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**TEXANS84** · 07-03-2006

I thought it would be an interesting debate to see who you think will have the most sacks this season with going to the 4-3 defense.

Vote responsibly.

TexansSeminole · 07-03-2006

Antwaan Peek

Brandon420tx · 07-03-2006

Jason Babin

South Texan · 07-03-2006

Why wasn't David Carr on the list?

He is in every other thread!! (Whoops... he's in this one now!)

My prediction:
Until Mario get's used to double and triple teaming, Peek-A-Boom could easily grab the sack lead early on with his non-stop motor, and have several on his heels by the end of the season.

I also predict the Defense is really gonna be fun to watch this year.

Texans86 · 07-03-2006

The great Babino

AFD1717 · 07-03-2006

If it isn't Mario by a long shot, we're going to be forced to listen to the "Bet they wish they had that pick back" talk all season long. Maybe for the next 10 years.

South Texan · 07-03-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFD1717

If it isn't Mario by a long shot, we're going to be forced to listen to the "Bet they wish they had that pick back" talk all season long. Maybe for the next 10 years.

Well, if Mario ties up several defenders so that the overall production of the D-Line increases they can say that all they want. Like I put in another thread, think Reggie or VY will take their teams to the Super Bowl this year?.

There was some great talent in the draft this year and I think in retrospect (like many others) that Mario was the best fit for what we needed for the team.

thunderkyss · 07-04-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by South Texan

Why wasn't David Carr on the list?

He is in every other thread!! (Whoops... he's in this one now!)

Mother.......... fu.....

stole my darn line.

In that case, I'm voting for TJ......

**mexican_texan** · 07-04-2006

I see Mario leading the team in sacks this season, he learned how to get through cut blocks, he has speed and power, and he's playing alongside Payne, who is used to taking up two blockers, and Weaver, who should be like another DE next to Mario. Late in the season, when I expect teams to double or triple team Mario, TJ or Weaver may get plenty of sacks or QB pressures.

Nice to finally see the Bull Pen though, instead of just the David Carr section...but I bet this somehow turns into a Carr thread though...like how he caused around 38 sacks last year.

AggieTexanFan · 07-04-2006

as more attention shifts to Williams, Ryans will fly in and blind side the hell outta the QBs all season long

TK_Gamer · 07-04-2006

you dont have weaver on the list, id say weaver or babin
idont think teams are gonna give mario alot of angles he'll have a tough time but ryans could also get his chances depends on how often we use 2-3-6 and nickel sets

HOOK'EM · 07-04-2006

Super Mario, the first in Texans history with double digit sacks!

Corrosion · 07-04-2006

I think it will be Babin . He's returning to his natural position and will likely start opposite Mario , probably wont see a lot of double teams with Mario on the other side .

Obviously Mario Williams is going to see a lot of double teams which will limit his overall numbers but create opportunity for other's to make plays one on one.

I dont think Peek is going to see the field enough to lead the team in sacks . I expect him to be a backup behind Babin at DE and Ryans / Greenwood at LB .

I do expect Payne to have a much better season than any he's had (Stat Wise) simply because he will be attacking instead of just trying to tie up blockers , but I dont see him leading the team in sacks from the DT position .
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Travis Johnson ..... He's probably a back-up at best with the quality of D-Linemen the Texans have this year . Is he a DT or DE ? .... I wonder if he knows the answer ? I suspect he will see time at both positions .

Morlon Greenwood and Demecco Ryans will likely be the starters at the OLB's . They could both put up good numbers considering their speed .

nunusguy · 07-04-2006

If either Babin or Peek get the majority of the playing time including 3rd down
and other passing situations, I gotta cast my vote with that guy, whichever
one it might be.
The weakside DE in the 4-3 has the natural advantage to be the leader in
this stat over the strongside guy, and since Mario will be a 21 year old NFL rookie, its gonna take some time for him to negotiate the transition from
college ball and all that goes with it.

Hulk75 · 07-04-2006

Shoot Mario.....................He better right Reggie.

JK NO doubt he will lead our team with sacks..............Consider te NFL Rookie Sack record to go to Mario.

**Kaiser Toro** · 07-04-2006

I went with Mario, but felt awfullly compelled to hit Babin. Whoever is opposite Mario should be able to put up some numbers.

AFD1717 · 07-04-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by South Texan

Well, if Mario ties up several defenders so that the overall production of the D-Line increases they can say that all they want. Like I put in another thread, think Reggie or VY will take their teams to the Super Bowl this year?.

There was some great talent in the draft this year and I think in retrospect (like many others) that Mario was the best fit for what we needed for the team.

I'm not a Mario hater, but tying up several blockers won't get him on Sportscenter. Mario could dominate an entire game by forcing the offense to account for him on every play, but if he doesn't get a sack in that game and Bush gets 27 yards on 12 carries but happens to return a punt for a TD - the trolls will be out. Not that I really care, I'm just making an observation.

07-04-2006

No doubt it will be J.Bab

Hulk75 · 07-04-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtruroyaltyx

No doubt it will be J.Bab

NO doubt.........Wow.

MorKnolle · 07-04-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by South Texan

Why wasn't David Carr on the list?

He is in every other thread!! (Whoops... he's in this one now!)

My prediction:
Until Mario get's used to double and triple teaming, Peek-A-Boom could easily grab the sack lead early on with his non-stop motor, and have several on his heels by the end of the season.

I also predict the Defense is really gonna be fun to watch this year.

