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Old 08-08-2006   #1
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I hope the media is mistaken on this.
We draft Mario because, he's huge and fast. Quick off the ball.
Now, I hear we are going to play him on the inside? at DT?
If true, this is moronic. We take the best DE in college, and turn him into a tackle? Why? Because Weaver, Babin, and Peek need reps?
I hope this is just a bad rumor.
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I hope the media is mistaken on this.
We draft Mario because, he's huge and fast. Quick off the ball.
Now, I hear we are going to play him on the inside? at DT?
If true, this is moronic. We take the best DE in college, and turn him into a tackle? Why? Because Weaver, Babin, and Peek need reps?
I hope this is just a bad rumor.

From what I heard, we'll move him around a good bit on passing downs.... both to get Peek and Babin on the field and to prevent the offense from doubling him too easily
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Babin Weaver Williams Peek sounds like a pretty nasty DL on third downs
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From what I heard, we'll move him around a good bit on passing downs.... both to get Peek and Babin on the field and to prevent the offense from doubling him too easily
......and to create mismatches
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I hope the media is mistaken on this.
We draft Mario because, he's huge and fast. Quick off the ball.
Now, I hear we are going to play him on the inside? at DT?
If true, this is moronic. We take the best DE in college, and turn him into a tackle? Why? Because Weaver, Babin, and Peek need reps?
I hope this is just a bad rumor.
I know its seems dom caperish, but rest assure the majority of his snaps will be at end
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I hope the media is mistaken on this.
We draft Mario because, he's huge and fast. Quick off the ball.
Now, I hear we are going to play him on the inside? at DT?
If true, this is moronic. We take the best DE in college, and turn him into a tackle? Why? Because Weaver, Babin, and Peek need reps?
I hope this is just a bad rumor.
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Babin Weaver Williams Peek sounds like a pretty nasty DL on third downs
OK, but you're still takin Mario off the edge. And this guy is supposed to be a pass rusher supreme. Where do you play that kind of talent ?
On the edge of course, not inside. Oh I know Mario is considerd a good run
stopper, but that's not the reason we took him #1 overall.
I dunno, but if having both Peek and Babin on the field together and burying Mario on the middle is a trade-off you prefer over keeping just one of the them along with Mario on the outside, I dunno how I feel about that ?
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The Texans think that Mario Williams can play any position along the defensive line. There are quotes you can find from around draft time when the Texans were trying to say that Mario was as versitle(sp) on defense as Bush on offense.
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As already stated on nickel or obvious passing downs, Mario will move inside sometimes. Now if he has been killing the guy blocking him all day then he will stay outside, but Mario, Weaver, Peek, and Babin in on nickel and dime packages makes for one hell of a pass rush. Mario is also very versatile. He will be used the same way Ju. Pep is used in Carolina. His main responsiblity will be to get to the QB, but some downs he will be asked to hold the point, drop into coverage, or cover a RB/TE. He is that good and that fast.
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The Texans think that Mario Williams can play any position along the defensive line. There are quotes you can find from around draft time when the Texans were trying to say that Mario was as versitle(sp) on defense as Bush on offense.
There have been soo many posts, but Kube cam right out and said from the beginning you will see him participating at all positions on the Dline. Nothing wrong with that.

Here is one thing I am sure you will see when you put Mario in the middle is a corner or a safety blitzing from the outside to push the QB or RB back to the middle to hesitate for 1 second and Mario will be there for the sack.
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As already stated on nickel or obvious passing downs, Mario will move inside sometimes. Now if he has been killing the guy blocking him all day then he will stay outside, but Mario, Weaver, Peek, and Babin in on nickel and dime packages makes for one hell of a pass rush. Mario is also very versatile. He will be used the same way Ju. Pep is used in Carolina. His main responsiblity will be to get to the QB, but some downs he will be asked to hold the point, drop into coverage, or cover a RB/TE. He is that good and that fast.

not to mention of they work in some stunts Mario may start inside but his speed will allow him to pull around the DE and mess up blocking assignments leaving a possible hole in the middle for the LB to shoot. result SACK!!! FUMBLE!!! RETURNED FOR TD!!!
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When you think of the fact that Peek and Babin have been able to drop back to cover because of their previous experience in the 3-4, it makes perfect sense because then you never know who is rushing and who is dropping back.
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Mike Flannigan after the morning practice said on 610 am that Babin and Peek were putting out gigantic effort at TC--seemed impressed with both of them.
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If you always line Williams up at the same spot, he'll get double/triple teamed and make him a non-factor. Moving him around keeps the enemy offense guessing, and as mentioned, creates mismatches that can and will be exploited by our defense.

Think of the confusion it creates when Mario is on the left this play, and on the right the next. Teams will have to focus so much on preparing their linemen to deal with him that it will allow the rest of our defenders to take advantage of the confusion. I like it.
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He will play a lot of tackle on passing downs. It's been discussed many times since draft day. I think moving him around is a good plan. A static target is always easier to shoot than a moving target.
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If you always line Williams up at the same spot, he'll get double/triple teamed and make him a non-factor.
Gotta disagree with you on that one DB. If Williams could continually tie up 2,
certainly 3 blockers he'd be a huge positive factor for the Texans.
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Gotta disagree with you on that one DB. If Williams could continually tie up 2,
certainly 3 blockers he'd be a huge positive factor for the Texans.
While this is true, it could also logjam and keep other defenders from getting to the ball.

But I thought the same thing you mentioned, that tying up three blockers with one defender would be a great thing. However, it depends on the specific type of play and where it's going, as well as if the rest of our defense can take advantage of the situation.

We had no pressure on the pocket in the past, and our run stopping ability was non-existent, so the jury is still out if they can exploit these potential double teams on MW.
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Babin Weaver Williams Peek sounds like a pretty nasty DL on third downs
I hurt, just thinking about it....
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not to mention of they work in some stunts Mario may start inside but his speed will allow him to pull around the DE and mess up blocking assignments leaving a possible hole in the middle for the LB to shoot. result SACK!!! FUMBLE!!! RETURNED FOR TD!!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that... Kudos, and rep to you.
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