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Old 07-06-2006   #1
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http://www.footballoutsiders.com/200...analysis/3978/

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162 quarterbacks have had at least one fourth-quarter comeback opportunity since 1996. There are 24 instances in which two quarterbacks saw action in a failed comeback game, usually due to injury or ineffectiveness of the primary quarterback.

Based on t-tests, 21 quarterbacks have been significantly “good” at fourth-quarter comebacks since 1996 and 18 quarterbacks have been significantly “not good” by the same test (all at the .95 level). The top 10 and bottom 10 are listed above in Table 1 and Table 2. Here are the others:

Significantly good: Aaron Brooks, Tim Couch, Trent Green, Kent Graham, Steve Young, Ben Roethlisberger, John Elway, Kordell Stewart, Daunte Culpepper, Elvis Grbac, Rich Gannon.

Significantly bad: Neil O’Donnell, Doug Flutie, Frank Reich (yes, the same Frank Reich who led the greatest postseason comeback in NFL history in 1992, prior to this study), Gus Frerotte, David Carr, Jim Harbaugh, Matt Hasselbeck, Billy Joe Tolliver.
Billy Joe Tolliver is ranked with Carr... I think I am going to start the Lord's Prayer right now.
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I guess I can play spin doctor.. I have also seen our defense NOT step up and make the key stop in the forth quarter to give us a chance

we have seen where we need a key 3rd down pickup in the 4th to keep the clock running and sadly we didn't
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...and Kent Graham is ranked with John Elway. Like this is something to take seriously? Good gawd.
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This is one of those times when you have a theory, apply it, look at the results and say bad Mr. Theory and smack it on the head. Useless results both ends.
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It is to bad that Palmer's magic did not rub off on Carr like it did on Couch.
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Significantly bad: Neil O’Donnell, Doug Flutie, Frank Reich (yes, the same Frank Reich who led the greatest postseason comeback in NFL history in 1992, prior to this study), Gus Frerotte, David Carr, Jim Harbaugh, Matt Hasselbeck, Billy Joe Tolliver.
Jim "Captain Comeback" Harbaugh made this list?
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Jim "Captain Comeback" Harbaugh made this list?
Man did he have a great year with the Colts in 1995.
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Billy Joe Tolliver is ranked with Carr... I think I am going to start the Lord's Prayer right now.

Wow....... Aaron Brooks, Tim Couch, and Kordell Stewart rated in the top ten....

yet none of them are gauranteed starters..... heck, two of the three will definitely not start.

In all fairness to Carr...... as many comeback situations he's been in is probalby diluting his stats.
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Soooo, I guess this is another of those Carr threads that are constantly started by all the Carr lovers as KT keeps saying is what happens all the time. Couldn't POSSIBLY be a "Let's start one to be able to take a shot at Carr thread". Nah, no one starts those, just always those pesky Carr lovers gushing about that piece of road apples QB, and a certain band of folks has to maintain world balance by responding. Yup, guess that's what is happening.
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This guy should run for office.
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Wow....... Aaron Brooks, Tim Couch, and Kordell Stewart rated in the top ten....

yet none of them are gauranteed starters..... heck, two of the three will definitely not start.

In all fairness to Carr...... as many comeback situations he's been in is probalby diluting his stats.
Folks who rely on Brooks, Couch and Stewart as examples should "probalby" not throw stones or the only "gauranteed" result will be their glass house falling.
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There is no way Sage will replace Carr except for injury.

I have looked through this guy's career, and Carr is a better QB.
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http://www.footballoutsiders.com/200...analysis/3978/

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Billy Joe Tolliver is ranked with Carr... I think I am going to start the Lord's Prayer right now.
You must have taken carr in fantasy football and lost a bet , is that it?, or you just have nothing better to do? just curious..........
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DANG!!! That was even more inane than most of my posts. I'm jealous.
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Folks who rely on Brooks, Couch and Stewart as examples should "probalby" not throw stones or the only "gauranteed" result will be their glass house falling.

The Texans are in the same boat....... except those guys have at least one winning season under their belts...
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And I didn't think there would be any more new and interesting topics until the depth chart was released prior to camp.
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And I didn't think there would be any more new and interesting topics until the depth chart was released prior to camp.
And you were....ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!! LOL
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Are we surprised that Brett Favre is not in the top 10?
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Hopefully this coaching staff will have the good sense to pull Carr when he's playing poorly or they are way behind. I never understood why Capers refused to bench the guy.
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Hopefully this coaching staff will have the good sense to pull Carr when he's playing poorly or they are way behind. I never understood why Capers refused to bench the guy.
I agree. A benching couldn't have been worse than all the pounding he was taking.
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