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Old 05-26-2006   #1
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Lions | Martz thinks Bradford can be No. 2 WR
Thu, 25 May 2006 19:53:02 -0700

Clark Judge, of SportsLine.com, reports Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz loves Lions WR Corey Bradford's speed and sees him as the team's No. 2 wide receiver.


YEA, good luck with that Martz!! Im sure all of Houston can agree in unison when it comes to "Stone Hands" Bradford that he isnt #2 quality by a long shot. Yes, he has speed, but when he drops passes (like on 4th down to continue a potential game winning drive vs Jacksonville), then theres really no point to this having all that speed. Are they really giving up on all those WR draft picks already too . . . ?
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If Bradford is the 2nd best WR on that team, that is alot of wasted talent and money and draft picks. No wonder Harrington looked so bad
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Wow, wait until they get into games and he sees how many passes Bradford drops. He lost us one game last year by dropping that easy catch on 4th down right at the end, and if he is better than two of their three 1st round picks then they obviously made horrible choices with those picks and/or have given them 0 coaching the past few years. Isn't Kippy Brown the new WRs coach in Detroit too? Maybe he is pushing for Bradford a little to see him succeed.
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What about all the bad routes he runs also that lead to interceptions.
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A good QB such as Kitna will make any bad receiver look good. Did I just think that out loud?
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How about a bad receiver making a good QB look bad?
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Lions | Martz thinks Bradford can be No. 2 WR
Thu, 25 May 2006 19:53:02 -0700

Clark Judge, of SportsLine.com, reports Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz loves Lions WR Corey Bradford's speed and sees him as the team's No. 2 wide receiver.


YEA, good luck with that Martz!! Im sure all of Houston can agree in unison when it comes to "Stone Hands" Bradford that he isnt #2 quality by a long shot. Yes, he has speed, but when he drops passes (like on 4th down to continue a potential game winning drive vs Jacksonville), then theres really no point to this having all that speed. Are they really giving up on all those WR draft picks already too . . . ?
I still do not understand where this Bradford hands of stone thing comes from. The guy has fumbled THREE times in 105 games played. Sure he dropped some passes last season, but Andre Johnson wasn't out there looking like Randy Moss either. Fact is AJ tied for 18th in the AFC last season with 5 dropped passes in 13 games and Bradford wasn't even in the top 20 and he played in 16 games. Also AJ ranked #9 in the AFC last season in passes not caught with 51 passes not caught in 13 games, Bradford did not break the top 20 in 16 games played. Fact is Gaffney ranked #4 in the NFL in lowest dropped pass percentage with a dropped pass percentage of 1.5%, or 1 dropped pass out of 68 balls thrown to him, and he's not even with us anymore...
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Lions | Martz thinks Bradford can be No. 2 WR
Thu, 25 May 2006 19:53:02 -0700

Clark Judge, of SportsLine.com, reports Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz loves Lions WR Corey Bradford's speed and sees him as the team's No. 2 wide receiver.


YEA, good luck with that Martz!! Im sure all of Houston can agree in unison when it comes to "Stone Hands" Bradford that he isnt #2 quality by a long shot. Yes, he has speed, but when he drops passes (like on 4th down to continue a potential game winning drive vs Jacksonville), then theres really no point to this having all that speed. Are they really giving up on all those WR draft picks already too . . . ?

Lance Z this morning went off on this. It was pretty funny. Basically he said that if Martz says something like that, he needs to be immediately fired.

