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Old 06-15-2006   #1
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Former houston LT, Marcus spears was just on 610 and had some interesing points about Carr, Wand. He was High on David as far as his toughness and character and said he was a good teammate. He pointed out that Davis kept getting up and didn't throw his teammates under the bus in the media as some QB's have. He noted that Seth Wand has the physical attributes to be a good LT but said He questions his meanness. I think the wording was that someone needed to put some gunpowder in his food. He said he needed to play with more attitude but He Could be good.
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I think Spears pointed out something great about Carr. How many QBs these days who are struggling under the same conditions as Carr would have the patience and professionalism to handle it the way Carr has.
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we all know that carr is tough and honorable... we just need to see how well he can quarterback an offense. we should find out this season.
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Its still worth mentioning when a former teammate (who has nothing to lose/gain) goes on air and makes a point of saying it.
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Its still worth mentioning when a former teammate (who has nothing to lose/gain) goes on air and makes a point of saying it.
Do you mean no one should say "what do you expect him to say?"
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I heard the interview, and he's a nice guy. He did have some good insight into DC and Wand, as mentioned.

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Its still worth mentioning when a former teammate (who has nothing to lose/gain) goes on air and makes a point of saying it.
yep, that's true.

But he does want a job with the Texans media department, so what did you expect him to say? (just kidding, Runner!)
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I think Spears pointed out something great about Carr. How many QBs these days who are struggling under the same conditions as Carr would have the patience and professionalism to handle it the way Carr has.
I am going to interchange some words from the quote above,

How many head coaches these days who are struggling under the same conditions as Capers would have had the patience and professionalism to handle it the way Capers did.

How fart did Capers get that?

It's about W's and performing, that's it and that's that. Why is it that Terrell Owens can still play in the NFL? The guy is a complete jerk and I am sure no one will argue that point.

I am tired of all this Carr crap, particularly if he is a nice guy, family man, or whatever. He can either win games or not. There are no excuses in football. He isn't paid millions to be a good or nice guy.
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in his case, yes.

I'm not trying to express an opinion on Carr with this thread. Just reporting on an interview I just heard and noting that Spears is now retired and has no reason not to honestly state his opinion. He also said he expected Kubiacs scheme to work well here and help the team and Carr especially succeed.

He said he thought it strange that he and wand kept swapping out at LT all during games. HE said one would be in for running plays while the other was in for pass plays. I dont remember which was which, maybe someone else will.
That does seem goofy as it would let defenses know whats coming.

BUT

He played in the 7-9 season, which was our best so maybe it worked ok.--naah
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Spears on passing plays and Wand on running plays.
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But he does want a job with the Texans media department, so what did you expect him to say? (just kidding, Runner!)
Good one.
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Yes, that was just stupid. The AM guys were calling that during the games.
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Spears on passing plays and Wand on running plays.
They did that for one game about 3/4 of the way through the 2004 season. I think it was the final touch (along with which TE was in) to fully announcing our intentions to the defense. It was a failed experiment and they went back to Wand full time.
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I am going to interchange some words from the quote above,

How many head coaches these days who are struggling under the same conditions as Capers would have had the patience and professionalism to handle it the way Capers did.

How fart did Capers get that?

It's about W's and performing, that's it and that's that. Why is it that Terrell Owens can still play in the NFL? The guy is a complete jerk and I am sure no one will argue that point.

I am tired of all this Carr crap, particularly if he is a nice guy, family man, or whatever. He can either win games or not. There are no excuses in football. He isn't paid millions to be a good or nice guy.
Dude whats your problem with the guy, did he take your girlfriend in high school, is it because he has everything you want............HATER IN THE HOUSE, some people have some consrtuctive things to say about the guy, you just come off as angry and pissed at the world when talking about this dude.

Would it be different if he was a rude guy that tossed people under the bus, yelled at his teammates, beat his wife, killed some body and O he wins games thats all that matters.

Yes his record as a QB is not were it should be but what is Andre Johnsons record as a starter for the Texans and Chester Pitts, Steve McKinney, Domanick Davis, All I am saying for the 1,000,000,000 time is that he could not do it by himself. People on your team should be there to make the catch for you in the clutch or throw just one more block and give him just a few more seconds to get the ball off..............
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It's about W's and performing, that's it and that's that. Why is it that Terrell Owens can still play in the NFL? The guy is a complete jerk and I am sure no one will argue that point.

I am tired of all this Carr crap, particularly if he is a nice guy, family man, or whatever. He can either win games or not. There are no excuses in football. He isn't paid millions to be a good or nice guy.
That he doesn't slag his teammates is a football issue.

