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Old 07-03-2006   #1
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I saw on KFFL.com that Megan Manfull is reporting that Cowart will push Rainer for the starting job but Demeco Ryans could get in some of that action. Wouldn't it just be awesome if our rookie LB is able to start?
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I saw on KFFL.com that Megan Manfull is reporting that Cowart will push Rainer for the starting job but Demeco Ryans could get in some of that action. Wouldn't it just be awesome if our rookie LB is able to start?
I think it'd be excellent! I think he's going to be a force to reckon with for years to come. If he were to start this year don't you think it'd be an outside LB? I would think one of the vets would start as MLB and Demeco would eventually win the spot later on.
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If Ryans is the real deal, he should win a starting spot by the end of training camp, either on the weak side or in the middle.
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i think you'll see sam cowart start the season but i think we'll see plenty of ryans on the field...i do not believe cowart, rainer, or even greenwood will be able to keep him off the field the majority of the season
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I am very excited with Ryans potential (as well as a couple of the other rookies) and think in the coming years he will make a HUGE impact on the Defense.

... However...

I would hate to see him or any rookie pushed in over his head the first year. This is a whole new caliber of players he is facing as opposed to college, and I really don't want him to have a mental meltdown because he doesn't do as well out of the starting gates as he did in college. Give him time to get used to the pro's. Play him when possible (special teams and games we can stand an occasional rookie mistake) but don't start him at the beginning of this year, till he has a chance to learn how the Big Boys play. We have a lot of depth at LB so let's take advantage of it. I would hope we could ease all of the rookies that will end up starters into their spots by the end of the season, but I bet with Mario he will be starting DE from day 1. Then again, he is probably exceptional enough to handle it.

Experience is the best teacher, let's just give it to the rookies in doses they can handle!
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By the "real deal" I mean to play at a level comparable to Jonathan Vilma his rookie season. If Ryans is at this level, he should be starting game 1.
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I think it'd be excellent! I think he's going to be a force to reckon with for years to come. If he were to start this year don't you think it'd be an outside LB? I would think one of the vets would start as MLB and Demeco would eventually win the spot later on.
I'm expecting our LBs to be Ryans on the strong side, Cowart in the middle, and Greenwood on the weakside on first and second down. On third down, I expect Ryans to move to the middle and Orr come in on the strong side. Wong will shake things up if he's able to play, but we'll know more about everybody's roles by then.
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I'm expecting our LBs to be Ryans on the strong side, Cowart in the middle, and Greenwood on the weakside on first and second down. On third down, I expect Ryans to move to the middle and Orr come in on the strong side. Wong will shake things up if he's able to play, but we'll know more about everybody's roles by then.
That sounds pretty sweet to me!
You know there's some that are weary of our LB's, but to tell ya the truth I kind of like the way it looks right now. The only ones I question are Cowart (because I do not know much about him)and Wong (due to injury and strength).
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I'm expecting our LBs to be Ryans on the strong side, Cowart in the middle, and Greenwood on the weakside on first and second down. On third down, I expect Ryans to move to the middle and Orr come in on the strong side. Wong will shake things up if he's able to play, but we'll know more about everybody's roles by then.
Greenway, Cowart, Anderson will be our starting LB's opening day. If their not, Pilly will run us out of Reliant stadium. And a winable game will go down the tubes. No Rookie is going to cover Westbrook. I don't care who he is. AND...further...you better have a SSLB with some lead in is pocket to jam and slow down the Pilly TE's at the line of scrimage or...it's going to be embarassing.
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Greenway, Cowart, Anderson will be our starting LB's opening day. If their not, Pilly will run us out of Reliant stadium. And a winable game will go down the tubes. No Rookie is going to cover Westbrook. I don't care who he is. AND...further...you better have a SSLB with some lead in is pocket to jam and slow down the Pilly TE's at the line of scrimage or...it's going to be embarassing.
Greenwood= Average LB, overpaid and Overrated. IMO
Cowart= Injury prone but has something to prove. I agree with this one.
Anderson= Are you kidding? Where did this come from? Did I miss something?
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Thanks, it actually looks like Cowart needs to prove something.
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Greenway, Cowart, Anderson will be our starting LB's opening day. If their not, Pilly will run us out of Reliant stadium. And a winable game will go down the tubes. No Rookie is going to cover Westbrook. I don't care who he is. AND...further...you better have a SSLB with some lead in is pocket to jam and slow down the Pilly TE's at the line of scrimage or...it's going to be embarassing.
Greenwood is pretty good in coverage (despite being a little overrated) and will do most of the work on Westbrook. The fact that their WRs are terrible will mean that we can put a safety on him much of the time too. As far as our SSLB having "lead in his pocket" I think D-Wreck can bring it just fine. I'm not worried about him.
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I'm not going to underestimate Rainier. He seemed to not even have much of a chance before and all of a sudden he's leading the battle at the MLB position.
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Greenway, Cowart, Anderson will be our starting LB's opening day. If their not, Pilly will run us out of Reliant stadium. And a winable game will go down the tubes. No Rookie is going to cover Westbrook. I don't care who he is. AND...further...you better have a SSLB with some lead in is pocket to jam and slow down the Pilly TE's at the line of scrimage or...it's going to be embarassing.

