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texflex513 · 06-29-2006

Im not really an x's and o's guy so tell me Is it a requirement for our wideouts to be superior blockers for our running game to flourish? And how good are AJ and EM at blocking?

AFD1717 · 06-29-2006

I'm not a brilliant Xs and Os guy either, but I do know that long runs are usually a function of WRs blocking DBs. Typically you want your RB to be able to outrun LBs and D-linemen, but the DBs catch them from behind if the WRs don't block. I would assume that WR blocking on the playside is pretty important in this Zone Scheme because it is about blocking an area and operating in space, but we should probably get Texans Chick or somebody to give us a better answer.

(Welcome to the board, by the way)

michaelm · 06-29-2006

I'm not sure that its necessary to have good blockers at WR for us to 'flourish' in the running game, but to maximize the potential of any running game it is obviously better to have good blocking at that position.
I believe that we will have exceptional blocking from our wideouts this year from WR1 to WR3.
I don't have a hard time at all imagining that we will have among the very best blocking receiver corps in the league.

**HOU-TEX** · 06-29-2006

I wouldn't say superior but I would say they'd need to be decent in order for us to get that break away run. Once the RB get's past the line and LB's the only D that's left is the secondary. So with that being said the WR's would have to be decent if not good blockers in order to get that long run for a TD.

Our WR's are most definetly big enough to be good blockers. IMO

wrestler4life · 06-29-2006

Yes. For the running game to flourish, you must have good blocking recievers. DB's are responsible for turning the run back to the inside where the bigger guys are, and safeties are big run stoppers as well. Without good blocking on those guys, most runs would have to go through the middle, which is the heart of the defense.

**Runner** · 06-29-2006

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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

Our WR's are most definetly big enough to be good blockers.

Yes they are, if they have the attitude to block. That has as much to do with it as size.

**jerek** · 06-29-2006

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Originally Posted by Runner

Yes they are, if they have the attitude to block. That has as much to do with it as size.

True. All you're really expected to do as a WR is just go get in the way. That's more than a lot of WR's do on most plays. That's attitude more than it is physical specifications.

**HOU-TEX** · 06-29-2006

Yea, I've even seen Randy Moss get in the way of (block) a couple DB's.

06-29-2006

In the Zone offense especially, the WR's won't always be blocking the DB's...Alot of times they will just be simply running them out of the play...The reason for this is to make the zone play actions, and bootlegs look the same as the runs...But of course once the DB's recognize run it would help if the WR's could put a body on someone...

**edo783** · 06-29-2006

It's important if your looking for more than a 5-7 yard run and fortunatly both our starting WR are pretty solid blockers. In fact, AJ said a year or two ago, that he really likes to slam it to a DB.

JohnGalt · 06-29-2006

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texflex513 · 06-29-2006

thanks for the feedback guys

Hulk75 · 06-29-2006

They are both good at blocking, Dre comming out of college they said loved to block.

MorKnolle · 06-29-2006

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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

I wouldn't say superior but I would say they'd need to be decent in order for us to get that break away run. Once the RB get's past the line and LB's the only D that's left is the secondary. So with that being said the WR's would have to be decent if not good blockers in order to get that long run for a TD.

Our WR's are most definetly big enough to be good blockers. IMO

I definitely agree, Andre Johnson, Eric Moulds, and Kevin Walter should all be good blockers for us, they are all big and pretty strong, although WRs blocking is mainly important on runs to the outside (not sure how many of those we'll see) or else on runs that end up breaking downfield.

**HOU-TEX** · 06-29-2006

[quote=MorKnolle]I definitely agree, Andre Johnson, Eric Moulds, and Kevin Walter should all be good blockers for us, they are all big and pretty strong, although WRs blocking is mainly important on runs to the outside (not sure how many of those we'll see) or else on runs that end up breaking downfield.[/QUOTE]

That brings up a question I have. I remember a break away run against the titans a couple years ago by DD and he was chased down from behind about 30 yds downfield. Among the newly aquired RB's we have, is there one that might be able to out run the DB's once past the secondary?

