Vince Young should be a Texan, Bush will be a bust

Honestly what happened? Out of the blue some people only have him going to the Cardinals at pick 10. Did I miss something? Maybe he got a bad score on the Wonderlic test, nobody really knows, but that test means little compared to what you do on the field. That is the same test where Ryan Leaf scored 11 points more than Dan Marino, and those scores obviously did not reflect onto the field.

It is probably true that Vince Young will not be able to run the way he did at Texas in the pros, but then by what stretch of the imagination is Reggie Bush somehow unaffected by the 6'4" 260 linebackers that are hardly a step behind him? If anything Young would be a more successful runner than Bush, because with Bush always slashing around, and an NFL defense that is much quicker to react than a college defense, he is sure to be hit unexpectedly, and this being something he's never dealt with, he's an injury liability and he would have a high possibility of developing fumblitis.

And suddenly Vince Young is only a running quarterback? I do believe he had a higher passer rating than Matt Leinart, and almost every other high name quarterback that competed in a full season and had somewhere around a 65% completion rating. He is blessed with mobility, which he uses to make his throwing situations more comfortable. He can escape the pocket if need be and after that he can make a 60 yard throw on a line with a flick of the wrist. Plus he's a smart kid when it comes to football and he knows he's not going to be running as much in the NFL.

Not to mention he can be a team leader right out of the gates if he needs to, but the ideal situation would be for him to learn the system for a year and polish his technique. But the Rose Bowl was a clear indicator of his poise. It seems like people just have thrown that game out the window, discredited it completely.

Why are people zoning in on Vince’s awkward throwing motion? I believe it was Machiavelli that said the end justifies the means, and who really cares how he does it as long as he puts the ball where it needs to be 65% of the time. Plus his arm motion works in perfectly with his playing style, so when he’s on the run he can sling it out there without having to set his feet and stop, and so far he has had much success with this. You don’t change a good thing, and his arm has never hurt him before. Also his arm, along with his legs, led a team that had considerably less talent than USC to a National Championship. Seems more like people are just looking for an excuse to knock Vince down because they couldn’t do it on the field.

And what room is there for Reggie Bush in Houston anyways? What happened to Domanick Davis, a very talented runner that, with a team that had any sort of an O-line, could be even more effective. Plus he's only been pro for 4 years or so. Oh, well they could put Reggie Bush at flanker. Uhhh, they have Andre Johnson, a pro-bowl type Wide Receiver when he's got a passing game to be part of, also they just signed Eric Moulds and still have the capable Jabar Gaffney, so I think they have plenty of receivers. Well, Bush could be a great kick returner. They actually have one of those too, by the name of Jerome Mathis, who for lack of a better word, is greased lightning.

Well you're probably thinking that maybe Bush could split carries with Davis. That could work out, but would you waste the first overall pick of a loaded draft on a 10 play-a-game player? Or would you invest it in a player who could single-handedly rejuvenate the franchise and would play more than 10 plays a game in time?

Now I know they just signed Carr to a three-year deal, but keeping him is like writing your suicide note. O-line help isn't going to magically appear in one year so in the meantime you need a Quarterback who can operate somewhat effectively without an O-line. IMO Houston would be passing up a great opportunity if they draft Reggie Bush, which I fear they will. And it would be a great injustice for Young not to get to represent his hometown because there is an unexplained love affair with Reggie Bush's highlight reel. Not to mention the people of Houston would rather see Vince Young in the endzone than Reggie Bush fall short of it.

After the Rose Bowl, people were putting Vince Young down as a lock to be the first overall pick. However only a few months after the game, people have come up with numerous and seemingly unsubstantial reasons why Vince Young couldn’t cut it in the pros.

There's a great article by Michael Silver of Sports Illustrated on this subject that inspired me to write this much.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ung/index.html

[MasterC25]

Originally Posted by pelo19

Honestly what happened? Out of the blue some people only have him going to the Cardinals at pick 10. Did I miss something? Maybe he got a bad score on the Wonderlic test, nobody really knows, but that test means little compared to what you do on the field. That is the same test where Ryan Leaf scored 11 points more than Dan Marino, and those scores obviously did not reflect onto the field.

It is probably true that Vince Young will not be able to run the way he did at Texas in the pros, but then by what stretch of the imagination is Reggie Bush somehow unaffected by the 6'4" 260 linebackers that are hardly a step behind him? If anything Young would be a more successful runner than Bush, because with Bush always slashing around, and an NFL defense that is much quicker to react than a college defense, he is sure to be hit unexpectedly, and this being something he's never dealt with, he's an injury liability and he would have a high possibility of developing fumblitis.

