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El Tejano · 05-02-2006

when I say that this years draft is probably the one we should've had last year?

I mean, I think we addressed all the needs that were hurting us at the end of our 7-9 season. The primarily being help on both sides of the line of scrimmage and a few skilled positions.

thunderkyss · 05-02-2006

Did we even draft Oline last year??

**edo783** · 05-02-2006

It's the draft we should have had 3-4 years ago.

**jerek** · 05-02-2006

Yes, but our 2-14 season got Capers and Co. fired and gave us Kubiak. Not the way I would have liked it all to go down, but I'll take it for what it's going to be worth this season.

trane · 05-02-2006

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Originally Posted by El Tejano

when I say that this years draft is probably the one we should've had last year?

I mean, I think we addressed all the needs that were hurting us at the end of our 7-9 season. The primarily being help on both sides of the line of scrimmage and a few skilled positions.

What was hurting us most was the drafting of guys like Babin and Joppru over the years.

**Hardcore Texan** · 05-02-2006

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Did we even draft Oline last year??

I know we got the center Drew Hogden (spelling) but I can't remember another off of the top of my head.

TexanAddict · 05-02-2006

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Originally Posted by trane

What was hurting us most was the drafting of guys like Babin and Joppru over the years.

I like Babin but think he was a reach (especially for what we gave up to get him), no one could have predicted that the Joppru pick would go so freakishly, and unfortunately bad, and don't forget drafting P-Buch in both the 2nd and 3rd rounds last year.

TheOgre · 05-02-2006

Keep in mind this was considered by far the deepest draft in years. If we were going to have the worst record in the league, isn't this the year to do it?

El Tejano · 05-03-2006

Yeah it was deep. There were plenty of first round material way deep in the third.

thunderkyss · 05-03-2006

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Originally Posted by TexanAddict

I like Babin but think he was a reach (especially for what we gave up to get him), no one could have predicted that the Joppru pick would go so freakishly, and unfortunately bad, and don't forget drafting P-Buch in both the 2nd and 3rd rounds last year.

I swear PBuch is not going to have a good year in '06, because the opponents will have learned by week 5 not to throw it that way.

let Demeco Ryans take care of the runningbacks, and let Buchanon do what he do.

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Originally Posted by TheOgre

Keep in mind this was considered by far the deepest draft in years. If we were going to have the worst record in the league, isn't this the year to do it?

& look at how many teams still screwed it up.... good thing Capers & co did take a hike, or we'd be on that list too.

Bearfan Blue and Orange · 05-03-2006

I think this is the best draft since your establishment of the team. You got immediate impact players on both sides of the ball and two of them game changers in OT and DE

I see a good year. I think you will be 8-8 at least and possibly 9-7 but may not make the playoffs. I just remember last year AFC teams won many games and still looked in from the outside.

Meloy · 05-03-2006

Can't change history, but management seems to be correcting weaknesses quickly. Look away from Bush & just evaluate the draft and free agency & coaching changes & I think we have hope. Another good draft in 2007 for depth (hopefully) & we should have a very solid foundation.

05-03-2006

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

& look at how many teams still screwed it up.... good thing Capers & co did take a hike, or we'd be on that list too.

What team do you think "screwed it up" ? And what team do you think had the best draft

TexansLucky13 · 05-03-2006

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Originally Posted by Bearfan Blue and Orange

I think this is the best draft since your establishment of the team. You got immediate impact players on both sides of the ball and two of them game changers in OT and DE

I see a good year. I think you will be 8-8 at least and possibly 9-7 but may not make the playoffs. I just remember last year AFC teams won many games and still looked in from the outside.

Hmm. Have you seen our schedule next year? We have a very strong schedule considering the fact that we just came off of a 2-14 season. I don't know how it managed to get so tough, but oh well. Besides.... the AFC is very strong, especially the three teams in our division, namely the Jaguars and Colts for next season. We have a lot of work before you can say that we will go on a 9-7 streak.

Don't get me wrong... I would give anything for us to have a winning season. But I don't think that just because we made so many positive changes that we can just waltz into the '07 season and come off with wins.

I hope I'm wrong, though.

LORK 88 · 05-03-2006

Probably THE best draft in our 5 year history. Granted, nobody has produced or stepped on the field yet, but there are little if no doubts in my mind that we had a solid draft from top to bottom. We went both BPA and Need at the same time which is how you have the best drafts. Daniels is possibly the only reach, but he was picked in the 4th were we have amazing sucess. Here's to never seeing the #1 pick ever again!!

thunderkyss · 05-03-2006

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Originally Posted by xtruroyaltyx

What team do you think "screwed it up" ? And what team do you think had the best draft

Off the top of my head, I'm thinking N.O., and Tennessee........ I don't have a problem with their 1st round selection, with the hype around those two, even if they screw up, they drafted who they were "supposed" to, so it wouldn't be a big deal if they do flop. But neither(IIRC) addressed any real needs...... Of course, I don't know what their offseasons were like, so I may be wrong, on assessing their needs.

