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Old 09-01-2004   #21
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AJ I think right now AJ is the best based on yards after the reception. This link gives you a nice insight into AJ and what he is like along with stats on yards after the reception. AJ is becoming a feared receiver by the defense and I think Carr and AJ will contect a lot more this year, particularly with the changes in what the CB's can do while defending the receiver.
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well both have their positives and negetives, charles has the speed, runs good routes, and can make the great catch (see notre dame game), but he has trouble getting off the bump. andre is fast, physical, and is a great run blocker, but he has trouble running routes and can drop some catchable passes. i won't judge till after next year but i still think cj is moss and andre is a quiet owens.

good to see roy is back to his old self.
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So far Andre w/o a doubt. Of Course Rodgers was hurt, but that's all we have to go by. In the long run I think both will have very good careers because they have a alot of young very talented players on offense to help them along. I would take Andre though, becuase he is stronger and could probably handle the punishment better.
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andre is fast, physical, and is a great run blocker, but he has trouble running routes and can drop some catchable passes.
I know they list what university players come from forever, but their characteristics coming out of college compaired to present day do change. Scouts did question his routes coming out of college, but after last year the consensus was he was a strong route runner. He has worked on that and on his hands again this off-season as part of his work ethic to improve. On routes I wouldn't give either an edge right now--hands, let's see how the work paid off.
By the way, Rogers dropped a slightly higher % (9.6%) of passes thrown his way last season prior to going down than Andre did (8.4%).
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It IS hard to compare these two kids together. If you base it off of this year, then you will think that CR is injury prone. And AJ almost hit the 1,000 mark. But I say we wait until their sophmore campaign's. I just hope both stay healthy. They are both playmakers. But I have to go with my boy AJ on this one. Sorry Detroit.
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AJ - proven

Rogers - unproven


simple as that.
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I know they list what university players come from forever, but their characteristics coming out of college compaired to present day do change. Scouts did question his routes coming out of college, but after last year the consensus was he was a strong route runner. He has worked on that and on his hands again this off-season as part of his work ethic to improve. On routes I wouldn't give either an edge right now--hands, let's see how the work paid off.
By the way, Rogers dropped a slightly higher % (9.6%) of passes thrown his way last season prior to going down than Andre did (8.4%).
how did you find out how many passes each dropped? i could never find anywhere, where it showed dropped passes... do you have a link? because it would be mighty useful to me..
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I'd take AJ, just as I would have if I had the choice in the draft. We got the receiver that I wanted. Charles Rogers may turn out even better than AJ, but AJ has the size and speed to create some great mismatches. Also, Andre's attitude and demeanor add a couple marks in his favor as well. I hope they both have long and healthy careers.
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how did you find out how many passes each dropped? i could never find anywhere, where it showed dropped passes... do you have a link? because it would be mighty useful to me..

Look here. They also have interesting stats on QB's for how many missed receptions are due to defensive plays, dropped passes and bad throws as well as stats on how many sacks and penalties each offensive lineman gives up.
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i'm just talking about the ball that you need to catch and a few come to mind when he should have caught it and didn't, those are the balls that he has to catch. he is still sloppy in his routes but you're right he is getting better but he can still improve. if he could fix that it would make him that much better.
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Look here. They also have interesting stats on QB's for how many missed receptions are due to defensive plays, dropped passes and bad throws as well as stats on how many sacks and penalties each offensive lineman gives up.
good website, thank you ^_^
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