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DetroitLions · 08-31-2004

Not coming here to troll, but just a friendly debate, and get some insight form Andres fans.. Who do you think is better and why...?

TexanExile · 08-31-2004

Welcome to the board...short answer from me on this is that Rogers got hurt and hasn't had a chance to truly shine yet. AJ already has proven his ability over the course of a full season. We'll get a good chance to see more in week 2, eh?

Rogers has made some nice highlight-reel grabs in preseason.

Fiddy · 08-31-2004

It is hard to tell because Rogers was hurt most of last year, but I always thought that AJ would have been a better pick by the Lions then Rogers. I still feel that the Lions drafted Rogers because of the Michigan ties and I also feel that Roy Williams will be better then Rogers...

But AJ is tough. A heck of a run blocker, very aggressive, always wanting to get better, never quits on a play, and has the best combination of size and speed out of him a Rogers...

JMHO....

HoustonLionsFan · 08-31-2004

As a Lions fan that is new to Houston, I will answer you. Rogers injury last year prohibits a comparison at this time. But, IMO, it is difficult to compare them anyway. AJ is a bigger, more physical WR, while CR is a faster, downfield kind of WR. R Williams is a closer comparison to the AJ type of WR.

Jwwillis · 08-31-2004

Too early to tell. Neither has moved ahead in the pack yet. Andre' is the man for sure and will get more touches I think.

DetroitLions · 08-31-2004

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Originally Posted by TexanExile

Welcome to the board...short answer from me on this is that Rogers got hurt and hasn't had a chance to truly shine yet. AJ already has proven his ability over the course of a full season. We'll get a good chance to see more in week 2, eh?

Rogers has made some nice highlight-reel grabs in preseason.

i Agree, i am looking forward to week 2... Andre had a solid rookie season, but i havent seen alot of him... I really want to see how they both do this season..

Fiddy · 08-31-2004

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Originally Posted by HoustonLionsFan

As a Lions fan that is new to Houston, I will answer you. Rogers injury last year prohibits a comparison at this time. But, IMO, it is difficult to compare them anyway. AJ is a bigger, more physical WR, while CR is a faster, downfield kind of WR. R Williams is a closer comparison to the AJ type of WR.

Yeah, but AJ and Rogers will always be compared because Rogers was #2 and AJ #3 in their draft...

And I really dont think that there is that big of a difference in their speed. Both of them ran track and I believe both won a bunch of races. And the 40 times werent that far off.

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DetroitLions · 08-31-2004

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Originally Posted by Fiddy

Yeah, but AJ and Rogers will always be compared because Rogers was #2 and AJ #3 in their draft...

And I really dont think that there is that big of a difference in their speed. Both of them ran track and I believe both won a bunch of races. And the 40 times werent that far off.

I'll look for the 40 times.....

the only thing that makes me think Rogers is better then Andre is because Rogers had 1 less TD in about 1/3 of the games.. Andre seem to be promising though...

DetroitLions · 08-31-2004

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Originally Posted by 3rd Coast Playa

coming out of college rogers was more polished. he had supurb hands, quickness, speed and could catch in a crowd and was very much compaired to moss. but as far as all around intangibles i think thats got to be andre, i think he can do more things for the total offense, like everyone said up there^ we will see this season, i cant wait to see myself because over here in the camp' we get dallas and texans games on our both football channels on sundays at one time and not often did they even play a lions game. i wanna see if my pot'na dave out performs joey. cant wait till week 2.......

it is going to be good... There is going to be 2 sub-matchups in this game. Carr the #1 vs Harrington the #3, and Rogers the #2 vs Johnson the #3... i cant wait... I dont know if you all heard Mort, from ESPN, but he said he would take Carr over Joey, and he thinks Carr is the real deal... just something i thought u would like to know...

Fiddy · 08-31-2004

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Originally Posted by DetroitLions

the only thing that makes me think Rogers is better then Andre is because Rogers had 1 less TD in about 1/3 of the games.. Andre seem to be promising though...

I wouldnt put too much weight on TDs...

I believe it is alright to compare the first 5 games:
AJ averaged 5.6 catches for 79 yards a game with a 14.1 yards per catch average and had 2 TDs

CR averaged 4.4 catches for 48.6 yards per game with a 11 yard per catch average and had 3 TDs

**TEXANS84** · 08-31-2004

Whats going on with Roy up there? I watched about 1/3 of your game against the Browns...and I saw Roy drop at least three dead-on passes.

DetroitLions · 08-31-2004

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Originally Posted by TEXAN84

Whats going on with Roy up there? I watched about 1/3 of your game against the Browns...and I saw Roy drop at least three dead-on passes.

Well, he droped 1 very good ball, gator-armed, a highthrown ball but catchable ball, and the other one was a bad pass, and IMO wasnt very catchable... He did much better VS the Ravens though... 3 catches for 40 yards, and a bunch of YAC, and shook off Ray Lewis for his first reception...

HoustonLionsFan · 08-31-2004

Rookie Nerves?

I saw 2 dropped, and one at his knees. 1 he was double covered and almost made a spectacular 1 handed grab (but he could have got both hands on it), the other was thrown slightly behind him. Regardless, he should have had both. Last week he had 3 grabs for 40 yds against a stingy Bal D. 1 catch I saw him put his head down, plow into a safety and carry 3 defenders for an extra 5 yds. He'll have his ups and downs, but towards the end of the season he start lighting it up.

