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Old 09-10-2004   #41
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okay --- i'll avoid smak, cuz i'm all smacked out today..... so here is the truth about the Chargers..... compare what i say with what you observe in the game on sunday..

1) Tomlinson is virtually unstoppable.....

2) OL --- chargers fans have been ripping the OL to pieces for a couple years now.... but what it really comes down to is that OL can be separated into 2 catagories... run blocking and pass blocking.... the chargers run blocking part of it gets an "A".... the pass blocking part gets an "incomplete" at this point.... i'm happy to say that the chargers didn't give up one sack this preseason in 4 games.... we acquired Oben (starter in superbowl for Buccaneers) to play left tackle..... Fonoti is brilliant against run, getting better vs. pass...... our Center is a rookie --- yes, he is a rookie, but a very talented rookie (how many rookie centers were drafted at the top of the 3rd round? it's rare)... so then we have Goff who's known for being very good run-blocker and average pass blocker... Then we have Olivea (rookie) as our right tackle... Olivea is the biggest question mark..... sure he played perfectly in his 4th preseason game, but the game before that he was havnig some trouble... so as Texans fans, you'll want to mainly keep an eye on the right side of the chargers OL regarding getting any pressure on the QB... because Oben holds his own....

3) TE --- Antonio Gates is fantastic.... he never played a down of football in college, just played basketball... dropped off the radar in last years' draft.... so after he learned to play football last year, he started playing around the 9th game of the season --- then proceeded to improve quickly, then lit it up at the end of the season..... he's dominant in both phases, receiving and blocking and he's our 2nd biggest star on offense... you'll see a lot of him matched up with your coverage LBs.... good luck..

4) WR --- mostly unproven...... Eric Parker is as consistant as it gets, but he's not particularly amazing in any phase..... he just gets open and makes great catches... he's not a burner, but he's fast... (he's not Andre Johnson though)... Parker's problem has been injuries, not performance...... Caldwell is our phenonom with low IQ..... he's got everything you would ever want except a brain... so he's been a slow growth player --- our offensive coordinator, brees, and Schottenheimer seem to think he could be a pro bowler this year since he's finally "gotten it" in training camp this year ---- but us chargers fans would like to see him "get it" during a regular season game..... anyway, our WRs are mostly unproven, so you could expect to win this battle, but down count on it 100%... they will make some plays here and there..

5) Drew Brees is not the problem and everyone here in SD knows it..... He was never the problem...... his OL gave way too many pressures last year, thus the revamping of OL this offseason.. Brees won't go deep on you, but he seems to be the chargers greatest sack alluder of all-time.... he just senses pressure somehow and always manages to slip away... he doesn't take off and run for many yards, but he certainly knows how to avoid the pressure.. He has a little bit of accuracy issues when throwing over 25 yards...

6) The reason for the chargers terrible year last two years is because of the hideous defensive coordination of Dale Lindsay (who was fired after the season).... it was plain as day --- we have good talent on defense buy this Lindsay dumbass got his first chance ever to be a DC and he completely failed... by the end of the season, still the players were saying "who's got that guy, and who's got this guy, where i am i supposed to be on this play"..... schott took Lindsay's power away and had to friggin micromanage the damn defense in the middle of the damn games in the 2nd half of the season..... Thus the hiring of 3-4 master Wade Philips...... YES!!!!!!!!!!!

7) DL ---- you wont find one chargers fan that is unhappy with our DL.... serious bodies there...... basically 3 defensive tackles.......

8) our LBs are considered the deepest, strongest part of our team ---- yes, the chargers lead the league in sacks during the preseason, but that was just preseason.... we'll see what happens during the regular season...... Donnie Edwards is the leader on defense and is just plain great......

9) CBs ---- a couple of 1st rounders, Jammer and Sammy Davis --- we like our CBs a lot, but Dale Lindsay had them so confused, it was a catastrophy last year until Schott micro managed he damn defense...

10) Safties --- Terrance Kiel is awesome..... Wilson is average, but overall we like them a lot.....

it all comes down to the Defensive Coordinator.... That is the reason for the bad season last year...... our offense was perfectly fine other than weaknesses in pass blocking which have bee addressed this year in offseason..... the defense brought this team to the dregs.....

special teams are excellent in all phases except for one --- kick off distance.... Kaeding will kick mostly to about the 10 or 15 yard line, so expect to get some good field position in this way.....

good luck..... i still think the Bolts win by 10 or more, but hey, it's a game, anything can happen....
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Damn here we are giving yall a few "compliments which i dont see why" and you come on here talking a bunch of BS. What do you expect us to do roll over and play dead,,,,how bout this i'll go to yalls message board Monday and tell ALL yall that we TOLD YALL SO . Ever heard of Andre Johnnson, Domanic Davis, David Carr, Corey Bradford, ok ok how bout Jamie Sharper, Jay Foreman, Aaron Gleen, Marcus Coleman ??? No well thats to bad otherwise i dont think ya woulda come on OUR web site. By the way good "LUCK" sunday.

