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Old 04-16-2006   #1
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Default Why not Vernon Davis?

For the Reggie Bush fans I hear how dangerous and how he creates mismatches.

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Vernon Davis at TE ran a 4.37 at 252 pounds, TE is a weakness and he can block where Bush cannot.

Trade the pick, hope to get Ferguson, if not, steal Vernon Davis who creates mis matches because a LB cant cover him and he is still to fast for a Safety or to big.

6'3 252 and ran a 4.37, jeeeeezuz!
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he's not a great blocker. in fact, most of his success came when he was lined up at H-back or split out as a receiver. i don't think he'll be the huge phenom at TE right away like he's projected to be. it may take a year or two.
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he's not a great blocker. in fact, most of his success came when he was lined up at H-back or split out as a receiver. i don't think he'll be the huge phenom at TE right away like he's projected to be. it may take a year or two.
But, I'll bet he'd be a huge phenom at WR opposite AJ.
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...I'll bet he'd be a huge phenom at WR opposite AJ.
I'm guessing the huge phenom at WR opposite AJ will be Reggie Bush.
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I'm guessing the huge phenom at WR opposite AJ will be Reggie Bush.
Or Moulds or Mathis who we already have on our team...
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didn't you guys just sign putzier?
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I'm guessing the huge phenom at WR opposite AJ will be Reggie Bush.
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or Moulds or Mathis who we already have on our team...
Ditto to that last quote!

Some Texans fans seem to think we don't have anyone of quality at runningback or wide receiver. Anyone watch ESPN's broadcast today about NFL head coaches saying, "You can make a mistake choosing certain positions for your football team and you'll lose a few games because of it... but if you make a mistake choosing a quarterback it'll cost you your JOB!" David Carr sent Dom Capers packing and should've sent Charlie Casserly packing as well. I wish some REAL LIFE football coaches would get on here and critique DC's play for the last 4 years. They'd paint the REAL picture for all you Carr fans. Dillusional attachments to inadequate players make for a very poor performing football team.
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wish some REAL LIFE football coaches would get on here and critique DC's play for the last 4 years. They'd paint the REAL picture for all you Carr fans.
Why do we need REAL football coach critique's, when we have YOU? I can't think of anyone else other than the handful of Carr bashers like yourself that are so observant of his supposed lack of talents. What I wish for is any of you guys to stand behind the offensive line we had, and see if you could find a receiver in 1.5 seconds. What would be even more fun is seeing if you could extricate yourselves from the hole you just got plowed into once you haven't LOL Now THAT I'd pay to see
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Ditto to that last quote!

...I wish some REAL LIFE football coaches would get on here and critique DC's play for the last 4 years. They'd paint the REAL picture for all you Carr fans. Dillusional attachments to inadequate players make for a very poor performing football team.
It was my understanding that half a dozen REAL LIFE football coaches actually did get together with the Texans and did just that. Shortly thereafter Carr received a contract extension.

They must all be delusional.
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Imagine my surprise when I clicked on a Vernon Davis thread and it morphed into a David Carr bashing.

I did not see that coming.

P.S. Isn't Gary Kubiak considered a "real" football coach?

P.P.S. Vernon Davis finishes 2nd in the 2006 ROY voting.
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i was under the impression that texans' fans loved carr.
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Funny how this turns into a hate Carr post. GET THE EFF OVER IT!

On the NFL Network they showed Vernon Davis blocking and he did a good job. Much better than Bush who has no clue how to pick up a block.
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i'll agree with that. bush is a horrible passblocker. so is white. i guess they don't stress it at USC.
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Ditto to that last quote!

I wish some REAL LIFE football coaches would get on here and critique DC's play for the last 4 years. They'd paint the REAL picture for all you Carr fans.
Yeah! There's all kinds of real life football coaches we could be getting our info from. Guys like oh ... Mike Sherman or Dan Reeves. Or maybe we could hear from some recent NFL offensive coordinators for teams with strong offenses like ... hmm, maybe a Gary Kubiak?
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A bit of perspective.

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The only certainty about the draft is that nothing is certain -- and nothing is guaranteed. The Lions, with a top-10 pick for the fifth straight year, are proof that the draft is not a cure-all for losing. They have a 21-59 record in the last five seasons.


Gary Kubiak, the Texans' first-year coach, has a new vantage point on the draft after 11 years as an assistant and offensive coordinator in Denver. The Broncos were perennial playoff contenders and didn't have high picks.
"I've never studied this corps of players," Kubiak said at the recent league meetings in Orlando, Fla. "We were never in position to draft this type of player coming out."


Kubiak learned one thing: don't tip your hand.
"I don't know if you put out misinformation or anything," he said. "You really just try to keep your mouth shut and just keep studying and keep preparing. "Things change so much to me with the draft. They really change day to day, week to week."
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Ditto to that last quote!

Some Texans fans seem to think we don't have anyone of quality at runningback or wide receiver. Anyone watch ESPN's broadcast today about NFL head coaches saying, "You can make a mistake choosing certain positions for your football team and you'll lose a few games because of it... but if you make a mistake choosing a quarterback it'll cost you your JOB!" David Carr sent Dom Capers packing and should've sent Charlie Casserly packing as well. I wish some REAL LIFE football coaches would get on here and critique DC's play for the last 4 years. They'd paint the REAL picture for all you Carr fans. Dillusional attachments to inadequate players make for a very poor performing football team.
Next time you quote me & change what I said, how about highlighting the part you changed, or leaving the correct posters name in the quotes brackets.
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Next time you quote me & change what I said, how about highlighting the part you changed, or leaving the correct posters name in the quotes brackets.
LOL I just noticed that. I'm sure it was an innocent keyboarding error.
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LOL I just noticed that. I'm sure it was an innocent keyboarding error.
No, he had to copy & paste to get it that way. Or, he just keyed it in that way.
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Funny how this turns into a hate Carr post. GET THE EFF OVER IT!

On the NFL Network they showed Vernon Davis blocking and he did a good job. Much better than Bush who has no clue how to pick up a block.
Should a speed RB be a better blocker than a TE? Vernon Davis is not a very polished blocker yet, he definitely has the strength and athleticism to be a good blocker but has not developed into a great one yet. Anyways, why would you want Bush or Vernon Davis sitting back blocking with their speed and talent?
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i like davis alot-reggie and vernon are the outstanding offensive players in this draft- he's going to be as good as gates imo...but bush will get more touches so he's more valuable
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