Panther5407 · 08-31-2004

Andre cause hes had more games to develope so far. I havn't had the chance to watch Charles to much cause I dont get the game or hes been hurt. I just think Andre has developed more and is becoming a very noticible reciever in the league.

Fiddy · 08-31-2004

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Originally Posted by DetroitLions

it is going to be good... There is going to be 2 sub-matchups in this game. Carr the #1 vs Harrington the #3, and Rogers the #2 vs Johnson the #3... i cant wait...

Dont forget D-Rob (#10) against Roy Williams (#7)

It is going to be a great game....

DetroitLions · 08-31-2004

You Houston fans are classy... easy to talk to.. unlike the garbage packer and bears fans... you might as well be talking to a cage full fo monkeys... thanks for the insight, GL to the Texans, and may the best team win on week 2...

P.S. I really think the Texans have the top 3 best looking jerseys in the league..

DetroitLions · 08-31-2004

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Originally Posted by Fiddy

Dont forget D-Rob (#10) against Roy Williams (#7)

It is going to be a great game....

Speaking of D-rob, is he the #2, nickel back, or the dime back? Roy is the #2 WR, so i hope Dunta is the #2... alot of good matchups in this game..

RTP2110 · 08-31-2004

Robinson plays RCB in the standard 3-4. He shifts inside to NB in nickel packages.

DetroitLions · 08-31-2004

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Originally Posted by RTP2110

Robinson plays RCB in the standard 3-4. He shifts inside to NB in nickel packages.

so i expect he will be lined up with Roy at least a few times then...

09-01-2004

I'd have to say that Rogers will probably get more TD's this year if he stays healthy. The Lions seem to air it out more West Coast style than our ball controlling offense. Harrington threw almost double the amount of TD's (in addition to more INT's) so it's natural that the recievers are going to have better stats. But can you guage a WR on yards and TD's alone? No, but that is what he is payed to do, produce. Rogers in my opinion will have the better year stat wise because he is in an offense that can make him look good. (see T. Owens, J. Rice)

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Panther5407 All Pro Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 24 Posts: 816 Rep Power: 10	Andre cause hes had more games to develope so far. I havn't had the chance to watch Charles to much cause I dont get the game or hes been hurt. I just think Andre has developed more and is becoming a very noticible reciever in the league. __________________ Texan By Birth, Aggie by the Grace of God

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08-31-2004	#1
DetroitLions Rookie Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 27 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	Charles Rogers vs Andre Johnson Not coming here to troll, but just a friendly debate, and get some insight form Andres fans.. Who do you think is better and why...?

08-31-2004	#2
TexanExile Too Far Away Join Date: May 2004 Location: Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 1,568 Rep Power: 1757	Welcome to the board...short answer from me on this is that Rogers got hurt and hasn't had a chance to truly shine yet. AJ already has proven his ability over the course of a full season. We'll get a good chance to see more in week 2, eh? Rogers has made some nice highlight-reel grabs in preseason.

08-31-2004	#3
Fiddy Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Age: 25 Posts: 4,314 Rep Power: 17	It is hard to tell because Rogers was hurt most of last year, but I always thought that AJ would have been a better pick by the Lions then Rogers. I still feel that the Lions drafted Rogers because of the Michigan ties and I also feel that Roy Williams will be better then Rogers... But AJ is tough. A heck of a run blocker, very aggressive, always wanting to get better, never quits on a play, and has the best combination of size and speed out of him a Rogers... JMHO.... __________________ 'Anyone ready to go outside so I can make you look bad?' - Matt Schaub talking to the DBs

08-31-2004	#4
HoustonLionsFan Veteran Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: H-town Posts: 142 Rep Power: 9	As a Lions fan that is new to Houston, I will answer you. Rogers injury last year prohibits a comparison at this time. But, IMO, it is difficult to compare them anyway. AJ is a bigger, more physical WR, while CR is a faster, downfield kind of WR. R Williams is a closer comparison to the AJ type of WR.

08-31-2004	#5
Jwwillis All Pro Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 50 Posts: 610 Rep Power: 9	Too early to tell. Neither has moved ahead in the pack yet. Andre' is the man for sure and will get more touches I think.

08-31-2004	#11
TEXANS84 Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Woodlands, TX Age: 35 Posts: 7,450 Rep Power: 3116	Whats going on with Roy up there? I watched about 1/3 of your game against the Browns...and I saw Roy drop at least three dead-on passes.

08-31-2004	#18
RTP2110 Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Shore Age: 33 Posts: 2,782 Rep Power: 1845	Robinson plays RCB in the standard 3-4. He shifts inside to NB in nickel packages.

09-01-2004	#20
SESupergenius Guest Posts: n/a	I'd have to say that Rogers will probably get more TD's this year if he stays healthy. The Lions seem to air it out more West Coast style than our ball controlling offense. Harrington threw almost double the amount of TD's (in addition to more INT's) so it's natural that the recievers are going to have better stats. But can you guage a WR on yards and TD's alone? No, but that is what he is payed to do, produce. Rogers in my opinion will have the better year stat wise because he is in an offense that can make him look good. (see T. Owens, J. Rice)

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