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Old 05-11-2006   #1
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Default Domanick Davis or Michael Bennett

Porky in I are in an pretty interesting conversation, to say the least, on who is a better RB when healthy....love to get the boards opinion.

*accidently typed David....supposed to be Davis....my bad.
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DD. He doesnt get injured as much. He has proved himself to me. The FO thought DD was good enough to pass on Reggie Bush. I doubt that would have done that for Michael Bennet
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Sorry ment to vote for Domanick, MY BAD!!!!!
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Sorry ment to vote for Domanick, MY BAD!!!!!
lol...damn you i figured there wouldn't be one vote for bennett other than porky's and now look what you've done....lol
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Is there anyway you can fix the name??

I mean those two guys might have voted for Bennette, because they don't consider Carr a running back??
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I think they are both good backs, and I'd like to see what Bennett could do if he is 100%.
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Okay, let's make this fair. I said when completely healthy Bennett is the better back. That should be the criteria. Obviousely, health has been an issue. Secondly, it's not exactly objective asking a bunch of Texans homers. That's like asking showing a man a picture of his wife and Eva Longeria, and expecting him to say Eva is prettier when the wife is standing there. Half these people have probably never seen Bennett play. Not objective!
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Hey i said specifically i wanted to see what this board thought....not the whole NFL network....i have a lot of time but not that much. but your right....you did say when both healthy....anyone who wants to change their vote now....well....just post it down here or something i don't know.

unfortunately i can't change the name...i know i'm an idiot...lol

although it would be interesting to set up a poll that a bunch of objective fans could vote for....i guess we'll have our real answer on opening day....but i also think that most of the people on this board are pretty objective....not to mention 99% were saying two weeks ago that they basically wanted a new RB in reggie....so i don't think there is too much homerism going on around here to say the least.
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DD. if he stays healthy, his production as a starter equals more than 2000 yards total offense. bennett's a homerun guy, but has done so with an established line and getting his yards in junktime & passing downs. if you can argue for dd's production, james allan average 3.3 yards per carry & stacey mack averaged 2.7ypc ... while DD averaged 4.3 as a rookie behind the exact same line & coach. he's also held up for 230+ carries every season (and 300+ once), while bennett has only crossed 200 once. also, despite being a "homerun" guy, bennett's even weaker in the touchdown department (12 in 5 years, dd has 23 in 3) and is not as strong as a pass catching option.
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From the Pro Football Weekly archives in 2001

Drafted in the 1st round -

RB Michael Bennett
(5-9, 207, 4.4) Wisconsin
Notes: Top high school and collegiate sprinter. Won four Big Ten sprint titles last year and qualified for the Olympic trials but did not go in order to concentrate on football. Ran a 10.22 in the 100-meter dash and a 22.76 in the 200 meters at the Big Ten outdoor meet and was named the Conference Indoor Male Track Athlete of the Year. Nephew of former Packers first-round pick Tony Bennett (University of Mississippi, Packers and Colts). Was a Prop casualty in 1998. Backed up Ron Dayne in 99 and carried 57 times for 298 yards and four touchdowns and had one catch for 39 yards. Replaced Dayne in 2000 and carried 294-1,598-10 and had four catches for 23 yards despite missing two full games and parts of a few others. Had to sit out one game because of the sneaker store case, in which Wisconsin athletes received unadvertised discounts on shoes and clothing, and another due to injury. Then, on February 12, 2001, at 3:45 a.m., Bennett was arrested by the Madison, Wisc., police following an early morning dispute. Bennett allegedly kicked in the apartment door of a 19-year-old female who lived in the same apartment complex. Bennett pleaded innocent March 5. He faces charges of criminal damage to property and unlawful use of a telephone.

Positives: One of the two or three fastest football players in America over longer distances and does not lose much speed when he puts his pads on. Is not a sprinter playing football, but a legitimate and tough player with good football character. Improved by leaps and bounds in 2000 and still has a lot of upside potential. Is just learning to run with patience and how to make his cuts without slowing down. Looks small, but he is powerful for his size and runs hard. Is always a threat to go all the way and can run inside or outside. Handled questions about his incident openly and with poise at the Combine. Also seemed to catch the ball pretty well in drills.

Negatives: Is not very big. Has only really done it for one year. Still learning his trade and needs a lot of reps. Does not always show good vision or running instincts and judgment. Gets too impatient at times and does not wait for his blocking or waits too long. Needs to develop a better feel for the flow of the defense. Has very little experience catching the ball. Needs a lot of work on his blocking, especially how he picks up the blitz. Had way too many pass rushers just go right through or around him. Has some off-the-field baggage.

