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Old 08-13-2006   #1
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So, how would you grade Mario's 1st performace?
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C- against the position he was drafted in. But, like Carr, Kris Brown, and some of the others that are being roasted, it's very early, and the sample was small. Hopefully, he will continue to improve every day. That's all we can ask for at this time. Sooner or later though, he has to produce in a big way to justify his selection.
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We need to be prepared for an entire season of this. Mario's impact will not be seen in the boxscore or on Sportscenter. He'll get his fair share of sacks, but he won't have the gaudy numbers we all would like him to have. The Reggie Bush disciples will troll our MB all season crowing about Bush's punt return yards and his 5 carries for no gain followed by 1 carry for 40 yards (all the way to yet another losing season).

His dominance will be there, but it will be hard to quantify.
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I thought that you said you weren't gonna stir crap up in any other thread than the "Just wanted to say thanks" thread post #36.

I'm all good with stirring up a little trouble just for troubles sake...but you need to watch your steps around here diehard...or the mods will get a hold of you and you'll "die-quickly!"
My thread got deleted. That was the only place I said I would post.

Hey, I just asked how yall would grade his performance. That's all.

Personally, I'd give him an F.
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``I kind of got too excited and that made me get a little tired,'' Williams said. ``But I was not nervous at all.''
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I'm just going by what the guy said, but it sounds like he got tired and realized he has a lot to learn. I wouldn't think that is what you would want to hear from the #1 pick in the draft.....but that's just me.

By the way, Reggie looked great to us. He wasn't nervous at all, I think he likes the spotlight....he seems to shine in it.
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I know you posted that...I quoted it.

I just found it very thought provoking. Don't you?

Is anyone concerned that Kyle Turley hasn't played in the NFL for two years, but he could handle MW by himself? I'd be concerned.
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I think I will start a thread:

How do you rate the Saints' 80 Million backfield so far?

So far I will give them an F for not scoring enough points to win their first pre-season game.
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Well...
If you took time to copy/paste a quote from my thread, then you should have taken the time to read my thoughts on it.
Just FYI...take the of your head and the screen will come in a lot more clearly!
You didn't have any thoughts on it. You just posted a bunch of quotes.
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I think I will start a thread:

How do you rate the Saints' 80 Million backfield so far?

So far I will give them an F for not scoring enough points to win their first pre-season game.
I take it that you are pleased with Mario's performance?
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Every rookie has alot to learn and so does Reggie Bush. Reggie is going to have to learn that he's not going to be able to live on the outside in the NFL, he's going to have to learn how to run it up the middle. He didn't really do squat in the middle and everytime he got the ball he looked for a way to cut to the outside. Granted he got a big run on the outside, but a back that goes for, 1 yard, 3 yards, 2 yards, then maybe a 25 yard run on the outside isn't consistent enough to sustain long crucial drives in the 4th, thats the reason he was on the sideline on the crucial play in the 4th of the title game. Bush needs to learn to pick up the tough yards. I know you have Duece this year for that, but your not going to be able to afford two 50 million dollar backs and you can't pay a guy 50 million dollars to be a short yardage 3rd down back either, Duece will be moved in the near future.
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Wouldn't have posted the thread if I didn't think it was positive and worthy of a look.

Seriously dude...taking the bag off will help!
Wow! So those are the "thoughts" you were referring to? I'm sorry, I expect thoughts to be a little more elaborate than that. Yes, I did read your "thoughts".
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Also you can't compare Bush to Mario, they play on different sides of the ball and play two different positions. We're going to have to compare wins.
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Also you can't compare Bush to Mario, they play on different sides of the ball and play two different positions. We're going to have to compare wins.
I wasn't comparing the two, I just wanted to know how would you grade Mario's performance....that's all.
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My thread got deleted. That was the only place I said I would post.

Hey, I just asked how yall would grade his performance. That's all.

Personally, I'd give him an F.

Your thread wasn't deleted. It was moved to the NFL boards since it really wasn't a Texans thread.

Personally, I am happy the Texans took Williams. I love defense and wanted this team to build around a dominant defensive player. That being said, I would grade Mario as an incomplete so far. It is too early to tell what is going to happen. I think his skills and physical attributes will keep him from being a flop. His drive is what is going to make him a star. Does he have that? It's too soon to tell.

I'm glad you are happy with Reggie Bush. He is going to be a wonderful running back and should be exciting to watch. I don't think he would have been a good fit in this system. He seems to like to dance and juke. I don't know if he could have molded himself into a one cut runner.
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I take it that you are pleased with Mario's performance?

Being it was his first pre-season game as a rookie and not being able to break down each single down and know what the coaches calls were.....I would give him a C+, considering the learning curve, him moving to DT a time or two, and playing more than one "spot". It's hard from the camera angle to see the numbers on the players back and follow him to whatever the strong side is for that particular play.

It is important to note that D-Line aren't going to get noticed quite as much as other positions, it is not a "sexy" position unless they are getting sacks. Sometimes their job is to draw a double team, or contain a run play, stretch a play out to the sideline and give your LB's time to run it down.

Of course I am just an avid fan, you really want to know how he is doing then follow the depth chart up to the season opener, because I am certain about one thing, Kubiak will put the best 11 on the field. Mario will be a dominant force for a long time, but it doesn't always happen overnight. So IMHO there are alot of factors to consider.
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You might be right, Bush may not be the right back for your system.

I hope Mario turns out to be a good fit for your system.
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``I kind of got too excited and that made me get a little tired,'' Williams said. ``But I was not nervous at all.''
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I'm just going by what the guy said, but it sounds like he got tired and realized he has a lot to learn. I wouldn't think that is what you would want to hear from the #1 pick in the draft.....but that's just me.

By the way, Reggie looked great to us. He wasn't nervous at all, I think he likes the spotlight....he seems to shine in it.
Hey TOOLhard being the player scout that I know you are, you would know that RB's have an easier time converting to the NFL. But of course you already know this. By the way, why don't you go buy some buckets and start bailing water out of the SuperDome I think you guys have a pitty primetime game.
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I wasn't comparing the two, I just wanted to know how would you grade Mario's performance....that's all.
I wasn't saying you did
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