And suddenly Vince Young is only a running quarterback? I do believe he had a higher passer rating than Matt Leinart, and almost every other high name quarterback that competed in a full season and had somewhere around a 65% completion rating. He is blessed with mobility, which he uses to make his throwing situations more comfortable. He can escape the pocket if need be and after that he can make a 60 yard throw on a line with a flick of the wrist. Plus he's a smart kid when it comes to football and he knows he's not going to be running as much in the NFL.

Not to mention he can be a team leader right out of the gates if he needs to, but the ideal situation would be for him to learn the system for a year and polish his technique. But the Rose Bowl was a clear indicator of his poise. It seems like people just have thrown that game out the window, discredited it completely.

Why are people zoning in on Vince’s awkward throwing motion? I believe it was Machiavelli that said the end justifies the means, and who really cares how he does it as long as he puts the ball where it needs to be 65% of the time. Plus his arm motion works in perfectly with his playing style, so when he’s on the run he can sling it out there without having to set his feet and stop, and so far he has had much success with this. You don’t change a good thing, and his arm has never hurt him before. Also his arm, along with his legs, led a team that had considerably less talent than USC to a National Championship. Seems more like people are just looking for an excuse to knock Vince down because they couldn’t do it on the field.

And what room is there for Reggie Bush in Houston anyways? What happened to Domanick Davis, a very talented runner that, with a team that had any sort of an O-line, could be even more effective. Plus he's only been pro for 4 years or so. Oh, well they could put Reggie Bush at flanker. Uhhh, they have Andre Johnson, a pro-bowl type Wide Receiver when he's got a passing game to be part of, also they just signed Eric Moulds and still have the capable Jabar Gaffney, so I think they have plenty of receivers. Well, Bush could be a great kick returner. They actually have one of those too, by the name of Jerome Mathis, who for lack of a better word, is greased lightning.

Well you're probably thinking that maybe Bush could split carries with Davis. That could work out, but would you waste the first overall pick of a loaded draft on a 10 play-a-game player? Or would you invest it in a player who could single-handedly rejuvenate the franchise and would play more than 10 plays a game in time?

Now I know they just signed Carr to a three-year deal, but keeping him is like writing your suicide note. O-line help isn't going to magically appear in one year so in the meantime you need a Quarterback who can operate somewhat effectively without an O-line. IMO Houston would be passing up a great opportunity if they draft Reggie Bush, which I fear they will. And it would be a great injustice for Young not to get to represent his hometown because there is an unexplained love affair with Reggie Bush's highlight reel. Not to mention the people of Houston would rather see Vince Young in the endzone than Reggie Bush fall short of it.

After the Rose Bowl, people were putting Vince Young down as a lock to be the first overall pick. However only a few months after the game, people have come up with numerous and seemingly unsubstantial reasons why Vince Young couldn’t cut it in the pros.

There's a great article by Michael Silver of Sports Illustrated on this subject that inspired me to write this much.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ung/index.html

Stop fooling your self and get ready for next season as Bush will be our Running Back and #1 playmaker. If you want you can cheer for Vince all you want and whatever team drafts him, but fact is Bush is a Texan so get over it.

[swtbound07]

Originally Posted by MasterC25

Stop fooling your self and get ready for next season as Bush will be our Running Back and #1 playmaker. If you want you can cheer for Vince all you want and whatever team drafts him, but fact is Bush is a Texan so get over it.

Actually no...not in any sense of the word. You cant make up a fact friend...hold off on the condescension for 7 more days okay?

[kastofsna]

young will be drafted no higher than #9.

[Mike Kerns]

Originally Posted by pelo19

Honestly what happened? Out of the blue some people only have him going to the Cardinals at pick 10. Did I miss something? Maybe he got a bad score on the Wonderlic test, nobody really knows, but that test means little compared to what you do on the field. That is the same test where Ryan Leaf scored 11 points more than Dan Marino, and those scores obviously did not reflect onto the field.

It is probably true that Vince Young will not be able to run the way he did at Texas in the pros, but then by what stretch of the imagination is Reggie Bush somehow unaffected by the 6'4" 260 linebackers that are hardly a step behind him? If anything Young would be a more successful runner than Bush, because with Bush always slashing around, and an NFL defense that is much quicker to react than a college defense, he is sure to be hit unexpectedly, and this being something he's never dealt with, he's an injury liability and he would have a high possibility of developing fumblitis.

