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Old 07-11-2006   #1
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I was reading Profootballtalk.com's ranking of Detroit and they mentioned the POSSIBILITY of maybe Charles Rogers and/or Mike Williams getting the boot. Both are former #1 picks and loaded with that talent word and that potential word. Both were also in a system even worse than ours, or maybe their QB was worse than ours. What would you guys think of the Texans picking up one of them if they got cut? This is purely speculation and, frankly, we needed another thread started.
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We don't need them right now, IMO. But it'd be nice to have one or the other for a post Eric Moulds Texans squad.
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We are set with AJ, Moulds, Walter, Mathis, and the others.
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That's a lot of talent to pass up is why I started the thread. I'm not sure about our #3 receiver and either one of these guys would be a #1 on 95% of the teams in this league. Walters has talent but is he a better option than those two? Mathis is far from being a proven receiver at this level, Armstrong gets some serious consideration...
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That's a lot of talent to pass up is why I started the thread. I'm not sure about our #3 receiver and either one of these guys would be a #1 on 95% of the teams in this league. Walters has talent but is he a better option than those two? Mathis is far from being a proven receiver at this level, Armstrong gets some serious consideration...
IMO if they were all that, Detroit wouldn't even consider giving either the boot, especially with Martz as the OC. And if they were able to be a #1 somewhere else, why would they want to come here and be a #3?
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IMO if they were all that, Detroit wouldn't even consider giving either the boot, especially with Martz as the OC. And if they were able to be a #1 somewhere else, why would they want to come here and be a #3?
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Players arent going to look to the Texans to win Champoinships when they finish 2-14 ...... If they are willing to take less or be a smaller part of the offense for the opportunity to win it all they would look to teams such as the Pats , Steelers , Seahawks , Panthers and Dolts ...... the Texans are at or near the bottom of that list until they put together a couple of winning / play-off seasons .
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IMO if they were all that, Detroit wouldn't even consider giving either the boot, especially with Martz as the OC. And if they were able to be a #1 somewhere else, why would they want to come here and be a #3?
My thought exactly, if Charles Rogers didn't have the injury history/concerns that he does then I'd think about him, Mike Williams doesn't seem to have any kind of decent attitude right now and he's built more like a TE at the moment anyways.
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My thought exactly, if Charles Rogers didn't have the injury history/concerns that he does then I'd think about him, Mike Williams doesn't seem to have any kind of decent attitude right now and he's built more like a TE at the moment anyways.
I remember Casserly talking around Mike Williams some. At the pre-draft luncheon at the time, he was talking about how the media types like some guys WAAAAY more than NFL people do. That it isn't enough for a guy to be good in college, that you have to project out whether he can fit a role in the NFL. He talk around how maybe Mike Williams was one of these guys--not quite fast enough to be a highly drafted receiver but not big enough to be a proper TE. That maybe he couldn't live up to the hype.
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I remember Casserly talking around Mike Williams some. At the pre-draft luncheon at the time, he was talking about how the media types like some guys WAAAAY more than NFL people do. That it isn't enough for a guy to be good in college, that you have to project out whether he can fit a role in the NFL. He talk around how maybe Mike Williams was one of these guys--not quite fast enough to be a highly drafted receiver but not big enough to be a proper TE. That maybe he couldn't live up to the hype.
TC, sounds like another Billy Miller type.
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TC, sounds like another Billy Miller type.

Billy Miller wasnt a 1st round pick .... much less a high 1st
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Here's a link to follow for Mike Williams. Please keep in mind that this is a "filler" thread. JUST 16 MORE DAYS TIL TC!!!!!! That's training camp, NOT Texans Chick!!! She's on here regularly, keeping us up to date with good info.
http://football.about.com/cs/playerp...kewilliams.htm
I see what ur saying about the TE thing.
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Geez...I'll do more homework before starting another thread!!!!
http://football.about.com/gi/dynamic...rpage%2F396176
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If both of these receivers are this bad, and Harrington is gone....Why does Matt Millen still have a job with the Lions. Why isn't he head of scouting for Casserly's NFL office?
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If both of these receivers are this bad, and Harrington is gone....Why does Matt Millen still have a job with the Lions. Why isn't he head of scouting for Casserly's NFL office?

I kinda like Millen as the Lions GM , Its nice to have someone to laugh at .
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I remember Casserly talking around Mike Williams some. At the pre-draft luncheon at the time, he was talking about how the media types like some guys WAAAAY more than NFL people do. That it isn't enough for a guy to be good in college, that you have to project out whether he can fit a role in the NFL. He talk around how maybe Mike Williams was one of these guys--not quite fast enough to be a highly drafted receiver but not big enough to be a proper TE. That maybe he couldn't live up to the hype.
Williams was one of those guys where opinions on his chance of success in the NFL were all over the place. But I remember a lot of guys said he just didn't have the speed or moves to play in the NFL as a WR. And as far as him playing at TE, he had no experience blocking on the los against big DL & LBs. But he had some fans to. And of course, the USC hype machine had his rep
pumped sky high. Sounds familiar.
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Williams has from day one been considered lazy and not willing to do what the coaches have asked of him.

As far as Rogers, back to back collar bone fractures, after which he has played noticeably tentative. Confidence is something that is perceived to be lacking in his play now. He has shown a big problem getting off the LOS and gaining separation. If this is not enough, add a marijuana habit. Last year he was suspended for 4 games due to testing positive for the 3rd time. Lastly, he has made it well known with a very bad attitude that he was drafted to be THE #1 receiver. Unfortunately, the presence of Roy Williams and the new Lions scheme, the ball is going to be widely distributed............making his attitude that much worse..........Under the circumstances, there will be few teams that will try to obtain him as a #1 reciever..........unless, of course, he's been sharing their bong all along........I think the Texans pass the bong on this one.
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At least we're not talking about you know who and you know what.
I'm going leave the play by play serious stuff to others better suited for it. Me and my Obsessive/Compulsive Disorder posting habits are gonna stick with color commentary from here on out.

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I think we are all set at WR. I think we are stacked at WR actually.
And Kubiak clearly wants to reinforce a team atmosphere.
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I personally think that Rogers and Williams will be both have long careers as pretty good complementary recievers in the NFL. Unfortunately, some team will fall in love their measurables/hype and pay them like a number 1 reciever hoping the "Change of Scenery" will help these guys mature and become what they are capable of becoming. That team will be disappointed and I truly hope it isn't us.
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