Yeah? But then....oh forget it....:brickwall
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I'm not going to underestimate Rainier. He seemed to not even have much of a chance before and all of a sudden he's leading the battle at the MLB position.
I don't know if anybody remembers the quote, back before the draft when the new coaching staff was watching tape on the current players, and one of the coaches said their MLB was not on the roster yet. It really seems like Rainer and Cowart are the two biggest canidates to play MLB. Yeah with Cowart being a little knicked up I am sure others will fill in Polk, Evans or whoever.

It really seems like the strong side will be one of the former 3-4 OLBs Orr, Anderson and maybe Pettway. And of course Wong when he comes back.

It really seems like the weakside needs quickness. Although Ryans might be a MLB down the road. I am sure they do not want to overwhelm him. Since Greenwood is over paid and over rated, I really seem him being here only this year, kinda like a stop gap for Ryans to develop.
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Greenway, Cowart, Anderson will be our starting LB's opening day. If their not, Pilly will run us out of Reliant stadium. And a winable game will go down the tubes. No Rookie is going to cover Westbrook. I don't care who he is. AND...further...you better have a SSLB with some lead in is pocket to jam and slow down the Pilly TE's at the line of scrimage or...it's going to be embarassing.
i assume you're his father..yes?? also id guess you dont watch many eagles games...westbrook is a poor mans LT in that hes nowhere near as good of a rusher but has good hands and receiving skills..he wont run all over us at all
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I can't really figure out any of the LBer moves..Exspecially the Wali Rainer move.I would expect Greenwood to be somewhere in the lineup along with maybe Cowart starting at MLB and maybe Peek on the WS..Something like this
....................................QB...RB
...WR ...SWR....TE,,X,,,X,,,C,,,X,,,,X...............WR
.....CB................DE DT,,,, DT,,,,,,DE.............CB
........................JB,,,SP,,,,,TJ,,,,,,,MW
............SS...SSLB,,,,,,,,MLB,,,WSLB ,,,,,,,,,,FS
.............?....M.G,,,,,,,,,,SC,,,,,,AP

Thats what I would think starting out because Greenwood has played SSLB and Coward has played MLB but who knows who will earn the spots till we get on the field.I know TJ should be rotated off the bench.The rookie should get a little time,,heck,,they didn't get the LBers or any players I was targeting...The'll figure it out and we will have a good team when we start adjusting and fixing things...It may not be the best we will do but will compete and get better as players learn there assignments ..Peek can play anywhere,,he has that kind of talent,the question is he's never done it..

