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RTP2110 · 07-16-2006

Does anyone think we have a good chance at having a surprising season this year? We have Kubiak coming in as a 1st year head coach like Miami had Saban last year. Both have high drafte picks with Williams and Brown. Hopefully we can have a great season and win 7-9 games.

NoBullTexan · 07-16-2006

Why not? We will be 8-8, or better.

Tailgate · 07-16-2006

There is no better time to have high hopes than now.

aj. · 07-16-2006

3-7 after Week 11 is a possibility. It's that 6 game winning streak to end the season that's going to be tough.

aj. · 07-16-2006

Well, this was a good thread while it lasted.

wags · 07-16-2006

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Well, this was a good thread while it lasted.

Yep. Someone just poured gasoline all over it and it's about to catch fire.

YoungTexanFan · 07-16-2006

I feel most of miamis sucess was built on youth, heart, and a fast defense. We are working on all three, but the last one being able to completely do it's job as Miami's defense did last year will be the key IMO. Of course we do have one of their D-cordinators who says he wants to be agressive.

aj. · 07-16-2006

And hopefully he learned something from Saban because it was Saban's defense he was co-implementing.

NATHANHALE · 07-16-2006

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Originally Posted by YoungTexanFan

I feel most of miamis sucess was built on youth, heart, and a fast defense. We are working on all three, but the last one being able to completely do it's job as Miami's defense did last year will be the key IMO. Of course we do have one of their D-cordinators who says he wants to be agressive.

...and they have Capers--could be interesting. Will he rebound?

Bobo · 07-16-2006

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Originally Posted by RTP2110

Does anyone think we have a good chance at having a surprising season this year? We have Kubiak coming in as a 1st year head coach like Miami had Saban last year. Both have high drafte picks with Williams and Brown. Hopefully we can have a great season and win 7-9 games.

No.

Hutch13 · 07-17-2006

I think we definetly have a chance of becoming the Dolphins, we have that mix of youth and veterans. I Think some of this will be because David Carr will finally prove why he is chosen number one. Eric Mould will have 700 yards and 6 touchdowns

**mexican_texan** · 07-17-2006

Why the Dolphins? I'm hoping for the 2004 Chargers. An underperforming QB(Brees/Carr) and unexpected TE(Gates/Joppru) break out and have a large part in turning around the worst team in the NFL to a playoff team.

threetoedpete · 07-17-2006

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Originally Posted by RTP2110

Does anyone think we have a good chance at having a surprising season this year? We have Kubiak coming in as a 1st year head coach like Miami had Saban last year. Both have high drafte picks with Williams and Brown. Hopefully we can have a great season and win 7-9 games.

They up set philly, all things are possible. Agree with A.J., this thing could get real nasty really fast if they don't. Going to a new defense, offense, and we have a brutal opening scedule. Not saing it can't be done...but a lot of players are going to have to step up befor it does. The only positive that I see is we got a decent bye this year.

TwinSisters · 07-17-2006

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would be nice. but you still have Carr. i wonder if he can become the QB everyone thuoght he could be under Kubiak ??

well then, we would end up just like the 05' Dolphins. New coach, new DE, pretty good turnaround, but didn't have a quarterback worth a damn. In fact they had a quarterback that was still riding his one and only decent season... which consequently was his third. Odd as it may seem, Kubiak didn't work wonders with him in Denver either.
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Interesting Dolphins trivia... since the merger they have had only 3 losing seasons. 35 seasons and only three of them finishing as losers

76 - 6-8
88 - 6-10
04 - 4-12

Haven't had a number one overall since they started. And last year's Ronnie Brown was their highest pick at 2nd overall since 66.

Dolphins, Texans... I am not sure about that.

jagibelieve · 07-17-2006

As they say all the time "Any Given Sunday". After saying that though, it's very tough in the current league to be successful after major changes.

**Texans_Chick** · 07-17-2006

For me, I think the best comparison between the Texans/Dolphins might be the sort of season we might face. Last years Dolphins had a horrible start. They had a hard time learning the 3-4 defense (it is easier learning 4-3 than a 3-4).

And then they started winning.

With our schedule, it is quite possible that we could have a similar slow start changing stuff on both sides of the ball.

**Kaiser Toro** · 07-17-2006

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Originally Posted by TwinSisters

well then, we would end up just like the 05' Dolphins. New coach, new DE, pretty good turnaround, but didn't have a quarterback worth a damn. In fact they had a quarterback that was still riding his one and only decent season... which consequently was his third. Odd as it may seem, Kubiak didn't work wonders with him in Denver either.
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Interesting Dolphins trivia... since the merger they have had only 3 losing seasons. 35 seasons and only three of them finishing as losers

76 - 6-8
88 - 6-10
04 - 4-12

Haven't had a number one overall since they started. And last year's Ronnie Brown was their highest pick at 2nd overall since 66.

Dolphins, Texans... I am not sure about that.