And went off on the riff about the only way it could be acceptable is if he went to management and said, "Hey, I am about to say something really stupid, but it is only for motivational purposes."
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Andre Johnson - 114 targets, 63 receptions, 5 drops, 55 % caught
Corey Bradford - 66 targets, 34 receptions, 3 drops, 51% caught
Jabar Gaffney - 90 targets, 55 receptions, 3 drops, 61% caught

So Andre dropped 4.38% of his targets, Bradford 4.54% of his targets, and Gaffney 3.3% of his targets. All in all, there's isn't a huge difference considering the additional number of targets AJ received. The real difference is that Bradford just isn't the all-around athlete that AJ is and he's dropped a couple that were extremely noticeable. (like the TD drop)

Stats from http://snap.stats.com/stats/nfl/league/new_glossary.asp
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I still do not understand where this Bradford hands of stone thing comes from. The guy has fumbled THREE times in 105 games played. Sure he dropped some passes last season, but Andre Johnson wasn't out there looking like Randy Moss either. Fact is AJ tied for 18th in the AFC last season with 5 dropped passes in 13 games and Bradford wasn't even in the top 20 and he played in 16 games. Also AJ ranked #9 in the AFC last season in passes not caught with 51 passes not caught in 13 games, Bradford did not break the top 20 in 16 games played. Fact is Gaffney ranked #4 in the NFL in lowest dropped pass percentage with a dropped pass percentage of 1.5%, or 1 dropped pass out of 68 balls thrown to him, and he's not even with us anymore...
Are you seriously taking stats this seriously? AJ got almost double the passes Bradford got, and had 1 sub par year. Bradford has made a name for himself in Houston dropping passes. Good luck Martz, you've got 3 WRs you need to worry about now!!
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I still do not understand where this Bradford hands of stone thing comes from. The guy has fumbled THREE times in 105 games played.
Being away from the local crowd, this was not the problem with Bradford. It is just my opinion ( so don't shoot ), but I think the fan center of mass opinion shifted negative from a few missed plays, much how Miller is shifted positive for one big made play.

The Houston offensive line for the past four years was never steady enough to hold a pocket 'long enough' to use Bradford's break away speed. The staff let him go not because of his lack of abilities, but because he is not a short break/quick WR that can get open quickly. ( which was part of our original plan getting cannon armed Carr and the OL set first )

I expect to see Kubiak use Mathis in the Bradford field stretching role. ( but he has to get defenses to believe Mathis can catch the ball )
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Are you seriously taking stats this seriously? AJ got almost double the passes Bradford got, and had 1 sub par year. Bradford has made a name for himself in Houston dropping passes. Good luck Martz, you've got 3 WRs you need to worry about now!!
Bradford drops a couple of passes that people remember then someone labels him hands of stone then half of the board starts calling him that. Just like when a player misses a few games in one season some label that player injury prone. Sure AJ got almost double the passes thrown to him than Bradford had, and had double the drops. I guess you should start calling AJ "hands of stone" also. One other thing, Bradford had 5 TD catches out of 34 receptions caompared to AJ's 2 TD's out of 63 receptions.
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bradford's hands are about as soft as a shot of McCormicks vodka.
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LOL that brings back some memories of rough nights . . .
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Lions | Bradford works with first-team offense
Wed, 31 May 2006 13:14:36 -0700

Tom Kowalski, of mLive.com, reports Detroit Lions WR Corey Bradford worked with the first-team offense at wide receiver during the team's organized activity Wednesday, May 31.

Lions | Rogers works with third-team offense
Wed, 31 May 2006 13:15:18 -0700

Tom Kowalski, of mLive.com, reports Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers worked with the third-team offense at wide receiver during the team's organized activity Wednesday, May 31.

Lions | M. Williams misses OTA
Wed, 31 May 2006 13:13:34 -0700

Tom Kowalski, of mLive.com, reports Detroit Lions WR Mike Williams (unknown) did not participate in the team's organized activity Wednesday, May 31, due to a minor injury.
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Don't compare Bradford's stats with AJ's. Bradford did not face double or tripe coverage like AJ. AJ played hurt and was obviously frustrated last year.
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You know its bad when Corey Bradford is your starting wide receiver.

Crap wrong thread............Crap...that was the Texans for four years.....18 wins in four years?
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They draft WR year for year and yet stil see him as #2 haha...I cant wait till we play them...
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Is Mike Williams a product of the USC hype machine ?
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