This year is a free year for the young coaches but that don't mean we don't want to win..Were just going to have to let them feel what its like to be 1 and 15..I hope we don';t have to go there but sometimes its the best thing..I know the lord is going to be with us all and were going to have fun ,,,2 wins and were better 9 wins and I think the staff went above expectation of the average football man...I still want a playoff!

We are laying the foundation for the future this year..I think a 15 rank on defense is ok,,because we just didn't know what we have but we will come draft day 2007!

Greenwood may be over rated by some but by others he could be the minute man off the bench because he has played every position in the 43 and is a 100 tackle + guy..Heck the guy never can get settled in because he's always being moved every year..

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I haven't a clue as to how many LB's will be carried this next season, one or two may make the team basically for their special teams play, but here is how I see these positional battles shaping up going into training camp:

Greenwood and Ryans as the weak side LB's;
Cowart and Rainer in the middle;
and with Anderson battling Polk on the strong side.

Pettway may figure in the equation on the strongside, but will probabably not make the starting roster. Orr may be there somewhere and has the best chance of being the seventh LB. Ryans will be taking snaps also in the middle and Wong will be starting the season on the PUP list.

I do think that even as a rookie, Ryans will prove to be our best LB coming out of training camp, and how do you not start your best player? I think we may see Greenwood, Ryans and Polk starting on opening day.

Evans, Pierce and Green will be training camp fodder. Fred Brock will be on the practice squad.

To backtrack a little, Orr came out of Michigan as a DE and has excellant pass rush abilities. But as an every down LB, he may be too limited in his skill level, being limited to a third down, blitz specialist.

Negative comments, going into the '03 draft, was that Orr was vulnerable at the point of attack in run support, lacked change-of-direction skills and was weak in over-all awareness. He has never been projected as more than a 3rd down specialist; whereas Charlie Anderson, coming out of Mississippi as a DE, had the skills to be projected to OLB at the pro level. His progress will be interesting since he carries a label of having promising upside.
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I can't really figure out any of the LBer moves..Exspecially the Wali Rainer move.I would expect Greenwood to be somewhere in the lineup along with maybe Cowart starting at MLB and maybe Peek on the WS..Something like this
....................................QB...RB
...WR ...SWR....TE,,X,,,X,,,C,,,X,,,,X...............WR
.....CB................DE DT,,,, DT,,,,,,DE.............CB
........................JB,,,SP,,,,,TJ,,,,,,,MW
............SS...SSLB,,,,,,,,MLB,,,WSLB ,,,,,,,,,,FS
.............?....M.G,,,,,,,,,,SC,,,,,,AP

Thats what I would think starting out because Greenwood has played SSLB and Coward has played MLB but who knows who will earn the spots till we get on the field.I know TJ should be rotated off the bench.The rookie should get a little time,,heck,,they didn't get the LBers or any players I was targeting...The'll figure it out and we will have a good team when we start adjusting and fixing things...It may not be the best we will do but will compete and get better as players learn there assignments ..Peek can play anywhere,,he has that kind of talent,the question is he's never done it..

This year is a free year for the young coaches but that don't mean we don't want to win..Were just going to have to let them feel what its like to be 1 and 15..I hope we don';t have to go there but sometimes its the best thing..I know the lord is going to be with us all and were going to have fun ,,,2 wins and were better 9 wins and I think the staff went above expectation of the average football man...I still want a playoff!

We are laying the foundation for the future this year..I think a 15 rank on defense is ok,,because we just didn't know what we have but we will come draft day 2007!

Greenwood may be over rated by some but by others he could be the minute man off the bench because he has played every position in the 43 and is a 100 tackle + guy..Heck the guy never can get settled in because he's always being moved every year..
You have Mario on the wrong side. And I hate to break it to you but right now I think that there is little chance that TJ will beat out Anthony Weaver for the 3 gap DT spot.
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