And suddenly Vince Young is only a running quarterback? I do believe he had a higher passer rating than Matt Leinart, and almost every other high name quarterback that competed in a full season and had somewhere around a 65% completion rating. He is blessed with mobility, which he uses to make his throwing situations more comfortable. He can escape the pocket if need be and after that he can make a 60 yard throw on a line with a flick of the wrist. Plus he's a smart kid when it comes to football and he knows he's not going to be running as much in the NFL.

Not to mention he can be a team leader right out of the gates if he needs to, but the ideal situation would be for him to learn the system for a year and polish his technique. But the Rose Bowl was a clear indicator of his poise. It seems like people just have thrown that game out the window, discredited it completely.

Why are people zoning in on Vince’s awkward throwing motion? I believe it was Machiavelli that said the end justifies the means, and who really cares how he does it as long as he puts the ball where it needs to be 65% of the time. Plus his arm motion works in perfectly with his playing style, so when he’s on the run he can sling it out there without having to set his feet and stop, and so far he has had much success with this. You don’t change a good thing, and his arm has never hurt him before. Also his arm, along with his legs, led a team that had considerably less talent than USC to a National Championship. Seems more like people are just looking for an excuse to knock Vince down because they couldn’t do it on the field.

And what room is there for Reggie Bush in Houston anyways? What happened to Domanick Davis, a very talented runner that, with a team that had any sort of an O-line, could be even more effective. Plus he's only been pro for 4 years or so. Oh, well they could put Reggie Bush at flanker. Uhhh, they have Andre Johnson, a pro-bowl type Wide Receiver when he's got a passing game to be part of, also they just signed Eric Moulds and still have the capable Jabar Gaffney, so I think they have plenty of receivers. Well, Bush could be a great kick returner. They actually have one of those too, by the name of Jerome Mathis, who for lack of a better word, is greased lightning.

Well you're probably thinking that maybe Bush could split carries with Davis. That could work out, but would you waste the first overall pick of a loaded draft on a 10 play-a-game player? Or would you invest it in a player who could single-handedly rejuvenate the franchise and would play more than 10 plays a game in time?

Now I know they just signed Carr to a three-year deal, but keeping him is like writing your suicide note. O-line help isn't going to magically appear in one year so in the meantime you need a Quarterback who can operate somewhat effectively without an O-line. IMO Houston would be passing up a great opportunity if they draft Reggie Bush, which I fear they will. And it would be a great injustice for Young not to get to represent his hometown because there is an unexplained love affair with Reggie Bush's highlight reel. Not to mention the people of Houston would rather see Vince Young in the endzone than Reggie Bush fall short of it.

After the Rose Bowl, people were putting Vince Young down as a lock to be the first overall pick. However only a few months after the game, people have come up with numerous and seemingly unsubstantial reasons why Vince Young couldn’t cut it in the pros.

There's a great article by Michael Silver of Sports Illustrated on this subject that inspired me to write this much.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ung/index.html

MONARCH, is that you?

...Nah, this was in english

[MONARCH]

Greetings pelo19, and welcome to the board....

There is absolutely no need to post such a long and endearing dialogue so near the upcoming draft -- for please believe me, although your intense/passionate rhetoric rings true -- the actual wording has been disseminated over and over so much, that we are all STEELBLUE in the face.....

JUST TRUST IN YOUR HEART, AND KNOW -- THAT THE TEXANS ARE PREPARING AN ENDEARING, AND YET SOUND STRATEGY FOR THE AGES.....

OUR NATIVE SON, VINCE YOUNG -- is indeed coming home great pal -- FOR THE CLOUDS ARE STARTING TO PART -- DRAFT DAY 2006 COMETH!
MONARCH

[kastofsna]

Originally Posted by MONARCH

Greetings pelo19, and welcome to the board....

There is absolutely no need to post such a long and endearing dialogue so near the upcoming draft -- for please believe me, although your intense/passionate rhetoric rings true -- the actual wording has been disseminated over and over so much, that we are all STEELBLUE in the face.....

JUST TRUST IN YOUR HEART, AND KNOW -- THAT THE TEXANS ARE PREPARING AN ENDEARING, AND YET SOUND STRATEGY FOR THE AGES.....

OUR NATIVE SON, VINCE YOUNG -- is indeed coming home great pal -- FOR THE CLOUDS ARE STARTING TO PART -- DRAFT DAY 2006 COMETH!
MONARCH

priceless.

[chuckm]

Originally Posted by MONARCH

Greetings pelo19, and welcome to the board....