I know Captain Obvious should be saying this but here goes:

Football is a team sport.

What rookie would have done well with this scheme, a offensive line with people playing outta position and learning the position on the fly, and all baby receivers, running backs, and most of the tight ends?

As you can tell with what has been said at camp, having veteran leadership really helps player development. We haven't had much of any of that--veterans on the offensive side of the ball that have had success in the league.
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How fart did Capers get that?
Hahahahaha... Fart.
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Dude whats your problem with the guy, did he take your girlfriend in high school, is it because he has everything you want............HATER IN THE HOUSE, some people have some consrtuctive things to say about the guy, you just come off as angry and pissed at the world when talking about this dude.

Would it be different if he was a rude guy that tossed people under the bus, yelled at his teammates, beat his wife, killed some body and O he wins games thats all that matters.

Yes his record as a QB is not were it should be but what is Andre Johnsons record as a starter for the Texans and Chester Pitts, Steve McKinney, Domanick Davis, All I am saying for the 1,000,000,000 time is that he could not do it by himself. People on your team should be there to make the catch for you in the clutch or throw just one more block and give him just a few more seconds to get the ball off..............
You seem to be the angry one. In addition, making some reference to my dating life in high school is irrelevant to Carr, which is my point. You even go further to say Carr has everything I want. You are taking personal swipes at me and I simply expressing my point of view on Carr's play.

My point was an analogy how Capers was the same way as Carr and Capers was tossed. Why not explain that one?

Look I am sure Carr is great person from everything I have read and is a committed family guy. Which I think is a lot more admirable in life than being successful in the NFL.

But there are subtle truths to life. You either win or you don't. You have heard this one, "nice guys finish last." Both of those items are so true to the NFL.

No one, and I mean no one, gets to be successful in life at that stage by just being a good person. That is how the world works, like it or not.

So calm down and relax.

And remember this when Kubiak benches Carr, it won't be personal, it will be business! Just as my discussion of Carr.
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That he doesn't slag his teammates is a football issue.

I know Captain Obvious should be saying this but here goes:

Football is a team sport.

What rookie would have done well with this scheme, a offensive line with people playing outta position and learning the position on the fly, and all baby receivers, running backs, and most of the tight ends?

As you can tell with what has been said at camp, having veteran leadership really helps player development. We haven't had much of any of that--veterans on the offensive side of the ball that have had success in the league.
Which effects his play..........

Thank the LORD someone else said it besides me all the time...........
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That he doesn't slag his teammates is a football issue.

I know Captain Obvious should be saying this but here goes:

Football is a team sport.

What rookie would have done well with this scheme, a offensive line with people playing outta position and learning the position on the fly, and all baby receivers, running backs, and most of the tight ends?

As you can tell with what has been said at camp, having veteran leadership really helps player development. We haven't had much of any of that--veterans on the offensive side of the ball that have had success in the league.
Texans_Chick, you right really good stuff.

But, I am just hearing excuses about Carr. Why didn't anyone make excuses for Capers? He is just as good a guy as Carr.

Carr, needs to win period. If being a jerk along way happens, no one will care as long as he wins. That is my point.

It doesn't matter if he is nice, it is just an excuse.
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How fart did Capers get that?

Hahahahaha... Fart.



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Hahahahaha... Fart.
Yeah, I saw that when I was reading through it before I posted it and just laughed my ***** off and thought, people might do the same.

So, I didn't change it.

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I am tired of all this Carr crap, particularly if he is a nice guy, family man, or whatever. He can either win games or not. There are no excuses in football. He isn't paid millions to be a good or nice guy.

I don't know... we got a long way to go yet to be getting tired. I would take a nap or maybe go watch Daryl Hannah get pried from a walnut tree to recharge. I figure at the current rate... we have around two hundred and six more threads to go on Carr before the season starts. BY then the thread rate should increase by 2 to 3 times the current amount.
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Spears is saying the same stuff we are saying. He made a point to say he lacks a killer instinct ( or I should say has been lacking ). That's understandable. If you are always a nice guy.. well then you tend to always be a nice guy.

When a guy says you need to cut your breakfast with a little gunpowder and gasoline...thats what that means.
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The swapping out of tackles to broadcast your play is not that big of deal by itself. If you go 3 WRs or 4 WRs.. that will broadcast a pass as well. Capers could have just as well been trying to lull the defense into playing run and then popping them with a deep pass. Don't know with the information provided... also may have never worked exactly the way they planned because of failed runs or poor pass protection, didn't get the matchups they expected, etc.
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