Why does everyone hate C.C. Brown? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

DominickDavisFan76 · 06-15-2006

I dont know what everyones deal is with C.C. Brown...What did he do wrong for the texans....NOTHING!!

He had the most tackles for all the backs. Plus that was his first year.
You cant expect a rookie that was taken in the 6th round to just go out their and lead his team to a 16-0 season. That is why their is no "I" in team.

Because he cant do it all by himself

Yes he doesnt have the speed that the texans need on our defense.
But Rodney Harrison is the slowest Safety (that starts) and He does pretty damn good.

So I honestly think that with the coaching of Richard Smith and some coaching from Gary Kubiak, I think this guy can make the Pro Bowl in 3 years.
Or start for the Texans till then. So why does everyone think he is terrible.

TexanFan881 · 06-15-2006

I don't think anybody hates him. I just think that people think we need more help at the safety position because C.C. is an average player right now and the position can be upgraded. I don't think anyone has anything against C.C., I like him a matter of fact, but he might need a little more time to reach his full potential and getting a veteran safety could give him some time to learn and we could upgrade the position.

**Trap_Star** · 06-15-2006

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Originally Posted by DominickDavisFan76

I dont know what everyones deal is with C.C. Brown...What did he do wrong for the texans....NOTHING!!

He had the most tackles for all the backs. Plus that was his first year.
You cant expect a rookie that was taken in the 6th round to just go out their and lead his team to a 16-0 season. That is why their is no "I" in team.

Because he cant do it all by himself

Yes he doesnt have the speed that the texans need on our defense.
But Rodney Harrison is the slowest Safety (that starts) and He does pretty damn good.
So I honestly think that with the coaching of Richard Smith and some coaching from Gary Kubiak, I think this guy can make the Pro Bowl in 3 years.
Or start for the Texans till then. So why does everyone think he is terrible.

Harrison is 34 or 35? He's basically the 5th LB for the Patriots. His experience and instinct make up for his lack of speed. I wish him the best on his recovery.
Oh and by the way, i dont hate CC.....

Scooter · 06-15-2006

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Originally Posted by DominickDavisFan76

He had the most tackles for all the backs. Plus that was his first year. You cant expect a rookie that was taken in the 6th round to just go out their and lead his team to a 16-0 season. That is why their is no "I" in team.

maybe i missed something, but i havent seen a lot of "hate" for C.C. what i'm quoting is i think where you and some others are giving him a little more credit than he deserves so far. he played exceptionally well for a 6th round rookie, and likely has a solid future in this league as he matures. he didnt however play near the level of most starting free safeties, and is overwhelmingly outclassed by the upper level guys like lawyer milloy & ed reed. to put him even in the class of average to above average guys like mccree, adrian wilson, chris hope, etc is a big stretch. if something happens to earl and he moves to SS, i think he'll be more comfortable and a solid "8th in the box", but as a centerfielder, he's deffinately got his limitations ... most of which are inexperience. of course i hope for nothing but the best, and hope he developes into a great guy for us, but lets give him a chance to earn his rank.

hot pickle · 06-15-2006

i really like CC Brown, never hated him at all, always liked him, and i think hes part of the Military, so you cant really hate him

CMoak1982 · 06-15-2006

Brown for one is not slow, he ran 4.48 to 4.50 at pro day, he tends to play slow with diagnosing some things, when he gets more comfortable he'll play faster

Porky · 06-15-2006

Who hates CC Brown? I have never seen a post I would call hate-filled toward CC. IS he ever going to be more than a decent back-up on a good defense? Probably not, but that's not hating. That's simply truth telling.

**Texans_Chick** · 06-15-2006

Who's the joker who hates CC Brown???? I pity the fool cuz I'm gonna beat em!

I think most of the commentary here was related to the fact that it said a lot about the state of the Texans defense and our depth last year that CC Brown was your Texans starter--a rookie 6th round choice.

CC Brown did amazingly well given his circumstances but you would hope to see less mistakes from your starter.

