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Old 05-21-2004   #41
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During all four college seasons, Jason Babin lined up at defensive end, so the former Western Michigan star and Houston Texans first-round draft choice can be forgiven the confusion and awkwardness that accompanied his recent NFL baptism at mini-camp.

Having played his entire career in a three-point stance, with his hand on the ground and his perspective on the quarterback gleaned by glancing up at a slightly cocked angle, Babin now attacks the pocket from an upright position. He is, of course, an outside linebacker now in the 3-4 alignment long preferred by Houston coach Dom Caper and defensive coordinator Vic Fangio, the latest hybrid-type player to make a position switch that he likened to learning to walk again.

Ironically, the native of Paw Paw, Mich., won't be getting his two paws nearly as dirty anymore, because he'll spend most of his time in a two-point stance now.

"I mean, in a lot of ways, it's like being a baby again," acknowledged Babin following his first exposure to his new left outside linebacker spot. "You know, you crawl first, and then you get up on your two feet. Well, I guess I'm going through the evolution process again, huh? No more hand on the ground. No more playing 'down.' It really is a totally new perspective and it's going to take a while to get accustomed to it."

The thing is, Babin is young and pliable and not as rigid in his ways, and he'll grow into his new position. Around the league, though, veteran defenders are being asked to break old habits and learn new maneuvers as more coordinators plan to either overhaul entirely to the 3-4 front or to at least incorporate it into their repertoires.
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and since you mention Bobby Hebert (originally of the Michigan Panthers) also the Philadelphia Stars?
Actually Hebert started with the Michigan Panthers and won the title in 1983 against the Philadelphia Stars. The Michigan Panthers and Oakland Invaders merged and became known as merely the Oakland Invaders in 1985. Hebert took Oakland to the USFL Championship game in 1985 where they lost to the Stars, who had moved to Baltimore. He never played for the Stars. He just went against them for the championship twice.
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Actually Hebert started with the Michigan Panthers and won the title in 1983 against the Philadelphia Stars. The Michigan Panthers and Oakland Invaders merged and became known as merely the Oakland Invaders in 1985. Hebert took Oakland to the USFL Championship game in 1985 where they lost to the Stars, who had moved to Baltimore. He never played for the Stars. He just went against them for the championship twice.
Thank you for your clarification. Actually, I was a Michigan Panthers season ticket holder (and proud owner of an offical Anthony Carter jersey). I was aware that Hebert wasn't with the Stars. What I was trying to say was because Bobby Hebert was mentioned in a previous post, we could also go back and look at the experience of our coaches with the Stars. I see now that I said it poorly.
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What are you talking about? I picked up a copy of Vogue and didn't find any football in it!
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sorry didn't read through EVERY thread.

I'm sure you bought Vogue for the makeup ads anyways.
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