There is absolutely no need to post such a long and endearing dialogue so near the upcoming draft -- for please believe me, although your intense/passionate rhetoric rings true -- the actual wording has been disseminated over and over so much, that we are all STEELBLUE in the face.....

JUST TRUST IN YOUR HEART, AND KNOW -- THAT THE TEXANS ARE PREPARING AN ENDEARING, AND YET SOUND STRATEGY FOR THE AGES.....

OUR NATIVE SON, VINCE YOUNG -- is indeed coming home great pal -- FOR THE CLOUDS ARE STARTING TO PART -- DRAFT DAY 2006 COMETH!
MONARCH

another masterpiece ... congrats

[Porky]

Originally Posted by MONARCH

Greetings pelo19, and welcome to the board....

There is absolutely no need to post such a long and endearing dialogue so near the upcoming draft -- for please believe me, although your intense/passionate rhetoric rings true -- the actual wording has been disseminated over and over so much, that we are all STEELBLUE in the face.....

JUST TRUST IN YOUR HEART, AND KNOW -- THAT THE TEXANS ARE PREPARING AN ENDEARING, AND YET SOUND STRATEGY FOR THE AGES.....

OUR NATIVE SON, VINCE YOUNG -- is indeed coming home great pal -- FOR THE CLOUDS ARE STARTING TO PART -- DRAFT DAY 2006 COMETH!
MONARCH

Don't worry, the Meds will be here soon. In the meantime, you and your imaginary friend Pelo19, are welcome to come to the rec room, where we will be discussing the movie Sybil.

[Nawzer]

I wish VY the very best except for when he plays against us. Sometimes I think the board comes of a bit negative and harsh on VY. As a Houstonian and a long time fan of his I sincerely hope for the best with VY. Because wherever he goes, he's going to represent his hometown. But I just don't see him being drafted by the Texans and I'll leave it at that.

[Big B Texan Fan]

Originally Posted by pelo19

they have Andre Johnson, a pro-bowl type Wide Receiver when he's got a passing game to be part of, also they just signed Eric Moulds and still have the capable Jabar Gaffney, so I think they have plenty of receivers.

pelo-

loved every word of it except the part where we still have Gaffney. He's an Eagle now bro.

[Señor Stan]

Originally Posted by Porky

Don't worry, the Meds will be here soon. In the meantime, you and your imaginary friend Pelo19, are welcome to come to the rec room, where we will be discussing the movie Sybil.

I hear McMurphy will be reenacting the World Series.

[DRAMA]

Originally Posted by Señor Stan

I hear McMurphy will be reenacting the World Series.

"The next woman takes me on's gonna light up like a pinball machine and pay off in silver dollars!"

Sincerely,

Randall

[MONARCH]

Originally Posted by Porky

Don't worry, the Meds will be here soon. In the meantime, you and your imaginary friend Pelo19, are welcome to come to the rec room, where we will be discussing the movie Sybil.

REC ROOM? ......for is this what they are still calling it in TOMBALL....?

COME FORTH MY GOOD PORKY! Come and visit us within the confines of the big city "DOWNTOWN HOUSTON" -- for I would be honored to introduce you to my "theater room" -- but please be forewarned -- for we will not be at all be discussing the movie of your profound heroin "sybil", we will be discussing highlights of the 2005-06 ROSE BOWL -- TEXAS vs USC......

.....for you see, these opulent and yet plush surroundings, have certain way of making one come to their senses regarding the current state of reality.....

.....and if this does not work -- you could always bring along those meds that you are waiting for.....heck, I'll be more than happy to supply the "Ozarka".....

VINCE YOUNG IS THE ANSWER.....just you wait and see.....
MONARCH

[HJam72]

No matter what happens on draft day, I will definitely remember the name Monarch.

[swtbound07]

can we pool together to get monarch a webcam??? i wanna watch his reaction after the pick

[Mike Kerns]

MONARCH, Man, I really hope you don't disappear after the draft is over & Vince doesn't "come home." I have grown to rather enjoy your posts

[HJam72]

Originally Posted by swtbound07

can we pool together to get monarch a webcam??? i wanna watch his reaction after the pick

I'd pitch in for that!

[ThaShark316]

Originally Posted by swtbound07

can we pool together to get monarch a webcam??? i wanna watch his reaction after the pick

How bout you follow me to the draft party...OMG, I'm ready to LMAO @ the ppl who don't want Bush.

[Coach C.]

Bravo Bravo_ Vince supporters I commend you on your fortitude and never say die attitude. Keep the faith. Hope you stay Texans fans when he goes somewhere else, but if not it was a pleasure.