Dallas...... that's another one...... after Bobby Carpenter, I'm thinking WTF??? Their OLine looked as bad as ours at the end of 2005. One injury, to any of their projected starters, and they are right back to where they were. I thought surely Bill would get them some depth, but he doesn't......... He's got another tightend... and I can't remember what else..... Coleman is their answer at FS........

Bullpen Drew · 05-03-2006

Well last year was a different story with Doom Capers...

Now we are going to use the 4-3 so we needed people to cover that....

We got O-line help with Flanagan and that guy who was with Denver(help me out with his name)...our needs change every year...

05-03-2006

I think bobby carpenter was a good addition to the boys...it may not have been what they "needed" but it will make them stronger on D...I like what the patriots did...lose vinatieri and get the number 1 place kicker...i think that could work for them...I think detroit could have done better...but everybody else looked pretty good...how could u not do good in a draft so deep

slamdunc · 05-03-2006

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Originally Posted by xtruroyaltyx

What team do you think "screwed it up" ? And what team do you think had the best draft

The Bills draft was pretty bad...trading up for McCargo?

slamdunc · 05-03-2006

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Off the top of my head, I'm thinking N.O., and Tennessee........ I don't have a problem with their 1st round selection, with the hype around those two, even if they screw up, they drafted who they were "supposed" to, so it wouldn't be a big deal if they do flop. But neither(IIRC) addressed any real needs...... Of course, I don't know what their offseasons were like, so I may be wrong, on assessing their needs.

Dallas...... that's another one...... after Bobby Carpenter, I'm thinking WTF??? Their OLine looked as bad as ours at the end of 2005. One injury, to any of their projected starters, and they are right back to where they were. I thought surely Bill would get them some depth, but he doesn't......... He's got another tightend... and I can't remember what else..... Coleman is their answer at FS........

Thunder-

Tennessee's was not that bad in my opinion. LenDale was pretty good pick in 2nd, a) he was first round talent and b) neither Chris Brown or Travis Henry can stay healthy. Mahelona in the 5th was pretty solid also.

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thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 25,704 Rep Power: 51478	Did we even draft Oline last year?? __________________ I swear it's for real this time!

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edo783 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, again. Posts: 7,700 Rep Power: 4640	It's the draft we should have had 3-4 years ago. __________________ De Oppresso Liber

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jerek Pro Hobbyist Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dublin, OH Age: 32 Posts: 6,590 Rep Power: 7621	Yes, but our 2-14 season got Capers and Co. fired and gave us Kubiak. Not the way I would have liked it all to go down, but I'll take it for what it's going to be worth this season. __________________ It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. - Voltaire

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TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	Keep in mind this was considered by far the deepest draft in years. If we were going to have the worst record in the league, isn't this the year to do it? __________________ "...the Texans select...Adrian Peterson, RB, University of Oklahoma."

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LORK 88 Wreck'em Ŧech! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Tech Age: 26 Posts: 1,205 Rep Power: 201	Probably THE best draft in our 5 year history. Granted, nobody has produced or stepped on the field yet, but there are little if no doubts in my mind that we had a solid draft from top to bottom. We went both BPA and Need at the same time which is how you have the best drafts. Daniels is possibly the only reach, but he was picked in the 4th were we have amazing sucess. Here's to never seeing the #1 pick ever again!! __________________

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El Tejano Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,748 Rep Power: 6842	Does anyone agree... when I say that this years draft is probably the one we should've had last year? I mean, I think we addressed all the needs that were hurting us at the end of our 7-9 season. The primarily being help on both sides of the line of scrimmage and a few skilled positions.

05-03-2006	#11
Bearfan Blue and Orange Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 42 Posts: 389 Rep Power: 8	I think this is the best draft since your establishment of the team. You got immediate impact players on both sides of the ball and two of them game changers in OT and DE I see a good year. I think you will be 8-8 at least and possibly 9-7 but may not make the playoffs. I just remember last year AFC teams won many games and still looked in from the outside.

05-03-2006	#12
Meloy Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,834 Rep Power: 12	Can't change history, but management seems to be correcting weaknesses quickly. Look away from Bush & just evaluate the draft and free agency & coaching changes & I think we have hope. Another good draft in 2007 for depth (hopefully) & we should have a very solid foundation.

05-03-2006	#17
Bullpen Drew All Pro Join Date: May 2005 Location: Austin Age: 41 Posts: 737 Rep Power: 8	Well last year was a different story with Doom Capers... Now we are going to use the 4-3 so we needed people to cover that.... We got O-line help with Flanagan and that guy who was with Denver(help me out with his name)...our needs change every year... __________________ Our time is coming..... BTW, Try the Bullpen Drew BBQ joint! Our motto... "Nobody beats my meat!"

05-03-2006	#18
real Guest Posts: n/a	I think bobby carpenter was a good addition to the boys...it may not have been what they "needed" but it will make them stronger on D...I like what the patriots did...lose vinatieri and get the number 1 place kicker...i think that could work for them...I think detroit could have done better...but everybody else looked pretty good...how could u not do good in a draft so deep

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