Insideop · 06-15-2006

I have to agree with others on this thread, I don't know of anyone who hates or said anything bad about C.C. Brown. He may not be on a par with the top safeties in the league yet, but he was only a rookie last year. Given some time and proper coaching, I think he could be very good. JMHO!

LORK 88 · 06-15-2006

I dont think anyone hates CC, I just think that others feel that he shouldnt be at FS (which i disagree with) and that Earl is the better SS. Granted, Brown needs to work on his coverage skills, but for the most part I think he could work out well enough for us with Earl as our FS and SS.

cj5776 · 06-15-2006

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Originally Posted by Texans_Chick

Who's the joker who hates CC Brown???? I pity the fool cuz I'm gonna beat em!

Two words... Coast Guard. Can you really take someone serious who was in the Coast Guard, come on. I mean Army or Marines that would be different, but Coast Guard?

(yes I am joking)

**HARRYJ** · 06-15-2006

I'll say it! I hate him!

cj5776 · 06-15-2006

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Originally Posted by HARRYJ

I'll say it! I hate him!

Yeah and I hate people that are not loyal to the Texans but still post, what's wrong with the Eagles Meassage Board, are there not enough Eagles fans who can write messages more than 5 words long?

Texan in Japan · 06-15-2006

CC Brown would have been a higher draft choice except for the fear that his Nat'l Guard commitment may effect his ability to play in the NFL. It didn't and despite a subpar defense, he played well and showed the potential to be even better.

I think Kubiak said he's comfortable with the talent in our DBs. While many on the board seem to want another CB or S, our head coach pursues RBs and FBs. That should tell us something!

**edo783** · 06-15-2006

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Originally Posted by cj5776

Two words... Coast Guard. Can you really take someone serious who was in the Coast Guard, come on. I mean Army or Marines that would be different, but Coast Guard?

(yes I am joking)

Be carefull with that kind of talk. Them Puddle Pirates can be a tough crowd.

That's why they are all ove 6ft tall, so when the boat sinks they can wade ashore.

Texas · 06-15-2006

I dont but he's just average....I want a standout on one of our Safeties.

DominickDavisFan76 · 06-15-2006

Ok i said that wrong... Im sorry!
I just think that a lot of ppl think that C.C. Brown doesnt deserve to start and I think he has the potential and enough skill to start thats all.

TexanFan881 · 06-15-2006

He deserves to start on our team but it would be nice to upgade him with a veteran to teach him a few tricks.

TK_Gamer · 06-15-2006

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Originally Posted by Scooter

maybe i missed something, but i havent seen a lot of "hate" for C.C. what i'm quoting is i think where you and some others are giving him a little more credit than he deserves so far. he played exceptionally well for a 6th round rookie, and likely has a solid future in this league as he matures. he didnt however play near the level of most starting free safeties, and is overwhelmingly outclassed by the upper level guys like lawyer milloy & ed reed. to put him even in the class of average to above average guys like mccree, adrian wilson, chris hope, etc is a big stretch. if something happens to earl and he moves to SS, i think he'll be more comfortable and a solid "8th in the box", but as a centerfielder, he's deffinately got his limitations ... most of which are inexperience. of course i hope for nothing but the best, and hope he developes into a great guy for us, but lets give him a chance to earn his rank.

exactly my feelings, I think we should move cc to SS and pick up some help for the FS spot. that position requires more speed than cc is capable of and quickness, when you go up against class A recievers you have to have that edge in speed and at the least quickness so you can come over and help even if yer going the wrong way. I think we should have kept mcree myself, but im not the coach.

CoastalTexan · 06-15-2006

I think he is in the Mississippi National Gaurd, right?

06-15-2006	#1
DominickDavisFan76 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 33 Posts: 377 Rep Power: 9	Why does everyone hate C.C. Brown? I dont know what everyones deal is with C.C. Brown...What did he do wrong for the texans....NOTHING!! He had the most tackles for all the backs. Plus that was his first year. You cant expect a rookie that was taken in the 6th round to just go out their and lead his team to a 16-0 season. That is why their is no "I" in team. Because he cant do it all by himself Yes he doesnt have the speed that the texans need on our defense. But Rodney Harrison is the slowest Safety (that starts) and He does pretty damn good. So I honestly think that with the coaching of Richard Smith and some coaching from Gary Kubiak, I think this guy can make the Pro Bowl in 3 years. Or start for the Texans till then. So why does everyone think he is terrible.