Summary: No underclassman running back who came out could have used an extra year in school to learn and develop more than this player. However, he has such rare speed and potential, he still figures to be a very high draft pick.
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Drafted in the 1st round -

RB Michael Bennett
(5-9, 207, 4.4) Wisconsin
Notes: Top high school and collegiate sprinter. Won four Big Ten sprint titles last year and qualified for the Olympic trials but did not go in order to concentrate on football. Ran a 10.22 in the 100-meter dash and a 22.76 in the 200 meters at the Big Ten outdoor meet and was named the Conference Indoor Male Track Athlete of the Year. Nephew of former Packers first-round pick Tony Bennett (University of Mississippi, Packers and Colts). Was a Prop casualty in 1998. Backed up Ron Dayne in 99 and carried 57 times for 298 yards and four touchdowns and had one catch for 39 yards. Replaced Dayne in 2000 and carried 294-1,598-10 and had four catches for 23 yards despite missing two full games and parts of a few others. Had to sit out one game because of the sneaker store case, in which Wisconsin athletes received unadvertised discounts on shoes and clothing, and another due to injury. Then, on February 12, 2001, at 3:45 a.m., Bennett was arrested by the Madison, Wisc., police following an early morning dispute. Bennett allegedly kicked in the apartment door of a 19-year-old female who lived in the same apartment complex. Bennett pleaded innocent March 5. He faces charges of criminal damage to property and unlawful use of a telephone.

Positives: One of the two or three fastest football players in America over longer distances and does not lose much speed when he puts his pads on. Is not a sprinter playing football, but a legitimate and tough player with good football character. Improved by leaps and bounds in 2000 and still has a lot of upside potential. Is just learning to run with patience and how to make his cuts without slowing down. Looks small, but he is powerful for his size and runs hard. Is always a threat to go all the way and can run inside or outside. Handled questions about his incident openly and with poise at the Combine. Also seemed to catch the ball pretty well in drills.

Negatives: Is not very big. Has only really done it for one year. Still learning his trade and needs a lot of reps. Does not always show good vision or running instincts and judgment. Gets too impatient at times and does not wait for his blocking or waits too long. Needs to develop a better feel for the flow of the defense. Has very little experience catching the ball. Needs a lot of work on his blocking, especially how he picks up the blitz. Had way too many pass rushers just go right through or around him. Has some off-the-field baggage.

Summary: No underclassman running back who came out could have used an extra year in school to learn and develop more than this player. However, he has such rare speed and potential, he still figures to be a very high draft pick.
hey i'm right there with you....the guy is a great athlete....especially out of college....but as far as RB skills and what i believe makes a succesful RB....well...he hasn't shown my one thing that says he is dependable...much less better than DD. home run threats are great and all....but there is a reason the NFL wasn't jumping all over him when he hit the market. come on....2 years 3 million....are you honestly going to tell me that NFL teams would be giving Davis less than that if he was a FA??
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Drafted in the 1st round -

RB Michael Bennett
(5-9, 207, 4.4) Wisconsin
Notes: Top high school and collegiate sprinter. Won four Big Ten sprint titles last year and qualified for the Olympic trials but did not go in order to concentrate on football. Ran a 10.22 in the 100-meter dash and a 22.76 in the 200 meters at the Big Ten outdoor meet and was named the Conference Indoor Male Track Athlete of the Year. Nephew of former Packers first-round pick Tony Bennett (University of Mississippi, Packers and Colts). Was a Prop casualty in 1998. Backed up Ron Dayne in 99 and carried 57 times for 298 yards and four touchdowns and had one catch for 39 yards. Replaced Dayne in 2000 and carried 294-1,598-10 and had four catches for 23 yards despite missing two full games and parts of a few others. Had to sit out one game because of the sneaker store case, in which Wisconsin athletes received unadvertised discounts on shoes and clothing, and another due to injury. Then, on February 12, 2001, at 3:45 a.m., Bennett was arrested by the Madison, Wisc., police following an early morning dispute. Bennett allegedly kicked in the apartment door of a 19-year-old female who lived in the same apartment complex. Bennett pleaded innocent March 5. He faces charges of criminal damage to property and unlawful use of a telephone.

Positives: One of the two or three fastest football players in America over longer distances and does not lose much speed when he puts his pads on. Is not a sprinter playing football, but a legitimate and tough player with good football character. Improved by leaps and bounds in 2000 and still has a lot of upside potential. Is just learning to run with patience and how to make his cuts without slowing down. Looks small, but he is powerful for his size and runs hard. Is always a threat to go all the way and can run inside or outside. Handled questions about his incident openly and with poise at the Combine. Also seemed to catch the ball pretty well in drills.

