby steps.

I'm like you. I'm cautiously optimistic about both. I think Spencer's one of those diamonds in the rough that could turn out becoming much better than his draft spot. As for Winston, I'm not going to use the term "Franchise Guy" to define him, but if he's able to maintain health, he's certainly the type of guy you build an O-Line around.
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How about Eric Winston? How'd he perform and did he play with the first teamers?
i didnt notice winston even in the game, which might be a good thing. spencer did stand out to me though probably because i focused more on the left side. i havent gotten a chance to rewatch the game yet, but on several plays i noticed spencer manhandle the end that came his way. he was a little sluggish on a few passing plays, but once he got his hands on the defender, it was over. on running plays, the same was the case because of his obvious girth & strength, but his explosion off the ball was very impressive. if he keeps improving his feet and his timing, spencer really could make for an overwhelming left tackle in a couple years. if wand doesnt find a mean streak real quick, he's going to lose his job with the first team.
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i didnt notice winston even in the game, which might be a good thing.
There was only a couple of points that I really noticed him. I've only watched the full game once, the first quarter 3x and the second quarter 2x. But... I remember a play early in the 4th quarter where there was a bumbled reverse or something and Winston was just standing there in open space like he didn't know what to do while the wideout was trying to dodge a couple of Chefs. That was the only time I noticed him.
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