the only problem i see for our defense is sammy davis against andre johnson corey bradford is a non factor going against quentin jammer he will be shut down... but davis played well at hte end of lat year and the pre season so we will see.... my prediction 27-21 chargers i dont see davis having a big game with all pro jamal williams and donine edwards clogging the middle... you say igor olshansky as if he is some small rookie scrub... take a look at htis guy he is a monster.... you think brock lesnar or david boston is big... look at this guy....... with ben leber.... the guy who sacked david carr for a safety in 2002 blitzing and coming off of his blind side i predcit lots of turnovers for you.. our blitzez come from every where.... if you do manage 3 touchdowns it will be because of andre johnson beating sammy davis and setting up runs for davis.... if he doesnt beat davis..... texans are in for a long day.... and for someone who said 125 for tomlinon possibly 200 plus not likely..... its more like 125 definitely 200 plus possibly
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okay --- i'll avoid smak, cuz i'm all smacked out today..... so here is the truth about the Chargers..... compare what i say with what you observe in the game on sunday..

1) Tomlinson is virtually unstoppable.....

2) OL --- chargers fans have been ripping the OL to pieces for a couple years now.... but what it really comes down to is that OL can be separated into 2 catagories... run blocking and pass blocking.... the chargers run blocking part of it gets an "A".... the pass blocking part gets an "incomplete" at this point.... i'm happy to say that the chargers didn't give up one sack this preseason in 4 games.... we acquired Oben (starter in superbowl for Buccaneers) to play left tackle..... Fonoti is brilliant against run, getting better vs. pass...... our Center is a rookie --- yes, he is a rookie, but a very talented rookie (how many rookie centers were drafted at the top of the 3rd round? it's rare)... so then we have Goff who's known for being very good run-blocker and average pass blocker... Then we have Olivea (rookie) as our right tackle... Olivea is the biggest question mark..... sure he played perfectly in his 4th preseason game, but the game before that he was havnig some trouble... so as Texans fans, you'll want to mainly keep an eye on the right side of the chargers OL regarding getting any pressure on the QB... because Oben holds his own....

3) TE --- Antonio Gates is fantastic.... he never played a down of football in college, just played basketball... dropped off the radar in last years' draft.... so after he learned to play football last year, he started playing around the 9th game of the season --- then proceeded to improve quickly, then lit it up at the end of the season..... he's dominant in both phases, receiving and blocking and he's our 2nd biggest star on offense... you'll see a lot of him matched up with your coverage LBs.... good luck..

4) WR --- mostly unproven...... Eric Parker is as consistant as it gets, but he's not particularly amazing in any phase..... he just gets open and makes great catches... he's not a burner, but he's fast... (he's not Andre Johnson though)... Parker's problem has been injuries, not performance...... Caldwell is our phenonom with low IQ..... he's got everything you would ever want except a brain... so he's been a slow growth player --- our offensive coordinator, brees, and Schottenheimer seem to think he could be a pro bowler this year since he's finally "gotten it" in training camp this year ---- but us chargers fans would like to see him "get it" during a regular season game..... anyway, our WRs are mostly unproven, so you could expect to win this battle, but down count on it 100%... they will make some plays here and there..

5) Drew Brees is not the problem and everyone here in SD knows it..... He was never the problem...... his OL gave way too many pressures last year, thus the revamping of OL this offseason.. Brees won't go deep on you, but he seems to be the chargers greatest sack alluder of all-time.... he just senses pressure somehow and always manages to slip away... he doesn't take off and run for many yards, but he certainly knows how to avoid the pressure.. He has a little bit of accuracy issues when throwing over 25 yards...

6) The reason for the chargers terrible year last two years is because of the hideous defensive coordination of Dale Lindsay (who was fired after the season).... it was plain as day --- we have good talent on defense buy this Lindsay dumbass got his first chance ever to be a DC and he completely failed... by the end of the season, still the players were saying "who's got that guy, and who's got this guy, where i am i supposed to be on this play"..... schott took Lindsay's power away and had to friggin micromanage the damn defense in the middle of the damn games in the 2nd half of the season..... Thus the hiring of 3-4 master Wade Philips...... YES!!!!!!!!!!!

7) DL ---- you wont find one chargers fan that is unhappy with our DL.... serious bodies there...... basically 3 defensive tackles.......

8) our LBs are considered the deepest, strongest part of our team ---- yes, the chargers lead the league in sacks during the preseason, but that was just preseason.... we'll see what happens during the regular season...... Donnie Edwards is the leader on defense and is just plain great......

9) CBs ---- a couple of 1st rounders, Jammer and Sammy Davis --- we like our CBs a lot, but Dale Lindsay had them so confused, it was a catastrophy last year until Schott micro managed he damn defense...

