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Old 06-20-2006   #1
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Carr had better statistics, Vince obviously had the better team and won a NC, so it depends on how you asking the question.
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I would say David Carr because he didnt have much help on that Bulldogs squad so....DC
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I would say David Carr because he didnt have much help on that Bulldogs squad so....DC
accomplishing nothing with a bad team doesnt make a good career
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accomplishing nothing with a bad team doesnt make a good career
Really? Well maybe not more than College Hall of Fame and Pro Football Hall of Fame--almost accomplishing nothing (no bowl games) and narrowly averting no SB's with the addition of a running game. Guess who?

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He attended Stanford University where he played both football and baseball. His last football game at Stanford was one of the most famous games of all time, the 1982 Big Game versus the University of California, Berkeley (also known as Cal), which ended with "The Play", an amazing (and infamous) play with five lateral passes that allowed Cal to win the game. Although Elway never led his team to a bowl game, he had an accomplished college career. In his four seasons (19791982) at Stanford, he completed 774 passes for 9,349 yards and 77 touchdowns. His 24 touchdown passes in 1982 led the nation, and he graduated with nearly every Stanford and Pacific-10 career record for passing and total offense. He won Pac-10 Player of the Year honors in 1980 and 1982, was a consensus All-American, and finished second in Heisman Trophy balloting as a senior. Although his team never qualified to play in a college bowl game, in 2000, Elway was enshrined in the College Football Hall of Fame.
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These kinds of debates go nowhere because nobody agrees on the standards and usually adopts a standard to achieve a desired result.
That's right and I am now convinced that Carr is the next Elway.

Thanks for that, swtbound.
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Carr was the better qb.
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These kinds of debates go nowhere because nobody agrees on the standards and usually adopts a standard to achieve a desired result.
I agree. I think Bosworth is in the College Hall of Fame also

also after looking at it... they have like 10,000 people in the College HOF. So pretty much if you got your named called more then once by the announcer on the loudspeakers, you get a ticket to the College Hall of Fame.
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I had never heard of Carr until the summer before his senior year . Vince I knew about when he was in High School . Carr had a monster senior year while Vince had two good years and two great bowl games . I figure Vince got his team to the Rose Bowl twice and dominated both games so I give the who's the best QB award to Vince .

John Elway was the best QB prospect that I have seen , so Carr and VY don't play in his league . Having said that , Elway struggled his first couple of years with Denver so I don't care how good Vince looks in camp ... he can't carry a team for 16 games as a rookie .
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Champoinships speak volumes !

Its gotta be Vince .
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There was a debate with this in the other thread and now it has it's own thread

But Carr definately had a better college career. A championship says the team whole team got it done, not just one particular player.
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Carr, without a doubt. He did so much his Senior year that I was not surprised he took 1st rank in his draft.
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VY he had one of the best preformances in the national championship ... i like david carr as a player but vince yound did so much 30-2 record best by a QB at UT dont think carr had that good of a record

Vince Young (and a national championship)
2006 - Manning Award winner
2006 - Rose Bowl MVP (at end of 2005 season)
2005 - Finalist for Heisman Trophy
2005 - The Cingular Player of the Year Award
2005 - All-American Offensive Player
2005 - The Maxwell Award - College Player of the Year
2005 - Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award
2005 - 1st Team All-Big 12 Conference honors (unanimous decision)
2005 - Rose Bowl Most Valuable Player (at end of 2004 season)
2004 - Honorable mention All-Big 12 Conference honors
2003 - Big 12 Conference Offensive Freshman of the Year

David Carr
Carr's 2001 Awards
Johnny Unitas Award
Football News Offensive Player of the Year
Sammy Baugh Award
WAC Offensive Player of the Year
First-team All-WAC
CNN/SI Honorable mention All-American
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accomplishing nothing with a bad team doesnt make a good career
You make me laugh bro, strap it up before you make comments like that.

Guy shattered every record Fresno ever had, on the field and in the weight room............You never saw a game so you cant really say he accomplished nothing.
Yea he did nothing besides get drafted #1..................

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David Carr was one of the most successful athletes ever to play for Fresno State. He was the starting quarterback during the 2000 and 2001 seasons after redshirting in 1999. Under his leadership, the bulldogs went 7-5 and 11-3. In his senior season the team beat Colorado, Oregon State, and Wisconsin, all members of BCS conferences. There was speculation about whether the Bulldogs would qualify for a BCS bid, something unprecedented for a 'Mid Major' conference team. During his collegiate career Carr completed 587 of 934 passes for 7,849 yards. He threw 70 touchdowns versus 23 interceptions. Carr collected many honors and awards during his final college season, most notably the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award.
That was only 2 years worth..........I doubt that is nothing.............O and do you know who holds the record for the most recieving yards for a WR in a bowl game? Rodney Wright Fresno State 299 yards..........Carr threw for 531 yards.............

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Michigan State overcame a spectacular effort by Fresno State's
David Carr, who passed for a career-high 531 yards and four
touchdowns in an audition for the NFL draft. Carr, who is
expected to be a high first-round pick, completed 35-of-56
passes.

The Bulldogs rushed for just 29 yards on 22 carries.

"It was one of those games where we scored and they scored. Back
and forth," Carr said. "Our defense played really well in the
second half. It was a great game and it was a shame someone had
to lose."

Among those impressed by Carr's performance was his counterpart.

"He is a tremendous quarterback," Smoker said. "I watched what
he did because he sets the standard as one of the best
quarterbacks in the country."

Rodney Wright grabbed 13 passes for a school-record 299 yards
for Fresno State (11-3), which scored 261 points in its final
five regular-season games.
He did all that with only 29 yards rushing for the team. When the Defense knew he was throwing the ball.

Your deffinition of nothing is scary.
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Could we add David Klingler to the poll?
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You make me laugh bro, strap it up before you make comments like that.

Guy shattered every record Fresno ever had, on the field and in the weight room............You never saw a game so you cant really say he accomplished nothing.
Yea he did nothing besides get drafted #1..................

That was only 2 years worth..........I doubt that is nothing.............O and do you know who holds the record for the most recieving yards for a WR in a bowl game? Rodney Wright Fresno State 299 yards..........Carr threw for 531 yards.............


He did all that with only 29 yards rushing for the team. When the Defense knew he was throwing the ball.

Your deffinition of nothing is scary.
Wow!!!! Carr led his team to a loss against a 7-5 (32nd ranked) Michigan State team. And that's the highlight of his college career???
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Could we add David Klingler to the poll?
That's what I was thinking too... Klingler and Andre Ware.
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Wow!!!! Carr led his team to a loss against a 7-5 (32nd ranked) Michigan State team. And that's the highlight of his college career???
This is priceless. So throwing for 521 yds and 4 TD's is not doing his part?--it isn't a great game from the QB because his team couldn't rush or play D? Y'all are drawing way too narrow a line and one obviously chosen to pick a certain person. But for Michael Huff stopping White, by this standard VY's Rose Bowl performance would have been worthless. That's silly--VY's game was epic either way.
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Vince Young: Led team to National Championshsip
David Carr: Did not lead team to National Championship

Discussion ends right there.
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