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Old 04-21-2006   #1
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Default Skip Bayless Pge 2 Article

.....should create some good discussion......

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...bayless/060421

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Well, at least new coach Gary Kubiak probably wants the media to believe Casserly has final say. That way, Kubiak can blame a long-gone Casserly if Young turns out to be much better than the player the Texans take. Kubiak has told sources around the league that he's a "Vince guy," but Casserly has been a "Reggie guy" from the start.
sorry just realized how long this was....may need to cut it down?
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Old 04-21-2006   #2
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Wouldn't Vince be Hakeem and Bush be Jordan?
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Yeah cut it down to a quote since it's not from HoustonTexans.com. Having a link allows anyone who reads the thread to read the full article.
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Another thing, where were Skip's dumb name changes?

There were no David "Carr wreck"
or Kyle "I should have been a Bowler"
or "Terrible" Owens

Skip is a moron. He always tries to be controversial and has polarized views.
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Yeah im pretty sure his sole reason on being on ESPN is to disagree with Woody Paige on Cold Pizza. Of course thats what a show is there for....wouldn't be very interesting if they were agreeing all day. Usually written pieces tend to be a little more honest and not so opiniated/convicted.
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Bayless is a rabble rouser, but I just happen to agree with him this time. Too bad for VY that he's made some questionable choices for somebody who was supposed to be an underdog and they cost him. The guy's just too unconventional while Reggie is unquestionably the best choice by conventional standards.

The most interesting point that he made was about Kubiak being a "Vince guy" and Casserly being a "Reggie guy." I've been under the impression that Kubiak knew going into his interview that the decision to keep Carr and draft Bush had already been made beforehand.

Just speculation. Isn't that why we're here?
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Bayless is a rabble rouser, but I just happen to agree with him this time. Too bad for VY that he's made some questionable choices for somebody who was supposed to be an underdog and they cost him. The guy's just too unconventional while Reggie is unquestionably the best choice by conventional standards.

The most interesting point that he made was about Kubiak being a "Vince guy" and Casserly being a "Reggie guy." I've been under the impression that Kubiak knew going into his interview that the decision to keep Carr and draft Bush had already been made beforehand.

Just speculation. Isn't that why we're here?
yeah that was actually what i should have quoted in the article....its the interesting part.
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its the interesting part.
And probably just as spurious as the parts of the article we disagree with.
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didn't say true.....just said interesting. who knows....but thats a pretty big lie to just tell.....its not your normal ambiguous rumor.
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You know what The Texans should do just to get everybody all bent and scratching their heads?

Bring in Vince for one more interview.
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You should probably consider whether Kubiak is really most likely to let this kind of thing out thru Bayless. Just a thought. Other Bayless opinions include "outing" Aikman and repeatedly stating Irvin was what made the Cowboys teams both as a player and leader.
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You should probably consider whether Kubiak is really most likely to let this kind of thing out thru Bayless. Just a thought. Other Bayless opinions include "outing" Aikman and repeatedly stating Irvin was what made the Cowboys teams both as a player and leader.
No doubt...gotta take him with a grain of salt. I was living in Dallas back then (the Aikman "outing.") I think that book cost him his job at 1310.

You'd be surprised how many Bubbas believed it.
Aikman was afraid to even hug Irvin at the HOF induction because he said "there'd been rumors about him." (jokingly)
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Bayless is a rabble rouser, but I just happen to agree with him this time. Too bad for VY that he's made some questionable choices for somebody who was supposed to be an underdog and they cost him. The guy's just too unconventional while Reggie is unquestionably the best choice by conventional standards.

The most interesting point that he made was about Kubiak being a "Vince guy" and Casserly being a "Reggie guy." I've been under the impression that Kubiak knew going into his interview that the decision to keep Carr and draft Bush had already been made beforehand.
Just speculation. Isn't that why we're here?
There are certain things that are said on both sides of an interview in order to get a job.

Main focus is to get the job and then figure out the details later. Someone probably coached Kubiak on their finer points and how to land the job. Keeping Carr very well could have been one of them.
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.....should create some good discussion......

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...bayless/060421



sorry just realized how long this was....may need to cut it down?
I don't like Bayless, but this article is right on target and is exactly what I've been saying for the last 4 months. The Texans are crazy if they past on Mike Jordan (errr Vince Young).
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Bayless has always been a complete moron, nothing has changed with this article.
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I don't like Bayless, but this article is right on target and is exactly what I've been saying for the last 4 months. The Texans are crazy if they past on Mike Jordan (errr Vince Young).
OK Jim Rome. Did you know Michael Jordan was going to be Michael Jordan when he entered the league?
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Kubiak says he's a Vince guy. Team picks Bush. If Bush blows up, nobody's gonna remember and if they do, well, Kubiak can say he's glad he was wrong. It's a nice CYA move.
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If it's true that Kubiak has told sources with an s, this is just sad stuff. I'm still hoping we end up with Young, but I'll get over it if it doesn't happen. It says a ton about the team if this is the truth.
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Kubiak says he's a Vince guy. Team picks Bush. If Bush blows up, nobody's gonna remember and if they do, well, Kubiak can say he's glad he was wrong. It's a nice CYA move.
I doubt Kubiak is that much of a wallflower.
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I don't like Bayless, but this article is right on target and is exactly what I've been saying for the last 4 months. The Texans are crazy if they past on Mike Jordan (errr Vince Young).
Do you honestly believe that ANY football player can have the impact on the NFL that MJ had on pro basketball? Vince Young is a good prospect, but he's not that good.

IIRC, someone else got picked in the NBA draft before MJ, and he didn't do too bad himself, either.
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