Ranked 22nd in WR TE combos - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

MightyTExan · 07-15-2006

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5785564

In 2004, Andre Johnson gained 1,142 yards and averaged 14.5 yards per reception. Last season, he gained 688 yards and averaged 10.9 yards per reception. Which one is the real Johnson? Expecting a repeat of 2004 may be unreasonable, but Johnson is certainly highly talented and likely destined to stardom. The Texans imported Eric Moulds to be their second receiver. Apparently, Andre Reed was unavailable. The more important acquisition may be Jeb Putzier, who provides a solid tight end threat. Further down the depth chart, Derrick Armstrong has posted impressive advanced stats the past two seasons in very limited playing time.

bigbrewster2000 · 07-15-2006

I have nothing nice to say about this article. I would like to see the difference in this list at the end of the season.

Coach C. · 07-15-2006

Coming off the season that we had everyone is going to rank us low at pretty much everything. I mean we were terrible last year, and like you said at the end of the season everyone will be singing another tune.

MorKnolle · 07-15-2006

How is Dallas #1? That is strike 1 on the garbage meter.

How are Dallas and Seattle ahead of Indy, and how is Arizona only #6?

How is Green Bay rated so high after losing Javon Walker?

How are the Jets in front of us?

This whole article is stupid.

**Kaiser Toro** · 07-15-2006

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Originally Posted by MorKnolle

How is Dallas #1? That is strike 1 on the garbage meter.

How are Dallas and Seattle ahead of Indy, and how is Arizona only #6?

How is Green Bay rated so high after losing Javon Walker?

How are the Jets in front of us?

This whole article is stupid.

Fox News, Fair and Balanced.

Brandon420tx · 07-15-2006

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Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro

Fox News, Fair and Balanced.

Do I detect a hint of

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DocBar · 07-15-2006

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Originally Posted by Superstar

No kiddin man. I hope we prove everyone wrong and go to the playoffs. I know we wont get past the first round, but I would like to see the faces of the so called analysts.

I f we happenh to make the playoffs this year, with our schedule, I think we could make it past the 1st round. We play some good teams this year.

bigTEXan8 · 07-15-2006

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Originally Posted by MorKnolle

How is Dallas #1? That is strike 1 on the garbage meter.

How are Dallas and Seattle ahead of Indy, and how is Arizona only #6?

How is Green Bay rated so high after losing Javon Walker?

How are the Jets in front of us?

This whole article is stupid.

First off, Dallas at #1 is only because of TO. Hate him or really hate him, he's a damn good WR. D and Sea-town ahead of Indy because Sea-town still has Alexander, which gives them more balance than Indy, and I guess D because of the same reason with their RBs. When Indy lost Edge, they lost a lot of balance. AZ will be ranked higher at the end of the season. GB because of Favre. He makes anyone look good. Jets still puzzles me as well. Pretty piss-poor article, I must concur with you.

MorKnolle · 07-15-2006

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Originally Posted by bigTEXan8

First off, Dallas at #1 is only because of TO. Hate him or really hate him, he's a damn good WR. D and Sea-town ahead of Indy because Sea-town still has Alexander, which gives them more balance than Indy, and I guess D because of the same reason with their RBs. When Indy lost Edge, they lost a lot of balance. AZ will be ranked higher at the end of the season. GB because of Favre. He makes anyone look good. Jets still puzzles me as well. Pretty piss-poor article, I must concur with you.

This list was supposed to be WR/TE combos, Seattle is far from having the best group of those in the league, unless you're talking about the most overpaid group since they just gave Burleson $49 million. T.O. is still arguably the best receiver in the league when he's on his game, but I don't put him and Terry Glenn above Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne, much less when you add Stokley and Dallas Clark into the mix, and factor in the QB that is responsible for getting the ball to them. Then Arizona has Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald, the best 1-2 duo in the league, and they also have Bryant Johnson and now Leonard Pope, I couldn't put anyone but Indy ahead of them. Either way, I still say this list is BS.

valleytexfan · 07-15-2006

this article totally disinterested me at the 'Apparently, Andre Reed wasn't available' comment.

TexanFan881 · 07-15-2006

How is Cinci 3rd, they have no TE.

the wonger need food · 07-15-2006

So many holes in this ranking. Having San Diego and KC in the top 10 is a big stretch. Dallas at #1 is a joke. But who cares... we'll can revisit this article when the season is over.

Second Honeymoon · 07-15-2006

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Originally Posted by MorKnolle

How is Dallas #1? That is strike 1 on the garbage meter.

How are Dallas and Seattle ahead of Indy, and how is Arizona only #6?

How is Green Bay rated so high after losing Javon Walker?

How are the Jets in front of us?

This whole article is stupid.

Quoted For Truth

Dallas is with Oakland around #6 or #7 tops. and that is only you can convince yourself Owen wont meltdown in the Big D. I have supported the Cowboys since I was a little tike and I still don't know what is up with all the euphoria regarding the upcoming season for the Cowboys. Dallas still has Bledsoe at the helm and there remain big questions in the OL and at CB.

As for the Top5 its pretty much based on what your taste is. And does the criteria take into effect the QB delivering the ball? Oh well, its all just there to spark discussions such as this thread....I do think the Texans have a Top10 receiving corps but due to inadequacies at the QB and OL position, I think they will only get 18-20ranked production this first year under the new system Kubiak is bringing.

Coach C. · 07-16-2006

Mork I think it may be time to start doing our own lists similar to the one coming out on Foxsports.com. I am thinking installments about WR/TE, QB, RB, Front seven, secondary, and special teams. If your up for it holla atcha boy.

Texans86 · 07-16-2006

New section up yesterday on quarterbacks. I didn't see it posted yet. They have us rated at 23.

