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Old 04-25-2006   #1
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Who would you take with them...I'll give us...#1 and #7.

Who would you guys take with the #1 pick...or would you trade it...
Also, what would you guys do with #7, keep it and pick someone, or trade it for more picks?

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Me? I'd say....Bush...and try and trade up for D'Brick...

This should be fun...haha.
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Bush/Huff

Bush/J Williams

Also wouldn't mind taking AJ Hawk at 7 if he dropped, and Vernon Davis would be a possibility too. I really like the guys in the 5-10 range.
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Who would you take with them...I'll give us...#1 and #7.

Who would you guys take with the #1 pick...or would you trade it...
Also, what would you guys do with #7, keep it and pick someone, or trade it for more picks?

Thoughts?

Me? I'd say....Bush...and try and trade up for D'Brick...

This should be fun...haha.
You think it sounds funny, but we could trade Carr to the Raiders (#7), draft Vince, and then trade the number 7 pick and the second round pick to the Saints and get Reggie Bush as well. Or stay at # 7 and get Mario Williams, D'Brick, or AJ Hawk depending on who is still available.

Lets do it!
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You think it sounds funny, but we could trade Carr to the Raiders (#7), draft Vince, and then trade the number 7 pick and the second round pick to the Saints and get Reggie Bush as well. Or stay at # 7 and get Mario Williams, D'Brick, or AJ Hawk depending on who is still available.

Lets do it!
And for those of you who think Vince is not more talented than Carr, review both of their college stats below. To Carr's credit, the majority of his passing yards were gained during his junior and senior years. To Vince's credit, he did not have a senior year.


DC (4 yrs) 7,849 passing yds, 70 TDs, 23 INTs, 62.6%, 141.4 pass efficiency
VY (3 yrs) 6,040 passing yds 44 28 61.8 144.9



Rushing Yds TD

David Carr (4 yrs) 206 9
Vince Young (3 yrs) 3,127 37



Total Yds Total TDs

David Carr (4 yrs) 8,055 79
Vince Young (3 yrs) 9,167 81


Remember Vince did not play his senior year, so "projecting" that if he stayed in school for his senior year, and had at least a year as good as last years, his stats would be off the charts as shown below.

Total Yds TDs

Vince Young 13,167 121


Not only is Vince better than Carr, but he could be groomed into one of the best ever!

Don't mess this up Houston, or we will have a problem for many years.

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And for those of you who think Vince is not more talented than Carr, review both of their college stats below. To Carr's credit, the majority of his passing yards were gained during his junior and senior years. To Vince's credit, he did not have a senior year.

Passing Yds TD INT PCT Efficiency

DC (4 yrs) 7,849 70 23 62.6 141.4
VY (3 yrs) 6,040 44 28 61.8 144.9



Rushing Yds TD

David Carr (4 yrs) 206 9
Vince Young (3 yrs) 3,127 37



Total Yds Total TDs

David Carr (4 yrs) 8,055 79
Vince Young (3 yrs) 9,167 81


Remember Vince did not play his senior year, so "projecting" that if he stayed in school for his senior year, and had at least a year as good as last years, his stats would be off the charts as shown below.

Total Yds TDs

Vince Young 13,167 121


Not only is Vince better than Carr, but he could be groomed into one of the best ever!

Don't mess this up Houston, or we will have a problem for many years.
By your standards we should have drafted Eric Crouch. How did we mess that one up.
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Remember Vince did not play his senior year, so "projecting" that if he stayed in school for his senior year, and had at least a year as good as last years, his stats would be off the charts as shown below.

Total Yds TDs

Vince Young 13,167 121


Not only is Vince better than Carr, but he could be groomed into one of the best ever!

Don't mess this up Houston, or we will have a problem for many years.
looks like Brad Smith numbers we better get him to.

Brad Smith 4 years Total yards 13,088 TD's 101

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You think it sounds funny, but we could trade Carr to the Raiders (#7), draft Vince, and then trade the number 7 pick and the second round pick to the Saints and get Reggie Bush as well. Or stay at # 7 and get Mario Williams, D'Brick, or AJ Hawk depending on who is still available.

Lets do it!
1. Raiders would never go for it. Most NFL people couldn't care less that someone's a "local boy", apart from possible ticket sales impact.

2. If you think Carr is so worthless that the Texans need a QB, why do you think the Raiders would give up a Top 10 pick for him?

3. Who would be our starting QB for the years it would take before Vince could start? Ragone? Maybe we could get Harrington out of Detroit.

4. And how do we pay the number 1 and number 2 overall picks with our 4.7 million of cap room (less after Carr is traded, in fact, it's probably negative)
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3. Who would be our starting QB for the years it would take before Vince could start? Ragone? Maybe we could get Harrington out of Detroit.

4. And how do we pay the number 1 and number 2 overall picks with our 4.7 million of cap room (less after Carr is traded, in fact, it's probably negative)
Steve McNair is in deep contract disputes and may be a free agent soon. If this could happen, McNair may possibly sign a lower contract in order to help groom Vince in Houston. Not to mention that he could stick it to Bud Adams twice a year. The transition could work people, trading Carr would also get us extra draft picks.

Having the #1 and #2 pick in the draft is a stretch and it would never happen, but stranger things have occured.
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If i get 2 out of the top 10, i want vince and mario williams, with dbrick, then huff, then hawk rounding out my personal top 5
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I'd go with Vince, then trade the #7 and try to get Kiwanuka & Eric Winston.
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looks like Brad Smith numbers we better get him to.

Brad Smith 4 years Total yards 13,088 TD's 101

Find someone comparable to Vince before you start throwing out numbers. Many people have the stats, but not many have Vince's pure, overall talent, period.

Reggie is great and Carr may be as well, but neither could lead this team like Vince could.

Until Kubs was hired, many rumblings out of the locker room were stating Carr is not giving 100% to football. Not necessarily on the field, but in the offseason working with his receivers and linemen. Everyone has family to share time with, but professional football is a year round sport. The team should be an extension to the family, ask anyone who has played on an NFL dynasty.

How many sacks will it take before Carr reverts back to his old ways? Kubiak will be a great coach and will put his stamp on the organization no matter what. So the real question is, will Kubs change the face of the Texans, with a real Texan?
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Trade down from the first pick to the fourth pick, then pick Hawk at 4 and Huff at 7...
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Reggie Bush, Vernon Davis. I think with those two on the field, we would have the most talented skill positions on offense in the NFL hands down. Vernon Davis is a total beast! That would be insane!

But Davis won't last til pick 7, so I wouldn't mind trading up to get him or get Winston Justice.
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You think it sounds funny, but we could trade Carr to the Raiders (#7), draft Vince, and then trade the number 7 pick and the second round pick to the Saints and get Reggie Bush as well. Or stay at # 7 and get Mario Williams, D'Brick, or AJ Hawk depending on who is still available.

Lets do it!
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Reggie Bush, Vernon Davis. I think with those two on the field, we would have the most talented skill positions on offense in the NFL hands down. Vernon Davis is a total beast! That would be insane!

But Davis won't last til pick 7, so I wouldn't mind trading up to get him or get Winston Justice.
That would help out our offense pretty nicely, but I'd prefer to boost the defense and take Mario Williams and Michael Huff (take Hawk instead if he somehow falls to #7). Another option, depending on what other picks we have, would be to trade up and get Mario and Bush, take the best playmaker and best prospect in several years on both sides of the ball. Either way having those two high picks would bankrupt our team, but interesting to make plans for Madden next year.
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Why is it so difficult for some of you to understand Texans aren't drafting Vince Young? It isn't happening. It will be Bush or Mario.
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