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Old 05-29-2006   #1
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Do you think it was a good choice to release Aaron Glenn last year??? I mean look who we have in place of him Phillip Buchanon...just think if we would have just stayed with Glenn our defense would have been alot better...think Aaron Glenn, Dunta Robinson, Phillip Buchanon, Demarcus Faggins and Chris McKenzie...the dominance of Glenn aloud Dunta to get more oppurtunities and he took advantage of them...even if they wanted Buchanon to start the could have moved Glenn to Saftey or something...so what do you think about the Texans desicion a few years back on not keeping Glenn???
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Aaron Glenn could have moved to safety. Better than CC Brown
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Just like that fabulous Marcus Coleman decision??

Marcus Coleman was known as the more physical of the two I am fairly sure, so how is putting Glen back there supposed to be an upgrade.

Add to that putting an old man back there to slowly rot away or give a young talent game time to grow and I think that your idea is crazy.

Was it wrong to release Aaron Glenn though??? Yes. I think CB is one of the most important positions in football and you don't let a good one get away.
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Just like that fabulous Marcus Coleman decision??

Marcus Coleman was known as the more physical of the two I am fairly sure, so how is putting Glen back there supposed to be an upgrade.

Add to that putting an old man back there to slowly rot away or give a young talent game time to grow and I think that your idea is crazy.

Was it wrong to release Aaron Glenn though??? Yes. I think CB is one of the most important positions in football and you don't let a good one get away.
Aaron Glenn had groin surgery that required putting in a mesh. He has never been the same since. In Dallas he was a nickle corner, probably a very good one, but just a nickle. He doesn't have the necessary speed anymore.

A rumor went around a couple of years ago that Glenn had called the NFL about some practices that violated some rules. Just a rumor, but if it is true it probably hastened his departure.
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Do you think it was a good choice to release Aaron Glenn last year??? I mean look who we have in place of him Phillip Buchanon...just think if we would have just stayed with Glenn our defense would have been alot better...think Aaron Glenn, Dunta Robinson, Phillip Buchanon, Demarcus Faggins and Chris McKenzie...the dominance of Glenn aloud Dunta to get more oppurtunities and he took advantage of them...even if they wanted Buchanon to start the could have moved Glenn to Saftey or something...so what do you think about the Texans desicion a few years back on not keeping Glenn???
glenn was a great CB but i don't think that he would be as effective at safety. i believe capers released him cause he wanted a more younger and faster secondary e.g. p-buc i thought it was a great idea at the time but i thought wrong cause look how p-buc turned out.... but i still got faith in him hopefully mario will make him better
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Aaron Glenn WAS a great CB but he was a show-boater, he thought he was so fast he could recover from cheating at any time. which when he was younger he got away with. but by the time we got him he was already down a step or 3, and we found out he couldn't make up lost ground as well as he thought he could and he let a lot of balls go over his head. then the groin injury and end of story.
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personally i thought it was a bad idea to let AG go, he had a good season before we released him, sure he was getting up there in age, but him and D-Rob made a good secondary. And his age didnt affect him that much, he still could shut down recievers.
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Hopefully some kind of a pass rush will take some heat off of our Defensive Backs!

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personally i thought it was a bad idea to let AG go, he had a good season before we released him, sure he was getting up there in age, but him and D-Rob made a good secondary. And his age didnt affect him that much, he still could shut down recievers.
OK, everyone is gone now. Here is the story I heard at the time, fwiw.

It wasn't just about age and ability. He was the teams's rep to the players association. From that position he questioned the coaching staff on the intensity of pre-trainng camp practices that violated the collective bargaining agreement. Other teams in the league have gotten penalized for such violations, so they do happen. It is apparent that any sort of "speaking up" was frowned upon by the previous regime, and that weighed heavily into the keep/cut decision.
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Man the more things happen with this team the more I realize just how bad Capers and Co. were bad for our team.
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I think P-buc has a better support system this year, so I suspect he will fair better under Smith.

Getting rid of Glenn and Sharper in one season was a bad move. It made the defense young and amputated its leadership, which is why our defense was so resoundingly awful last year. However, Glenn is prospering under Parcells and should continue to excel in his program.
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Aaron Glenn had groin surgery that required putting in a mesh. He has never been the same since. In Dallas he was a nickle corner, probably a very good one, but just a nickle. He doesn't have the necessary speed anymore.
UH..... No he wasn't.......

well he was...... but he wasn't.... He started 7 games for the 'boys. & they were glad to have him. He played very well for them. Even as a Nickle corner, he'd add pretty good depth to our squad.......

I don't have a problem with Buchanon yet...... but even if you hate him, who would you start in his place??
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Glenn had six interceptions last year with Dallas right?
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Glenn had great reflexes and was a very good corner, he was better than Dunta, and possibly at this point probably still is. Sure Glenn gambled some, but that is the nature of the 3-4, corners are allowed to play agressive and they rely on the safeties to pick that up. This is something that we have never had really, a good safety play.
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He had 4 actually.
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Isn't that more than Dunta and PBuch?
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Man the more things happen with this team the more I realize just how bad Capers and Co. were bad for our team.
Why is it that when Capers and Co. are intense about training camp, everybody talks about how bad they were but when Kubiak talks about the same thing, everybody kisses his feet?
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Isn't that more than Dunta and PBuch?
Yes. Combined.
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OK, everyone is gone now. Here is the story I heard at the time, fwiw.

It wasn't just about age and ability. He was the teams's rep to the players association. From that position he questioned the coaching staff on the intensity of pre-trainng camp practices that violated the collective bargaining agreement. Other teams in the league have gotten penalized for such violations, so they do happen. It is apparent that any sort of "speaking up" was frowned upon by the previous regime, and that weighed heavily into the keep/cut decision.
Interesting. I wonder if other players ran into similar conflicts with the previous coaching staff. I have also wondered how much had to be done to irk Capers and Co. Wand was sidelined inexplicably the entire year. I'm not trying to lay him out as some kind of whistleblower, btw - just throwing out ideas.
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Never heard of that particular conflict with the coaching staff but wouldn't surprise me. It was a badly kept secret that Sharper was run out of town for questioning the coaching staff.

Cutting Glenn was absolutely a mistake. He was a defensive leader, a very smart veteran, seemed to command the respect of the other players, and even as old as he was, he still had a good 2-3 years of good football left in him. A move to FS would not have been out of the question. Don't know if any of you caught it, but they replayed a bite from an interview several years back, in which some of the league's then-top WRs (including T.O.) were asked who was the toughest corner they had ever faced. Glenn's name came up a lot. Even if we had chosen to reduce his playing time in accordance with his diminishing athleticism, he still would have been a valuable tutor and asset, and D-Rob always spoke very highly of him as a mentor.
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