You mean they rarely spend money on unproven talent? Never have thought that would work as a formula for success.

**Hookem Horns** · 07-17-2006

I saw this thread and thought 72 Dolphins. I think that would be a stretch.

Texans Horror · 07-17-2006

The possibility is there because Houston has a system that can turn an average back into a dominant running game. Instead of having one credible pass threat, teams are going to have to go between Moulds and Johnson. TE help (for once) will really open up the passing game.

So I think the Texans have the potential for great offense, something they haven't ever had.

The defense cannot be worse than it was last year. P-Buc is showing great signs of improvement, and the front seven have been upgraded in almost every way imaginable.

The shift to the 4-3, having Sherman on the line, and with Kubiak at the helm, this has the potential of being a really good team this year. It's not like in years past when the fans had to wonder what was really going on in management's head.

There are still a lot of questions, but I think chances are that the Texans could improve vastly, the way the Dolphins did last year, and the way many teams have done in the past four years. In 2002, the Jags were 6-10, Cinci 2-14, and Tennessee and Oakland were 11-5. The Texans are primed to turn this around.

KingRat · 07-17-2006

...they go 10 & 6, if they lose, they go 6 & 10, simple as that

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RTP2110 Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Shore Age: 33 Posts: 2,782 Rep Power: 1845	Can The Texans Be This Year's Miami Dolphins? Does anyone think we have a good chance at having a surprising season this year? We have Kubiak coming in as a 1st year head coach like Miami had Saban last year. Both have high drafte picks with Williams and Brown. Hopefully we can have a great season and win 7-9 games.

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NoBullTexan Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Jersey Village Age: 76 Posts: 225 Rep Power: 10	Why not? We will be 8-8, or better. __________________ NoBullTexan

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YoungTexanFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,791 Rep Power: 653	I feel most of miamis sucess was built on youth, heart, and a fast defense. We are working on all three, but the last one being able to completely do it's job as Miami's defense did last year will be the key IMO. Of course we do have one of their D-cordinators who says he wants to be agressive. __________________ The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we had when we created them.

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Texans_Chick Utopian Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,964 Rep Power: 23137	For me, I think the best comparison between the Texans/Dolphins might be the sort of season we might face. Last years Dolphins had a horrible start. They had a hard time learning the 3-4 defense (it is easier learning 4-3 than a 3-4). And then they started winning. With our schedule, it is quite possible that we could have a similar slow start changing stuff on both sides of the ball. __________________ More on the Texans? Please check TexansChick Hou Chronicle Blog & AOL Sports-Texans FanHouse & Twitter @StephStradley

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KingRat Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: Willis, smalltown Texas Age: 53 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 10	If Texans win over Eagles... ...they go 10 & 6, if they lose, they go 6 & 10, simple as that __________________ WILL WORK FOR TEXANS FOOTBALL

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Tailgate Fall of Hame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX - Born and raised Age: 35 Posts: 2,685 Rep Power: 8909	There is no better time to have high hopes than now.

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aj. Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,769 Rep Power: 657	3-7 after Week 11 is a possibility. It's that 6 game winning streak to end the season that's going to be tough.

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Hutch13 List of demands Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 1,233 Rep Power: 11	I think we definetly have a chance of becoming the Dolphins, we have that mix of youth and veterans. I Think some of this will be because David Carr will finally prove why he is chosen number one. Eric Mould will have 700 yards and 6 touchdowns

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mexican_texan Furry Tractors Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Spring, TX Age: 22 Posts: 14,179 Rep Power: 1697	Why the Dolphins? I'm hoping for the 2004 Chargers. An underperforming QB(Brees/Carr) and unexpected TE(Gates/Joppru) break out and have a large part in turning around the worst team in the NFL to a playoff team.

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jagibelieve Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 102 Rep Power: 8	As they say all the time "Any Given Sunday". After saying that though, it's very tough in the current league to be successful after major changes.

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Hookem Horns Lets Go Rangers Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 31176	I saw this thread and thought 72 Dolphins. I think that would be a stretch.

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Texans Horror Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,303 Rep Power: 24	The possibility is there because Houston has a system that can turn an average back into a dominant running game. Instead of having one credible pass threat, teams are going to have to go between Moulds and Johnson. TE help (for once) will really open up the passing game. So I think the Texans have the potential for great offense, something they haven't ever had. The defense cannot be worse than it was last year. P-Buc is showing great signs of improvement, and the front seven have been upgraded in almost every way imaginable. The shift to the 4-3, having Sherman on the line, and with Kubiak at the helm, this has the potential of being a really good team this year. It's not like in years past when the fans had to wonder what was really going on in management's head. There are still a lot of questions, but I think chances are that the Texans could improve vastly, the way the Dolphins did last year, and the way many teams have done in the past four years. In 2002, the Jags were 6-10, Cinci 2-14, and Tennessee and Oakland were 11-5. The Texans are primed to turn this around.

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