MorKnolle · 06-29-2006

[quote=HOU-TEX]

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Originally Posted by MorKnolle

I definitely agree, Andre Johnson, Eric Moulds, and Kevin Walter should all be good blockers for us, they are all big and pretty strong, although WRs blocking is mainly important on runs to the outside (not sure how many of those we'll see) or else on runs that end up breaking downfield.[/QUOTE]

That brings up a question I have. I remember a break away run against the titans a couple years ago by DD and he was chased down from behind about 30 yds downfield. Among the newly aquired RB's we have, is there one that might be able to out run the DB's once past the secondary?

Wali Lundy is faster than Davis, but I don't know if he'll outrun the majority of CBs in the league, very few RBs do, just depends if he can outrun everyone else and break the CBs tackle.

texflex513 · 06-29-2006

read somewhere that chris taylor is pretty fast from indy not sure if he will make the roster though.

**HOU-TEX** · 06-29-2006

What do you think the odds are of Lundy getting PT? IMO, DD might not be ready to go 100%. I would think we'd want to have the quicker of the backs in the game for the cutback then North/South speed.

texflex513 · 06-29-2006

The way it looks now lundy would be our guy if DD is not ready with smith being used for short yardage situations

El Tejano · 06-29-2006

Rhodes has impressed with his break out speed.

06-29-2006	#1
texflex513 All Pro Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cincinnati, OH Age: 37 Posts: 615 Rep Power: 7	Question about offense Im not really an x's and o's guy so tell me Is it a requirement for our wideouts to be superior blockers for our running game to flourish? And how good are AJ and EM at blocking? Last edited by texflex513; 06-29-2006 at 10:45 AM.

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AFD1717 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, TX Age: 34 Posts: 326 Rep Power: 8	I'm not a brilliant Xs and Os guy either, but I do know that long runs are usually a function of WRs blocking DBs. Typically you want your RB to be able to outrun LBs and D-linemen, but the DBs catch them from behind if the WRs don't block. I would assume that WR blocking on the playside is pretty important in this Zone Scheme because it is about blocking an area and operating in space, but we should probably get Texans Chick or somebody to give us a better answer. (Welcome to the board, by the way) __________________ "We ain't here for a long time, so we're here for a good time."

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michaelm vox nihili Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring, TX Section: 648 Age: 47 Posts: 5,088 Rep Power: 31857	I'm not sure that its necessary to have good blockers at WR for us to 'flourish' in the running game, but to maximize the potential of any running game it is obviously better to have good blocking at that position. I believe that we will have exceptional blocking from our wideouts this year from WR1 to WR3. I don't have a hard time at all imagining that we will have among the very best blocking receiver corps in the league. __________________ Every time you make a typo, the errorists win.

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HOU-TEX Ah, Football! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: P-land Age: 42 Posts: 14,150 Rep Power: 19780	I wouldn't say superior but I would say they'd need to be decent in order for us to get that break away run. Once the RB get's past the line and LB's the only D that's left is the secondary. So with that being said the WR's would have to be decent if not good blockers in order to get that long run for a TD. Our WR's are most definetly big enough to be good blockers. IMO __________________ "We wanted to make a statement, run the ball and make them like it." - Duane Brown

06-29-2006	#5
wrestler4life Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Camarillo, Ca. Age: 38 Posts: 318 Rep Power: 9	Yes. For the running game to flourish, you must have good blocking recievers. DB's are responsible for turning the run back to the inside where the bigger guys are, and safeties are big run stoppers as well. Without good blocking on those guys, most runs would have to go through the middle, which is the heart of the defense. __________________ "Be still, Taggert, be still!" Hedey (That's Hedley!) Lamarr

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real Guest Posts: n/a	In the Zone offense especially, the WR's won't always be blocking the DB's...Alot of times they will just be simply running them out of the play...The reason for this is to make the zone play actions, and bootlegs look the same as the runs...But of course once the DB's recognize run it would help if the WR's could put a body on someone...

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edo783 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, again. Posts: 7,700 Rep Power: 4640	It's important if your looking for more than a 5-7 yard run and fortunatly both our starting WR are pretty solid blockers. In fact, AJ said a year or two ago, that he really likes to slam it to a DB. __________________ De Oppresso Liber

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JohnGalt Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 97 Rep Power: 9	deleted __________________ Everyone is entitled to MY opinion.

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Hulk75 Hall of Fame Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Santa Cruz,California Age: 32 Posts: 1,380 Rep Power: 410	They are both good at blocking, Dre comming out of college they said loved to block.

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El Tejano Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,748 Rep Power: 6842	Rhodes has impressed with his break out speed.

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