23. Houston
David Carr was terrible last year, but conventional wisdom says he's the victim of circumstance. But now that a new coaching staff is taking over in Houston, this is probably the last year he can use that excuse. Sage Rosenfels is nobody's idea of a starting quarterback, but he's also not the bum that most people think he is. He's a serviceable backup.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5764156

South Texan · 07-16-2006

For any of you that attend the track, you know that the first thing you look at when deciding which dogs to bet on is past performance. I don't see that being much different in ranking football teams. And face it, our past performance does not inspire many bettors to put their money on us.

I think most of the writers are playing it safe to cover their asses... whoops, I meant reputations. Well, that's fine with me... like Al Pacino says in The Devil's Advocate, "Never let them see you coming".

MorKnolle · 07-16-2006

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Originally Posted by Texans86

New section up yesterday on quarterbacks. I didn't see it posted yet. They have us rated at 23.

23. Houston
David Carr was terrible last year, but conventional wisdom says he's the victim of circumstance. But now that a new coaching staff is taking over in Houston, this is probably the last year he can use that excuse. Sage Rosenfels is nobody's idea of a starting quarterback, but he's also not the bum that most people think he is. He's a serviceable backup.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5764156

23rd isn't an especially positive ranking considering he was 19th in the league in passing yards and 21st in passer rating last year, despite the ridiculous offense we were running (12th and 16th in 2004).

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Originally Posted by Coach C.

Mork I think it may be time to start doing our own lists similar to the one coming out on Foxsports.com. I am thinking installments about WR/TE, QB, RB, Front seven, secondary, and special teams. If your up for it holla atcha boy.

We might have to do that at some point.

Bobo · 07-16-2006

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The Texans imported Eric Moulds to be their second receiver. Apparently, Andre Reed was unavailable.

But Mike Flanagan was.

07-15-2006	#3
Coach C. Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SE Houston Posts: 1,422 Rep Power: 10	Coming off the season that we had everyone is going to rank us low at pretty much everything. I mean we were terrible last year, and like you said at the end of the season everyone will be singing another tune. __________________ "Inconsistency is the only thing in which men are consistent" — Horace Smith. 12-7 Aggies!!!

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valleytexfan Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rio Grande Valley, TX Posts: 1,141 Rep Power: 274	this article totally disinterested me at the 'Apparently, Andre Reed wasn't available' comment. Last edited by valleytexfan; 07-15-2006 at 06:21 PM.

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TexanFan881 Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Illinois Age: 23 Posts: 2,794 Rep Power: 580	How is Cinci 3rd, they have no TE. __________________ Proud Adoptee Of Our Future Starting Running Back Chris Taylor

07-16-2006	#14
Coach C. Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SE Houston Posts: 1,422 Rep Power: 10	Mork I think it may be time to start doing our own lists similar to the one coming out on Foxsports.com. I am thinking installments about WR/TE, QB, RB, Front seven, secondary, and special teams. If your up for it holla atcha boy. __________________ "Inconsistency is the only thing in which men are consistent" — Horace Smith. 12-7 Aggies!!!

07-16-2006	#15
Texans86 All Pro Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Waco, Texas Age: 26 Posts: 927 Rep Power: 8	New section up yesterday on quarterbacks. I didn't see it posted yet. They have us rated at 23. 23. Houston David Carr was terrible last year, but conventional wisdom says he's the victim of circumstance. But now that a new coaching staff is taking over in Houston, this is probably the last year he can use that excuse. Sage Rosenfels is nobody's idea of a starting quarterback, but he's also not the bum that most people think he is. He's a serviceable backup. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5764156 __________________ "Only the Sith deal in absolutes." ---Wait, isn't that an absolute?

07-15-2006	#1
MightyTExan It's go time! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 787 Rep Power: 4036	Ranked 22nd in WR TE combos http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5785564 In 2004, Andre Johnson gained 1,142 yards and averaged 14.5 yards per reception. Last season, he gained 688 yards and averaged 10.9 yards per reception. Which one is the real Johnson? Expecting a repeat of 2004 may be unreasonable, but Johnson is certainly highly talented and likely destined to stardom. The Texans imported Eric Moulds to be their second receiver. Apparently, Andre Reed was unavailable. The more important acquisition may be Jeb Putzier, who provides a solid tight end threat. Further down the depth chart, Derrick Armstrong has posted impressive advanced stats the past two seasons in very limited playing time.

07-15-2006	#2
bigbrewster2000 4th Infantry Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Woodlands Age: 35 Posts: 1,332 Rep Power: 4861	I have nothing nice to say about this article. I would like to see the difference in this list at the end of the season.

07-15-2006	#4
MorKnolle Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,210 Rep Power: 0	How is Dallas #1? That is strike 1 on the garbage meter. How are Dallas and Seattle ahead of Indy, and how is Arizona only #6? How is Green Bay rated so high after losing Javon Walker? How are the Jets in front of us? This whole article is stupid.

07-15-2006	#12
the wonger need food Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston Age: 43 Posts: 2,534 Rep Power: 1085	So many holes in this ranking. Having San Diego and KC in the top 10 is a big stretch. Dallas at #1 is a joke. But who cares... we'll can revisit this article when the season is over.

07-16-2006	#16
South Texan Veteran Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: I can see Mexico from here! Age: 65 Posts: 309 Rep Power: 9	Prognostication is like betting on the greyhounds For any of you that attend the track, you know that the first thing you look at when deciding which dogs to bet on is past performance. I don't see that being much different in ranking football teams. And face it, our past performance does not inspire many bettors to put their money on us. I think most of the writers are playing it safe to cover their asses... whoops, I meant reputations. Well, that's fine with me... like Al Pacino says in The Devil's Advocate, "Never let them see you coming".

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