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Old 05-26-2006   #1
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Kubiak gives his summary on Carr and others....

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2607

He certainly has a different view of Carr than many on this message board. Sounds a lot like I have been saying, but we will have to wait and see.
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Man, reading the interviews with Kubiak is like a breath of fresh air. He seems to be a straight shooter who doesn't dance around things. It just seems like he is pushing this team and putting it all on the line and the players seem to be responding to it and gaining confidence again. Is it football season yet?
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I've heard the offense has really struggled so far. This confirms what I'm hearing although I guess I should expect this.
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The offense has alot of bad habits to get rid of and they've only been at if for a week. I wouldnt expect them to look very good at all this early.
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I've heard the offense has really struggled so far. This confirms what I'm hearing although I guess I should expect this.
Yes, Vinny you have to learn to crawl before you can walk. I keep saying the previous staff did so much harm its beyond belief. They are having to unlearn what they were taught before.

Another factor is the defense is going to be a lot better than before. This means that if our offense gets productive it should be a very good one. The O-line I believe is working against a very good defensive line and defense. The defense is smart and they know what is coming in many instances.

What you are saying could be a good or bad sign, Vinny. We will just have to wait and see. If our defense turns out to be really bad, then we are in a lot of trouble both ways. If our defense turns out to be very good, then we are better than we think offensively. It really is up in the air at this point in time.
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"Iíve been hard on him, but I expect a lot from him,Ē Kubiak said. ďAs I told him today, thatís the way Iím going to stay and thatís the way weíre going to work because youíre going to play well for this team. Iím going to keep pushing him, and he wants to be pushed. Heís responsive to all of that. How David Carr goes is probably how this team is going to go, so we have to get him going right.Ē

It's good to hear that the pressure will be on Carr to play well, as Kubiak echos a thought many posters have discussed-- how Carr goes is probably how the team goes. I'm still wandering how he'll respond if Carr is having a bad game--in his 4 yrs, Carr has never been pulled because of performance, just injuries. Too, Kubiak talks in this article about not saving 'anything,' doing whatever it takes to win. This point was in reference to having several return men (including Robinson) and using the best one for a particular situation, without regard to a 'regular' getting hurt. I suspect Kubiak feels he has a better chance of teaching an established 'position' player to return punts/kick offs than trying to teach a 'specialist' like Mathis to learn a skilled position. Is there something going on here?

Kubiak cut the practice short and dismissed them until Tuesday, rewarding them for their hard work. Pitts made a comment on 610 a couple weeks ago that Capers had a set amount of time for everything, including the length of practices and mettings. He says players often became frustrated because-even if they finished the work early-they were not allowed to leave until the allotted time was up.

Finally, it was interesting to read info on how the players are being taught the new playbook. I suspect fans are going to be given a 'ton' of information/insight into the 'going ons' of the team, not kept 'in the dark' like previous years!
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Coach Gary Kubiak said he has an open-door policy during summer workouts. Practices will be closed during the regular season, though.

"I told David and the whole team everybody is welcome this time of year." Kubiak said. "Family, friends, whatever. Let them come out and see what you do. Then when we get started, our practices will be closed. That's just the way we'll do things." :bananasplit:
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Kubiak gives his summary on Carr and others....

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2607

He certainly has a different view of Carr than many on this message board. Sounds a lot like I have been saying, but we will have to wait and see.
Kubiak is saying the same things the true Carr critics have been saying. "How David Carr goes is probably how this team is going to go, so we have to get him going right.Ē

Meaning he is not going right, right now. Carr has not played well, or as well as expected... considering the situation he was in, he could have played better. That's all that people like Vinny has been saying for years....

Carr's got talent.... he's got a strong arm... he's intelligent, and he's tough.... but he's been screwing the pooch for quite some time. Can he be taught to take a team to the SuperBowl?? yes...... but if you were to give Kubiak a team with Kelly Holcomb, Joey Harrington, Charlie Batch, Tim Couch, Anthony Wright, or Aaron Brooks, he'd say the same thing.... assuming that they are halfway intelligent, because none of us really know without sitting down with them one on one.
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I've posted before that I think defenses have an advantage at this time of the year just because of the nature of offense vs. defense. However, if Kubiak is judging the offense compare to where he thinks the offense should be, then I'm sure he'll get their attention and get it up to speed.
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I've heard the offense has really struggled so far. This confirms what I'm hearing although I guess I should expect this.
To be expected. As a team they are lightyears behind even average NFL teams in regards to coaching.

And you have to love the way Kubiak addresses the media. It feels like everything is being being disclosed and players are being held accountable, publicly.
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“I’ve learned that he’s a tough young man,” Kubiak said. “He’s been through a lot. He’s been on the ground a little bit through the past few years. It would be easy to say, ‘Hey, well, there’s nothing I could do there. Or that wasn’t my fault.’ He doesn’t operate that way. He takes a lot upon himself. He’s a hard worker. There’s nothing about David that you’re not looking for as a coach. He comes out here ready to go every day.”
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I think Kubiak is just stating the obvious here, so as to give the media some kind of answer they want. Any team goes the way of its QB, which is why there's a QB problem with most of the teams that are unsuccessful. We all know Carr hasn't played as well as we'd like, those who support Carr just feel that he hasn't been given the chance to succeed that he should get in this new system.
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I think Kubiak is just stating the obvious here, so as to give the media some kind of answer they want. Any team goes the way of its QB, which is why there's a QB problem with most of the teams that are unsuccessful. We all know Carr hasn't played as well as we'd like, those who support Carr just feel that he hasn't been given the chance to succeed that he should get in this new system.
And it insults everyone's intelligence, when this argument is brought up. There are times, when Carr has less than 2 seconds to get a play off... it is understandable in this situation, to take a sack.

