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Old 04-13-2006   #1
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One of the complaints I had last year was not having a back that could consistently pick up 2-3 yards on third and short or goal line. I truly hate most passes in the red zone. With Wells probably gone, what will be the option? Is this a need in 5th or 6th round? Of course, Carr has taken one or two in...
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What about Robaire Smith? he played FB for a while in the preseason. Kind of like the Fridge.
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If I remember correctly, that was an experiment gone terribly, terribly wrong (1st and 1 at the goal, 2nd and 1 at the goal, 3rd and 1 at the goal, 4th and 1 at the goal, turnover....)
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If I remember correctly, that was an experiment gone terribly, terribly wrong (1st and 1 at the goal, 2nd and 1 at the goal, 3rd and 1 at the goal, 4th and 1 at the goal, turnover....)
yup. It was a four and out and some extra downs.
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If I remember correctly, that was an experiment gone terribly, terribly wrong (1st and 1 at the goal, 2nd and 1 at the goal, 3rd and 1 at the goal, 4th and 1 at the goal, turnover....)
it went wrong, but I seriously doubt it was Robaire's fault. I believe the fault was in the coaching. Robaire leveled the guys he blocked, but he went after the wrong guys. To me, that is a couching issue. It just looked like he didn't know who he was supposed to block.
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Bush will be our short yardage back.

Either that, or get Vickers in the draft.
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Bush isn't a short yardage guy. Neither is DD, really. Although if youll check, DD has an incredibly successful goaline carry average
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Bush isn't a short yardage guy. Neither is DD, really. Although if youll check, DD has an incredibly successful goaline carry average
I thought we drafted him to be our third down back?
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How about we use Moran Norris or Jameel Cook to be our short yardage back
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See....now, Bush can get 2 to 3 yards just by vaulting over the pile.
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How about we use Moran Norris or Jameel Cook to be our short yardage back
I think Moran had one carry all season
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I think Moran had one carry all season
I know I'm just throwing it out there
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If your looking for a power back they better stay away from Lendale White. That tub of lard can't get two yards on fourth down in the Rose Bowl much less the NFL.
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Bush isn't a short yardage guy.
Hog wash!!!

Bush has to get past the first yard before he can pick up the second, third, forth, etc......If you can't pick up one yard, then he can't pick up 20. Just because Bush is not expected to be a "between the tackles runner" doesn't mean we shouldn't use him in short yardage.
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What about Robaire Smith? he played FB for a while in the preseason. Kind of like the Fridge.
Unfortunately, I think Smith only got a chance to block on that set of downs. It was funny, because he blocked extremely well, but someone else was able to hit the back. He ended up in the endzone everytime after his block, so it probably would have been better if he had just taken the ball himself. I think it's a distinct possibility, if the new staff thinks he is capable of holding on to the ball. I think he'd be a great short yardage back, he's pretty quick for a big guy, and doesn't look like he's afraid to hit someone. I always wondered why big guys didn't get some carries since they can be hard to get down.
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Hog wash!!!

Bush has to get past the first yard before he can pick up the second, third, forth, etc......If you can't pick up one yard, then he can't pick up 20. Just because Bush is not expected to be a "between the tackles runner" doesn't mean we shouldn't use him in short yardage.
I agree that bush will be able to run between the tackles better than people think, but what makes short yardage different is that they stack the box and put 8 or 9 guys right at the line. u have to either be really strong or really slippery to get through, and some backs are really good at getting those yards (Domanic Davis in my opinion) and some just dont seem to ever pick the right gap or make the right move to get there, Reggie Bush hasnt proven that he can do that, yet. (but i do think he will be better at it than people think he will be.)
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Look for DD or Jameel Cook to get the call in those stacked situations. DD and Bush have somewhat similar styles of running while in traffic, but DD is a bit more powerful, likely due to his compact build, so look for him to get the call early and then Jameel Cook if DD cannot get the job done.
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Look for DD or Jameel Cook to get the call in those stacked situations. DD and Bush have somewhat similar styles of running while in traffic, but DD is a bit more powerful, likely due to his compact build, so look for him to get the call early and then Jameel Cook if DD cannot get the job done.
Agreed. I don't expect to ever see Robaire Smith in the offensive backfield for us.
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No one mentioned TE Mark Breuner @ 6'4"260 lbs and has "some" experience with ball in his hands. Is that a possibility? No one thinks we should use a 6th or our last 7th for a 'bruiser' type? Well, I hope this is not as big as a concern as I first thought.
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