I think it is the opposite, until other teams learn that they have to double and triple team Mario he is going to tear them up, then once they start really focusing on him it will open things up for Peek/Babin, whoever is playing the majority of the time on the weakside. Orr should also get a decent amount of sacks from the SLB position. I think Mario will definitely lead our DLine in tackles and probably in sacks, if he draws a ton of attention and if they decide to play him inside at DT frequently on passing situations then Peek or Babin could end up leading the team, depending on who gets more playing time between the two. I'm not at all convinced Babin will be on the field more than Peek, and I still see Peek as the better pressure rusher between the two that will get more sacks relative to the number of plays he's on the field.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hulk75

Shoot Mario.....................He better right Reggie.

JK NO doubt he will lead our team with sacks..............Consider te NFL Rookie Sack record to go to Mario.

I can definitely see him setting the rookie sack record.

View Poll Results: Who will have the most sacks this season?
Antwan Peek	7	6.03%
Mario Williams	75	64.66%
ND Kalu	2	1.72%
Jason Babin	21	18.10%
Shante Orr	5	4.31%
Morlon Greenwood	2	1.72%
Demecco Ryans	3	2.59%
Seth Payne	0	0%
Sam Cowart	0	0%
Robaire Smith	1	0.86%
Voters: 116. You may not vote on this poll

07-03-2006	#1
TEXANS84 Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Woodlands, TX Age: 35 Posts: 7,446 Rep Power: 3116	Sack Producers I thought it would be an interesting debate to see who you think will have the most sacks this season with going to the 4-3 defense. Vote responsibly.

07-03-2006	#3
Brandon420tx Flounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 25 Posts: 3,868 Rep Power: 4417	Jason Babin __________________ That Dolphin is the bravest thing I ever saw

07-03-2006	#4
South Texan Veteran Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: I can see Mexico from here! Age: 65 Posts: 309 Rep Power: 9	Why??? Why wasn't David Carr on the list? He is in every other thread!! (Whoops... he's in this one now!) My prediction: Until Mario get's used to double and triple teaming, Peek-A-Boom could easily grab the sack lead early on with his non-stop motor, and have several on his heels by the end of the season. I also predict the Defense is really gonna be fun to watch this year.

07-03-2006	#5
Texans86 All Pro Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Waco, Texas Age: 26 Posts: 927 Rep Power: 8	The great Babino __________________ "Only the Sith deal in absolutes." ---Wait, isn't that an absolute?

07-03-2006	#2
TexansSeminole Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Age: 25 Posts: 6,847 Rep Power: 10218	Antwaan Peek

07-03-2006	#6
AFD1717 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, TX Age: 34 Posts: 326 Rep Power: 8	If it isn't Mario by a long shot, we're going to be forced to listen to the "Bet they wish they had that pick back" talk all season long. Maybe for the next 10 years. __________________ "We ain't here for a long time, so we're here for a good time."

07-04-2006	#10
AggieTexanFan Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 30 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 7	as more attention shifts to Williams, Ryans will fly in and blind side the hell outta the QBs all season long

07-04-2006	#11
TK_Gamer Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Age: 50 Posts: 1,029 Rep Power: 11	you dont have weaver on the list, id say weaver or babin idont think teams are gonna give mario alot of angles he'll have a tough time but ryans could also get his chances depends on how often we use 2-3-6 and nickel sets __________________ "Yeah, and Barry Sanders, Thurman Thomas, and Gale Sayers were undersized too...."

07-04-2006	#12
HOOK'EM Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 379 Rep Power: 8	Super Mario, the first in Texans history with double digit sacks!

07-04-2006	#13
Corrosion Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northwest Houston Age: 44 Posts: 26,916 Rep Power: 57783	I think it will be Babin . He's returning to his natural position and will likely start opposite Mario , probably wont see a lot of double teams with Mario on the other side . Obviously Mario Williams is going to see a lot of double teams which will limit his overall numbers but create opportunity for other's to make plays one on one. I dont think Peek is going to see the field enough to lead the team in sacks . I expect him to be a backup behind Babin at DE and Ryans / Greenwood at LB . I do expect Payne to have a much better season than any he's had (Stat Wise) simply because he will be attacking instead of just trying to tie up blockers , but I dont see him leading the team in sacks from the DT position . . Travis Johnson ..... He's probably a back-up at best with the quality of D-Linemen the Texans have this year . Is he a DT or DE ? .... I wonder if he knows the answer ? I suspect he will see time at both positions . Morlon Greenwood and Demecco Ryans will likely be the starters at the OLB's . They could both put up good numbers considering their speed . __________________ I have no tolerance for stupidity.

07-04-2006	#14
nunusguy Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston Posts: 8,991 Rep Power: 183	If either Babin or Peek get the majority of the playing time including 3rd down and other passing situations, I gotta cast my vote with that guy, whichever one it might be. The weakside DE in the 4-3 has the natural advantage to be the leader in this stat over the strongside guy, and since Mario will be a 21 year old NFL rookie, its gonna take some time for him to negotiate the transition from college ball and all that goes with it.

07-04-2006	#15
Hulk75 Hall of Fame Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Santa Cruz,California Age: 32 Posts: 1,380 Rep Power: 410	Shoot Mario.....................He better right Reggie. JK NO doubt he will lead our team with sacks..............Consider te NFL Rookie Sack record to go to Mario.

07-04-2006	#16
Kaiser Toro Native Mod Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Straight Outta Austin Age: 43 Posts: 15,886 Rep Power: 19756	I went with Mario, but felt awfullly compelled to hit Babin. Whoever is opposite Mario should be able to put up some numbers. __________________ Texans 2012: Kidz II Men

07-04-2006	#18
real Guest Posts: n/a	No doubt it will be J.Bab

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