Negatives: Is not very big. Has only really done it for one year. Still learning his trade and needs a lot of reps. Does not always show good vision or running instincts and judgment. Gets too impatient at times and does not wait for his blocking or waits too long. Needs to develop a better feel for the flow of the defense. Has very little experience catching the ball. Needs a lot of work on his blocking, especially how he picks up the blitz. Had way too many pass rushers just go right through or around him. Has some off-the-field baggage.

Summary: No underclassman running back who came out could have used an extra year in school to learn and develop more than this player. However, he has such rare speed and potential, he still figures to be a very high draft pick.
Cool, he went to college up by me
#3 RB coming out of the draft. And when you look at the RBs in that draft there's a bunch of good players in there. Thanks for the good site.

Also, I have to agree with you. When healthy, Bennett is the better back but if he comes here I see him giving DD a rest, not DD giving him a rest.
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come on....2 years 3 million....are you honestly going to tell me that NFL teams would be giving Davis less than that if he was a FA??
He was offered that because of his problems of staying healthy, not because he doesn't have any talent.
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Okay, let's make this fair. I said when completely healthy Bennett is the better back. That should be the criteria. Obviousely, health has been an issue. Secondly, it's not exactly objective asking a bunch of Texans homers. That's like asking showing a man a picture of his wife and Eva Longeria, and expecting him to say Eva is prettier when the wife is standing there. Half these people have probably never seen Bennett play. Not objective!
Well, I have seen Bennett play, although he has been on more often.

At the sports bar that I go to, to watch Texans games, there are about 15 to 20 Vikings fans that watch them play on the next TV. They all liked Bennett, but almost to a man, they had mentioned to me that they would love to have DD instead.

Personally, I like Bennett, but I do like DD better. DD just seems to break more tackles and get those extra yards.
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who said he doesn't have talent?! i know he has talent....but if the guy was a better RB than DD and everyone in the league thought so....i guarantee he would have found a better offer than 2 years 3 million....its common sense....someone so great would find a biter....for instance....Al Davis would have been all over him....potential and low money....but he got paid exactly what the NFL thinks he is now....a backup RB. but anyways....if the deal gets done....we will see who starts on opening day.
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Thats quite good Porkster but the fact of the matter is, if Bennett was so good, fast and all that................what happened to him with the Vikings?! I mean seriously, if the guy was all that and a bag of chips why would they get rid of him in the first place?! Was it the injuries that plagued him or what?! IMO, I like the RB situation here in Houston as it is now, if we bring in Bennett that will only get DD down like we don't think he's that good which IMO he is a damn good RB just needs the team behind him, first of all the line just has to better than it has ever been since we drafted those dudes in the draft so thats a good step.
He got a lot of playing time at the end of the year after he passed up Mewelde Moore on the depth chart. In the last 5 games of the year (in 2 he didn't get much playing time) he had 58 carries for 273 yards and 3 TDs, that's 4.7 ypc. He also had a reception TD. That's not too bad. So that's what happened to him while he was on the Vikings.
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Well, I have seen Bennett play, although he has been on more often.

At the sports bar that I go to, to watch Texans games, there are about 15 to 20 Vikings fans that watch them play on the next TV. They all liked Bennett, but almost to a man, they had mentioned to me that they would love to have DD instead.

Personally, I like Bennett, but I do like DD better. DD just seems to break more tackles and get those extra yards.
exactly....Bennett is faster and probably a better athlete....actually i'm certain he is....but he isn't a better back....i would love for someone to pull up some numbers....but from my experience of watching him....if he gets nicked in any way at or before the line....its not going to be a run worth more than 2-3 yards ever.
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Bennett has had injury problems no question. And, because of that, it's probable he never is a true feature back again. I accept that. I still say it's a toss up on who lines up on opening day on the first drive, but whomever starts, I see these guys splitting carries IF the trade gets done. My point is which guy is more talented when healthy. That's all. Not who has been more productive, not who is more well liked, not who has the bigger contract. Not which guy has better initials, a better number, or more longevity. Just who has more talent WHEN healthy. I think on that question, the choice is clear. Bennett in 08!
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ok....who has a viking forum account....we are going to try this from all angles....anybody got a NO account....
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Bennett has had injury problems no question. And, because of that, it's probable he never is a true feature back again. I accept that. I still say it's a toss up on who lines up on opening day on the first drive, but whomever starts, I see these guys splitting carries IF the trade gets done. My point is which guy is more talented when healthy. That's all. Not who has been more productive, not who is more well liked, not who has the bigger contract. Not which guy has better initials, a better number, or more longevity. Just who has more talent WHEN healthy. I think on that question, the choice is clear. Bennett in 08!
oh come on....DD has the better initials no contest. lol. you take Bennett and i'll take Davis and hopefully the trade will go through....should be interesting.
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