Unless..... you are looking right at them. I don't have a problem, if he takes this sack.. could be worse... but.. you're taking that hit anyway...... throw the ball over AJs head, into the stands..... I know it isn't as easy as it sounds, but it can be done.

Teams won't sell out on the Blitz everyother down, unless there was a huge possibility of a huge reward....... negative 5 yards + a sack........ you won't be able to stop them from coming. If they are just getting knock downs, and the QB is just getting back up, ready to make the next play..... a 2nd & 10, or a 3rd & 10......

But if chances are good that you'll be looking at 2nd & 15....... then 3rd & 20... trust me, the blitz is coming.


What's even worse...... we implemented 3 step, and even 1 step drops to get the ball out of David's hands quicker..... what was the result?? he still took the sack........ When your foot hits the ground, on your 3rd step, or your fist step(depending on the situation) the ball goes..... taking the sack is no option. you throw it at the reciever..... if you're good, and can recognize that he is covered well, you throw it over his head, or at his feet.

Trust me, I don't want to bash David Carr... but if that's the best he can do, after doing the same thing for 4 years..... If there is a QB in the league, who should know how to play in a collapsing poket, it's David Carr.

Let's say you're watching a kid learning to ride a bike. It's got a training wheel on the left side. None on the right..... if that kid keeps leaning to the right side, and keeps falling........ after three years....... wouldn't you think there is some kind of problem there?? True, the bike is flawed, and not conducive to learning how to ride...... but the kid ain't all there either.

David Carr has a lot of plusses as well. But if you think he did the best he could last year, or the year before for that matter......... then I hope like hell you're wrong.
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And it insults everyone's intelligence, when this argument is brought up. There are times, when Carr has less than 2 seconds to get a play off... it is understandable in this situation, to take a sack.

Unless..... you are looking right at them. I don't have a problem, if he takes this sack.. could be worse... but.. you're taking that hit anyway...... throw the ball over AJs head, into the stands..... I know it isn't as easy as it sounds, but it can be done.

Teams won't sell out on the Blitz everyother down, unless there was a huge possibility of a huge reward....... negative 5 yards + a sack........ you won't be able to stop them from coming. If they are just getting knock downs, and the QB is just getting back up, ready to make the next play..... a 2nd & 10, or a 3rd & 10......

But if chances are good that you'll be looking at 2nd & 15....... then 3rd & 20... trust me, the blitz is coming.


What's even worse...... we implemented 3 step, and even 1 step drops to get the ball out of David's hands quicker..... what was the result?? he still took the sack........ When your foot hits the ground, on your 3rd step, or your fist step(depending on the situation) the ball goes..... taking the sack is no option. you throw it at the reciever..... if you're good, and can recognize that he is covered well, you throw it over his head, or at his feet.

Trust me, I don't want to bash David Carr... but if that's the best he can do, after doing the same thing for 4 years..... If there is a QB in the league, who should know how to play in a collapsing poket, it's David Carr.

Let's say you're watching a kid learning to ride a bike. It's got a training wheel on the left side. None on the right..... if that kid keeps leaning to the right side, and keeps falling........ after three years....... wouldn't you think there is some kind of problem there?? True, the bike is flawed, and not conducive to learning how to ride...... but the kid ain't all there either.

David Carr has a lot of plusses as well. But if you think he did the best he could last year, or the year before for that matter......... then I hope like hell you're wrong.
The problem with this arguement is its rational and what you would expect you want your QB to do. I have said for a long time I believe Capers and company wanted Carr to hold on to the ball at all possible cost to kill time on the clock. I have felt they wanted him to take the sack to run time off the clock. They did not want him to throw the ball away because it will kill the clock. If you look at that way you may understand why he was doing what he did.

It was part of the keep it close and we will get them at the last second philosophy. I believe the previous staff destroyed the offensive unit and taught them how not to play football.
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And it insults everyone's intelligence, when this argument is brought up. There are times, when Carr has less than 2 seconds to get a play off... it is understandable in this situation, to take a sack.

Unless..... you are looking right at them. I don't have a problem, if he takes this sack.. could be worse... but.. you're taking that hit anyway...... throw the ball over AJs head, into the stands..... I know it isn't as easy as it sounds, but it can be done.

Teams won't sell out on the Blitz everyother down, unless there was a huge possibility of a huge reward....... negative 5 yards + a sack........ you won't be able to stop them from coming. If they are just getting knock downs, and the QB is just getting back up, ready to make the next play..... a 2nd & 10, or a 3rd & 10......

