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Old 04-17-2006   #1
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Adam Schefler was on & he said we haven't even talked to Reggie Bush's people about negotiations & that we didn't even let him meet with some important people when he visited here. Pretty much stated that we don't seem very interested, while we have been in relentless pursuit of contract negotiations with Mario Williams. Wow, the backlash from passing on Young AND Bush...........
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I agree. You know D'Brick is looking pretty good if this is true.
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yeah i saw that. he was pretty wrong on all of his information, especially the raiders being "very interested" in a quarterback. they will 100% not draft a QB in the first round, book it.
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yeah i saw that. he was pretty wrong on all of his information, especially the raiders being "very interested" in a quarterback. they will 100% not draft a QB in the first round, book it.
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yeah i saw that. he was pretty wrong on all of his information, especially the raiders being "very interested" in a quarterback. they will 100% not draft a QB in the first round, book it.
Why would that be? You really think they want to book their franchise on a 3rd round, 2nd year guy? Do you really think Collins is the answer? Do you really think Davis would pass on Young or Cutler if available? What is your logic behind this verbadem?
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yeah i saw that. he was pretty wrong on all of his information, especially the raiders being "very interested" in a quarterback. they will 100% not draft a QB in the first round, book it.
Until I hear it from a second source, I have to be alittle iffy on this. Just out of the blue....... The Texans didn't even go to Mario Williams Pro Day.
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The prospect of getting Mario Williams excites me.

However I find the fact we aren't even talking to Bush about a potential contract intriguing
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Why would that be? You really think they want to book their franchise on a 3rd round, 2nd year guy? Do you really think Collins is the answer? Do you really think Davis would pass on Young or Cutler if available? What is your logic behind this verbadem?
Collins is no longer a Raider. He is a FA who is possibly going to sign with the Ravens or even retire. They signed Aaron Brooks (formerly of N.O.) to a two year contract. Just long before a draftee of this years drafts takes over.
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Adam Schefler was on & he said we haven't even talked to Reggie Bush's people about negotiations & that we didn't even let him meet with some important people when he visited here. Pretty much stated that we don't seem very interested, while we have been in relentless pursuit of contract negotiations with Mario Williams. Wow, the backlash from passing on Young AND Bush...........

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Here is the official story:

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9381854

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For the first time, there is legitimate reason to think that USC running back Reggie Bush is not going to be wind up in Houston, the city that currently holds the No. 1 overall pick.
This does not come from one source or from one team. This comes from multiple sources, from across the league, without any agenda to push.

The mounting evidence includes this:

As of Monday, the Texans had not had any contract discussions with Bush and his representatives. None.

Yet the Texans have approached North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams, trying to see if he would be receptive to discussing a deal.

But the evidence goes beyond contracts. When Bush was in Houston, a certain segment of the organization never introduced itself to the running back. This might not be unusual, but if the organization was convinced it was taking a certain player, it should be rolling out the welcome mat with everyone trying to make the player feel as at home as possible. This, according to those who know Bush, did not happen.

Then there is the simple and significant matter of need. Within the past year, the Texans signed running back Domanick Davis to a long-term extension. They also drafted wide receiver Jerome Mathis, the return man who went to the Pro Bowl during his rookie season. The Texans know they have a dependable running back and return man, the two spots Bush fills.

Houston's greater need is at defensive end, and, just as much, at left tackle, a position that could be filled by Virginia's D'Brickashaw Ferguson, who is expected to go in the top four picks.

Yet whether Houston winds up with Williams or Ferguson is unknown. What is known is that Bush no longer is a lock for Houston.

As a person in the Bush camp said Monday, "Do I have a feeling that Reggie is going to Houston? No, I have a feeling that he's not."
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There are much bigger needs than DE. If we don't get Bush I want to see us trade down or would rather see us get a freak in Vernon Davis. This info on us potentially not drafting Bush makes me think that the organization is doing a really good job trying to hide who we are going to pick and try to get teams to trade with us. If we aren't going to get Bush I would much rather see us trade down than get Mario Williams.
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I wouldn't mind Mario at all. We would have an intimidating D-Line.
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I for one will be devastated if we pass on Bush. Passing on the absolute consensus #1 overall bpa in the past decade of drafts for anyone else will be totally unforgiveable. Even if he turns out bad, no one would be able to second guess the decision. Passing on him will be second guessed for our entire existence. If we pass on Bush, we will not only be the laughing stock of the media, we will never get the national attention we deserve
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David Delotti (sp?) on 790 newsbreaks this afternoon reported that the Texans will begin discussions with Bush so that he can be signed prior to draft day. He said that there is still a faction inside the Texans org that want Mario Williams. In fact, listening now... he and said it again.

That's it for now...
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I for one will be devastated if we pass on Bush. Passing on the absolute consensus #1 overall bpa in the past decade of drafts for anyone else will be totally unforgiveable. Even if he turns out bad, no one would be able to second guess the decision. Passing on him will be second guessed for our entire existence. If we pass on Bush, we will not only be the laughing stock of the media, we will never get the national attention we deserve
Don't buy the hype... you can't definitively say a part-time receiver/back/offensive specialist is the best prospect in 10 years, it's foolishness. Superlatives generate hits, sales, and ratings. If Bush projected as LT but faster, you might have an argument, but a guy projected to get 10-20 touches per game... that's another matter. LT's pretty darn explosive and he's averaged 28 touches for his career. Durability is the difference, 5'10 220... not saying Bush isn't durable, just that he doesn't project as a workhorse.
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David Delotti (sp?) on 790 newsbreaks this afternoon reported that the Texans will begin discussions with Bush so that he can be signed prior to draft day. He said that there is still a faction inside the Texans org that want Mario Williams. In fact, listening now... he and said it again.

That's it for now...
Thanks for the update I figured they would have to talk to Bush to find out if he wants too much money in the first place...
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The Texans are going to end up passing on either Bush or Young this draft, so the likelihood of the org being "second guessed" after this draft is pretty high.

Initially I've stated that there is no way you can pass on two "generational" prospects, but if they don't go with the QB, who if successful, can lead the team for 15+ years, then I have to vote for the havoc-causing DE. Kubiak's scheme doesn't necessarily need a D'Brick, but our defense for sure needs to create some pressure. Manning doesn't look too good when that pocket closes in on him...
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Until I hear it from a second source, I have to be alittle iffy on this. Just out of the blue....... The Texans didn't even go to Mario Williams Pro Day.
miami didn't even talk to ronnie brown before last year's draft.
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i still don't see houston passing on bush.
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This may very well be a smokescreen. Teams ought to be flocking to our door with trade offers.... the Texans #1 is now more valuable(sp) than N.O. #2. If they didn't know it before, we will now entertain offers........ and if you want to stay ahead of whatever N.O. or whoever gets that spot, you've got to come see daddy.
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I for one will be devastated if we pass on Bush. Passing on the absolute consensus #1 overall bpa in the past decade of drafts for anyone else will be totally unforgiveable. Even if he turns out bad, no one would be able to second guess the decision. Passing on him will be second guessed for our entire existence. If we pass on Bush, we will not only be the laughing stock of the media, we will never get the national attention we deserve
Getting to the playoffs will get you national games. Winning that game, the one the week after, and the one the week after that, will get you national televised games.


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