06-15-2006	#2
TexanFan881 Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Illinois Age: 23 Posts: 2,794 Rep Power: 580	I don't think anybody hates him. I just think that people think we need more help at the safety position because C.C. is an average player right now and the position can be upgraded. I don't think anyone has anything against C.C., I like him a matter of fact, but he might need a little more time to reach his full potential and getting a veteran safety could give him some time to learn and we could upgrade the position. __________________ Proud Adoptee Of Our Future Starting Running Back Chris Taylor

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Porky Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 11,346 Rep Power: 15601	Who hates CC Brown? I have never seen a post I would call hate-filled toward CC. IS he ever going to be more than a decent back-up on a good defense? Probably not, but that's not hating. That's simply truth telling. __________________ Your local CruiseOne Vacation specialist. www.firstclasscruising.biz Visit me on Facebook.

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Texans_Chick Utopian Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,950 Rep Power: 22105	Who's the joker who hates CC Brown???? I pity the fool cuz I'm gonna beat em! I think most of the commentary here was related to the fact that it said a lot about the state of the Texans defense and our depth last year that CC Brown was your Texans starter--a rookie 6th round choice. CC Brown did amazingly well given his circumstances but you would hope to see less mistakes from your starter. __________________ More on the Texans? Please check TexansChick Hou Chronicle Blog & AOL Sports-Texans FanHouse & Twitter @StephStradley

06-15-2006	#10
LORK 88 Wreck'em Ŧech! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Tech Age: 26 Posts: 1,205 Rep Power: 201	I dont think anyone hates CC, I just think that others feel that he shouldnt be at FS (which i disagree with) and that Earl is the better SS. Granted, Brown needs to work on his coverage skills, but for the most part I think he could work out well enough for us with Earl as our FS and SS. __________________

06-15-2006	#5
hot pickle السلام عليكم Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Age: 24 Posts: 2,433 Rep Power: 2073	i really like CC Brown, never hated him at all, always liked him, and i think hes part of the Military, so you cant really hate him

06-15-2006	#6
CMoak1982 Rookie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston Age: 30 Posts: 52 Rep Power: 8	Brown for one is not slow, he ran 4.48 to 4.50 at pro day, he tends to play slow with diagnosing some things, when he gets more comfortable he'll play faster

06-15-2006	#9
Insideop Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Location: In the "Control Room" Age: 58 Posts: 1,564 Rep Power: 4854	I have to agree with others on this thread, I don't know of anyone who hates or said anything bad about C.C. Brown. He may not be on a par with the top safeties in the league yet, but he was only a rookie last year. Given some time and proper coaching, I think he could be very good. JMHO!

06-15-2006	#12
HARRYJ A Great Pretender Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: N.J., Exit 8, baby! Age: 56 Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 123	I'll say it! I hate him! __________________ Please allow me to intoduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and fame..... Thanks AzWhoopr, for my siggy!

06-15-2006	#14
Texan in Japan Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colorado Age: 53 Posts: 469 Rep Power: 1536	CC Brown would have been a higher draft choice except for the fear that his Nat'l Guard commitment may effect his ability to play in the NFL. It didn't and despite a subpar defense, he played well and showed the potential to be even better. I think Kubiak said he's comfortable with the talent in our DBs. While many on the board seem to want another CB or S, our head coach pursues RBs and FBs. That should tell us something! __________________ "You can't always get what you want...you get what you need." Texan, back in Texas!

06-15-2006	#16
Texas Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Clear Lake Age: 24 Posts: 1,030 Rep Power: 9	I dont but he's just average....I want a standout on one of our Safeties.

06-15-2006	#20
CoastalTexan Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 459 Rep Power: 28	I think he is in the Mississippi National Gaurd, right?

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