10) Safties --- Terrance Kiel is awesome..... Wilson is average, but overall we like them a lot.....

it all comes down to the Defensive Coordinator.... That is the reason for the bad season last year...... our offense was perfectly fine other than weaknesses in pass blocking which have bee addressed this year in offseason..... the defense brought this team to the dregs.....

special teams are excellent in all phases except for one --- kick off distance.... Kaeding will kick mostly to about the 10 or 15 yard line, so expect to get some good field position in this way.....

good luck..... i still think the Bolts win by 10 or more, but hey, it's a game, anything can happen....
i agree with number 6 boy oh boy did lindsey suck.. .i mean he had jr seau marcellus wiley rodney harrison donnie edwards ben leber raylee johnson jamal williams quentin jammer prolly forgetting somebody but more than enough capable players on defense and would play weak *** zones instead of coming after the qb and then last year wouldnt blitz when the pass rush wasnt effective what an ***** he was i was callin for his head in 02 shoulda brought in bill arnsparger and replaced him with him instead of him just being an advisor...
oh and stan humphries was our best sack alluder... he just slung it 40 yards into tony martin's hands while gettin knocked the fug out lol
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I am just amazed that Bolts fans feel it sooooo important to insert their own propaganda on an opposing teams message board. They have a hard time understanding *cough cough '12b' cough cough* that this team is only in its 3rd year. How long have the Chargers had to put a winning team on the field? If memory serves me correctly - I know that it is longer than 3 years - and even with that the Texans still had more wins last season then a team that has been around the NFL for decades. Just awful.

And should you be surprised that the Texans were last in a majority of categories - no. It was expected. Especially with as many unfortunate injuries and lack of depth that they had. Everyone knew that winning 6 games last year was a stretch for Houston. I just see your argument as wholly over hyped and ignorant - maybe the climate does something to people's brains in California.

The comments from Charger fans include this. A) LT B) an unproven Igor rookie and C) cast off veterans that were going to be cut anyway but Panos & Co decided to give draft picks away for them - akk emm **Oben** (clear throat)

Very impressive.

Well Tomlinson is. Not so sure about the rest.

You talk like your changing our minds or something.
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We came here to chat since a few of you came to our board to chat. Sorry to intrude. Any way "cough cough", injuries are part of the game, we had them too. And as far as your three year excuse goes, you could apply your logic to every losing team in the NFL beside the Texans, it makes no sense. Conversely, your coach took his last franchise to the playoffs in two years.

Excuses are like something everyone has and they all smell like, well you get the picture. Notably, you don't hear me making ANY excuses.
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We came here to chat since a few of you came to our board to chat. Sorry to intrude.
You guys are all welcome here. It's nice to have a team come in as underdog peading their propaganda as to why we should be scared. It sure beats a good team coming in with their fans stating the obvious. Hope is nice. Even for the hopeless.
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Nice Vinny.
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good game Texans fans...... your team looks good.... i really like your offense..... as what usually happens in games, turnovers make a big difference.... Schott is the all-time turnover ratio leader in the nfl and makes it priority number one every year and never stops talking about it.... it's his #1 preaching and as usual, schott's team won the turnover battle.....

i think your team is on it's way to a decent season..... good luck..
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Good Game I Thought I Would Be Talking A Whole Lot Of Smack. But My Team Did All The Talking For Me Great Game. Prolly One Of The Most Exciting Of The Year
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What was that Vinny??? I missed that. Anyway, the Texans played a hell of a game. I won't gloat because we had 4 takeaways and won by only a touchdown, that is not so promising. It should have been a rout.

Your defense makes outstanding open field one-on-one tackles. Babin was very impressive, minus the cheap shot on LT. Had LT been injured, I think he might have been barred from SD for life.

You manhandled our D nicely in the first half, but once we made a few adjustments and schemes for the second half, I think we showed our mettle.

All in all, a good gutty back and forth game. What football is all about. Good luck with the rest of your season.

Oh yeah, and tell Carr to dump the Prince Valiant haircut!!!

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What was that Vinny??? I missed that.
I was referring to the weak kiddy smack that was all over this board at that time. Hopeless was a "nice" characterization.
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Good game Texans. Seems the thing that killed us last year did your team in this year....turnovers. As you can see, the Charger O-line has improved vastly. Even with 2 ROOKIES and the entire O-line retooled, it is MUCH beter than we had last year. Dominick Davis and your receivers really impressed me

Another thing that will be an issue for your team will be the secondary . Our receivers are decent at best but your gonna have problems with Roy Williams and Hakim next week, Tony Gonzalez week 3, and Randy Moss week 5. Best of luck to your team.
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LMAO AT ROBINSON COVERING RANDY MOSS OH BOY THAT SHOULD BE FUN LOL. OR EVEN AZ HAKIM FROM SAN DIEGO STATE.... LOL TEXANS ARE IN FOR A LONG LONG YEAR GO BOLTZ
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They have no O line...I'm not worried...
it doesnt matter if they have NO OLINE..what in the hell do you think he did last year? 2300 total yards of offence for LT. BTW they did upgrade the O line by adding goff and oben..i expect LT to top what he did last year
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