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Old 05-09-2004   #21
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It's easy SheTex. Sam is Strong, Will is Weak. In a standard 4-3 Mike is usually in the Middle, but we don't like Mike, so instead we invited Mack and Buck to play inside.

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Do who guys think Babin can put up double digit sacks his rookie season? Because I can see him putting up around 10.
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Well Fiddy! With Will being weak, and with Mike in the doghouse, Mack and Buck wanna play inside, old Sam (Babin) better be STRONG or he'll get the **** beat out of him by some big meatball!!

Sorry guys, it's Mother's DaY!! Indulge me just a little! I'm still smilin about the Sam, Will, Mac, and Buc thing! Gotta be a guy thing!! :~
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At LOLB he wont have that many sacks
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Tell that to Kevin Greene, Geka.

I cannot remember who was on the left side in the old Saints famous 3-4 D. Was Swilling on the right or left?
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I think Pat Swilling was on the right but Rickey Jackson was no dog on the other side either. Vaughn Johnson and Sam Mills were excellent in the middle also. The Saints had some talent in their linebackers back then.
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All im saying is that this year he would have had more sacks if he lined up on the right side.
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I think Renaldo Turnbull was in the mix for the Saints too. He had great potential.

If I might chime in here about the LOLB spot. Starting Babin at the LOLB is going to be a huge transition for him. Think he won't get picked on? We've got 3 very good veterans in Sharper, Glenn and Walker encircling him on that side of the defense. I think that is a fantastic move. One of our biggest weaknesses as been on the right side of the defense. Now we put Wong over there and along with Coleman we add some stability and veteran leadership to bring along Robinson, another rookie. I guess Clemons is as good as gone, unless he accepts a backup role. It's still very much in the air however, this is only rookie minicamp. There plenty of room for this to change.
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That is right Vinny. It was Rickey Jackson on the other side. I remembered Mills and Johnson on the inside. That might be the best set of 3-4 LB's ever assembled (well other than perhaps a pro bowl).
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That is right Vinny. It was Rickey Jackson on the other side. I remembered Mills and Johnson on the inside. That might be the best set of 3-4 LB's ever assembled (well other than perhaps a pro bowl).
I recall that Greene, Mills and Latham (Sp?) all made the pro bowl one year for the Panthers. I can't recall if the Saints did that well. Let me know. Thanks
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The Saints in the late '80's had Rickey Jackson, Vauhgn Johnson, Sam Mills, and Pat Swilling. Those guys were dominant for about 4-5 years. They had scrubs on offense or they might have won more games. I think Bobby Hebert was their QB at the time. They won about 9-10 games a year based strictly upon that defense. I'll have to look up the Pro Bowls.
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Here is an article about those Saints. They gave up the fewest points in the league in '91 and '92. You have to realize that the Sam Mills you on the Panthers was past his prime. His best years were with the Saints.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...nfl&id=1772180

I had forgotten about Rueben Mayes (the team's HB). I guess the offense wasn't totally devoid of talent.
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Let's see ... other than Sam Mills, what was a common denominator between the Saints and the Panthers ... Maybe you could also include the Steelers ... and since you mention Bobby Hebert (originally of the Michigan Panthers) also the Philadelphia Stars?
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Capers!

Dom coached with Jim Mora on the USFL champ Stars, moved to the Saints, and then later the Panthers. He also coached the Steeler LB's.

Class dismissed.
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Dom coached with Jim Mora on the USFL champ Stars, moved to the Saints, and then later the Panthers. He also coached the Steeler LB's.

Class dismissed.
Did any of the other Texan coaches also coach with the Stars?

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ah-ha!

Just looked it up. Joe Marciano was also in this group. I probably read that somewhere before and forgot.
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ah-ha!

Just looked it up. Joe Marciano was also in this group. I probably read that somewhere before and forgot.
I haven't looked it up, but I was thinking of one more ...

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Without looking....was it Pendry? It has to be him or Olivadotti...

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Without looking....was it Pendry? It has to be him or Olivadotti...
I believe it was Pendry.
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