But if chances are good that you'll be looking at 2nd & 15....... then 3rd & 20... trust me, the blitz is coming.


What's even worse...... we implemented 3 step, and even 1 step drops to get the ball out of David's hands quicker..... what was the result?? he still took the sack........ When your foot hits the ground, on your 3rd step, or your fist step(depending on the situation) the ball goes..... taking the sack is no option. you throw it at the reciever..... if you're good, and can recognize that he is covered well, you throw it over his head, or at his feet.

Trust me, I don't want to bash David Carr... but if that's the best he can do, after doing the same thing for 4 years..... If there is a QB in the league, who should know how to play in a collapsing poket, it's David Carr.

Let's say you're watching a kid learning to ride a bike. It's got a training wheel on the left side. None on the right..... if that kid keeps leaning to the right side, and keeps falling........ after three years....... wouldn't you think there is some kind of problem there?? True, the bike is flawed, and not conducive to learning how to ride...... but the kid ain't all there either.

David Carr has a lot of plusses as well. But if you think he did the best he could last year, or the year before for that matter......... then I hope like hell you're wrong.
The other point I would make against this is that our receiver core execept for AJ was basically worthless. That is evidenced by what has happened to that group this year. Basically they were all fired except for AJ and replaced with a new core. There was a reason for that and you will see it when the season starts. Carr basically had no one to throw to and the other teams knew who they had to cover. There was no guessing when you played the Texans.
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Obviously last year the WHOLE team had a problem, not just David. It was called "Bad Coaching". Kubiak is a breath of fresh air. He is a coach that demands respect and gets it because he gives it too. Everyone that has ever been on any kind of sports team knows the importance of the coach. You will go above and beyond to play your best for a coach that respects you, knows what he is doing, and is fair. Not too mention we have several in each position waiting to take over, competition is good. I love Kubiak's attitude and I see everything going in the right direction.
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I have said for a long time I believe Capers and company wanted Carr to hold on to the ball at all possible cost to kill time on the clock. I have felt they wanted him to take the sack to run time off the clock. They did not want him to throw the ball away because it will kill the clock. If you look at that way you may understand why he was doing what he did.

It was part of the keep it close and we will get them at the last second philosophy. I believe the previous staff destroyed the offensive unit and taught them how not to play football.
Good point here. Maybe it was Capers telling Carr to run out of bounds 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage and not throw the ball away. It's all starting to make sense now.

Coach Capers... I mean Bobo... can you shed some light on this for us?
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The problem with this arguement is its rational and what you would expect you want your QB to do. I have said for a long time I believe Capers and company wanted Carr to hold on to the ball at all possible cost to kill time on the clock. I have felt they wanted him to take the sack to run time off the clock. They did not want him to throw the ball away because it will kill the clock. If you look at that way you may understand why he was doing what he did.

It was part of the keep it close and we will get them at the last second philosophy. I believe the previous staff destroyed the offensive unit and taught them how not to play football.
running out of bounds with the ball in his hands.. behind the line of scrimmage.... I'll buy that, with this argument. But take a sack to run out the clock....... if David agreed to that crap, then he needs to go..... he shouldn't be allowed to watch practice, or have any football related discussions. I understand giving up your body, and taking one for the team....... but c'mon...
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The other point I would make against this is that our receiver core execept for AJ was basically worthless. That is evidenced by what has happened to that group this year. Basically they were all fired except for AJ and replaced with a new core. There was a reason for that and you will see it when the season starts. Carr basically had no one to throw to and the other teams knew who they had to cover. There was no guessing when you played the Texans.
Hence, I said over AJ's head. With a 1 step/3 step drop, there is no reading a progression. you know who you are throwing the ball to before the ball is snapped....... so it doesn't matter how good/poor our other recievers are.
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running out of bounds with the ball in his hands.. behind the line of scrimmage.... I'll buy that, with this argument. But take a sack to run out the clock....... if David agreed to that crap, then he needs to go..... he shouldn't be allowed to watch practice, or have any football related discussions. I understand giving up your body, and taking one for the team....... but c'mon...


Hence, I said over AJ's head. With a 1 step/3 step drop, there is no reading a progression. you know who you are throwing the ball to before the ball is snapped....... so it doesn't matter how good/poor our other recievers are.
David has always been a do what the coach says guy. He's very much a company man. So while you find it hard to understand, I truely believe that was the case. Again everything done last year was done to minimize the amount of time the other team had to score. We were trying to kill the clock in every imaginable way we could. Incompleted passes stop the clock and don't help you kill the clock.

Remember, Kubiak commented early on that Carr had to learn to get out of the huddle and to the line quicker. Why was that so, because in the old offense they were to leave the huddle as late as possible to kill the clock. That's why we also had a number of delay penalties. They didn't want David to read what the defense was doing. They didn't want him to change the play. Yes, the prior staff was that bad. They tied the hands of the offense.
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Coach Kubiak is a no b.s. item. Sounds like he's a fair minded fellow, but won't tolerate nonsense when the rubber meets the road.

I don't know how much outsiders can distract players, but this policy will be sure to remove any doubts about the subject.
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