Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > Football Talk > College Football & the 2014 NFL Draft
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


College Football & the 2014 NFL Draft The future stars of the NFL

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-10-2006   #1
dwilt72
Veteran
 
dwilt72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Age: 56
Posts: 198
Rep Power: 11 dwilt72 is ridin' the pine
Default McClain and the Titans

Does anyone else get tired of John McClain and his rooting for the Titans? They left town! Get over them! He was here in town when Carl Mauck was here and Carl would have said, "If you want to be a fan of theirs leave town". His newest deal is rooting for the Titans to pick Vince Young.....WHY? Does he really want the Texans to have to deal with Vince twice a year? That's my worst nightmare. I would rather have Vince to go to Dallas than the Titans! At least if he went to Dallas, we would only have to face him every 4 years (and probably only two or three times in his career).

Hey McClain, if you want to pull for the Titans, take your fat butt up to Hillbilly Holler!
dwilt72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #2
chuckm
Hall of Fame
 
chuckm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Spring
Age: 53
Posts: 1,896
Rep Power: 15 chuckm was voted MVPchuckm was voted MVPchuckm was voted MVPchuckm was voted MVP
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dwilt72
His newest deal is rooting for the Titans to pick Vince Young.....WHY?
He's in the media ...... Young in Tennessee gives him a lot to write/talk/pontificate about .... Leinhart in Tennessee isn't quite the same ....
__________________
Sabbatical: an extended period away from our daily routine to refresh our minds and spirits
chuckm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #3
jerek
Pro Hobbyist
 
jerek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dublin, OH
Age: 34
Posts: 6,632
Rep Power: 11661 jerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to jerek
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckm
He's in the media ...... Young in Tennessee gives him a lot to write/talk/pontificate about .... Leinhart in Tennessee isn't quite the same ....
"Pontificate" ... good word.

I don't think Young will go to TN.
__________________
It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. - Voltaire
jerek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #4
Mike Kerns
LYSB Podcast
 
Mike Kerns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: West Houston
Section: My Living Room
Age: 36
Posts: 2,645
Rep Power: 1518 Mike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to Mike Kerns Send a message via Yahoo to Mike Kerns Send a message via Skype™ to Mike Kerns
Default

I personally believe that it depends on if someone trades up with the Saints to take Leinart. If Reggie & Leinart are off the board 1- 2, I think Vince could be a Titan. Would prefer to see him go to the Jets or the Packers.
Mike Kerns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #5
jerek
Pro Hobbyist
 
jerek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dublin, OH
Age: 34
Posts: 6,632
Rep Power: 11661 jerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to jerek
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frak The Jags
I personally believe that it depends on if someone trades up with the Saints to take Leinart. If Reggie & Leinart are off the board 1- 2, I think Vince could be a Titan. Would prefer to see him go to the Jets or the Packers.
True, I could see that being the case. Supposedly the Saints really like Williams, but I haven't heard hard evidence of that yet.
__________________
It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. - Voltaire
jerek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #6
Mike Kerns
LYSB Podcast
 
Mike Kerns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: West Houston
Section: My Living Room
Age: 36
Posts: 2,645
Rep Power: 1518 Mike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respectedMike Kerns is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to Mike Kerns Send a message via Yahoo to Mike Kerns Send a message via Skype™ to Mike Kerns
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubix Kube
I would like for him to end up in Green Bay. Supposedly Ted Thompson the GB GM is very high on Vince.
With the Favre situation & apparently, Aaron Rodgers isn't as good as they hoped, it wouldn't at all shock me.
Mike Kerns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #7
dwilt72
Veteran
 
dwilt72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Age: 56
Posts: 198
Rep Power: 11 dwilt72 is ridin' the pine
Default

I agree. I think VY will end up in Green Bay or Oakland.
dwilt72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 04-10-2006   #8
aj.
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,769
Rep Power: 658 aj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

With the Houston links to his team fading, don't think for a minute that Bud will pass up the opportunity to re-seed with Vince. He is probably slobbering all over himself (even more than usual) with all those $$$ visions of Titans 10 jerseys everywhere on the streets of Houston and Austin - in addition to regular sales in the Nashville area for any QB they would take. Would Leinart jersey sales in LA bring in more revenue than VY jerseys in Texas (on top of what they will already sell in Nashville)?

Don't think for a minute that this hasn't crossed his mind. It's one more way for him to stick it to his old foes around here and re-establish a loosening foothold in Bob McNair's home market.

Bud will put Jeff and Floyd in a bit of a tough position by forcing this decision. The pressure on the coaching staff to win now is apparent, but Vince may not ripen for two or three years - after which I think he will be an even better version of #9. However, Fisher and Reese (Fisher for sure) may not last through one or two more 5-11 / 6-10 seasons.

This is a classic Bud setup. Now that he's calling the shots again, the only thing more certain than death 'n taxes is him dictating the choice of VY at 3 - and not purely for football reasons.

Last edited by aj.; 04-10-2006 at 12:21 PM.
aj. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #9
LoneStarState
Veteran
 
LoneStarState's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 46
Posts: 480
Rep Power: 11 LoneStarState is a team player
Default

I always thought McLain should have moved to Tenn with the Oilers. Maybe he'll move to where ever VY is drafted. Green Bay would be good.
__________________
Don't start none, won't be none...
LoneStarState is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #10
bckey
Hall of Fame
 
bckey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 53
Posts: 2,332
Rep Power: 15763 bckey is a quality contributor and well respectedbckey is a quality contributor and well respectedbckey is a quality contributor and well respectedbckey is a quality contributor and well respectedbckey is a quality contributor and well respectedbckey is a quality contributor and well respectedbckey is a quality contributor and well respectedbckey is a quality contributor and well respectedbckey is a quality contributor and well respectedbckey is a quality contributor and well respectedbckey is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

ESPN reported this morning that they speculate Tennessee will cut Steve McNair loose and draft a qb. They also said to look for him to end up in Baltimore.
bckey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #11
bad
Veteran
 
bad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 352
Rep Power: 12 bad is on the Pro-Bowl ballotbad is on the Pro-Bowl ballot
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frak The Jags
I personally believe that it depends on if someone trades up with the Saints to take Leinart. If Reggie & Leinart are off the board 1- 2, I think Vince could be a Titan. Would prefer to see him go to the Jets or the Packers.
Another possibility: if Bush & Leinart are off the board, the Titans might be receptive to a trade down, pick up someone like Omar Jacobs later on and stockpile some extra picks. They could stay where they are and take Williams or Ferguson. They have a proven capable QB on their roster in Billy Volek and the time may be now to play him or lose him. I'm sure Chow would love Leinart, but if he's gone (like say, to the Jets through a trade with the Saints) I think the door's blown wide open and there's no telling what they'll do.

Vince to the Packers would be a hoot but his best fit may be with the Cardinals.
bad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #12
aj.
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,769
Rep Power: 658 aj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respectedaj. is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bckey
ESPN reported this morning that they speculate Tennessee will cut Steve McNair loose and draft a qb. They also said to look for him to end up in Baltimore.
Bud said two weeks ago that they were taking a QB - and I don't think it was a leverage deal against McNair. Not a stretch by ESPN.

Quote:
"We ought to get a pretty good quarterback out of this draft,'' (Bud) Adams said at the NFL owners meetings in Orlando, Fla. "Drafting No. 3, we ought to get a pretty good quarterback in that spot right there. … I hope we get a guy who can be our leader for about 10 years. It's time for that, I think.''
http://www.rctimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll.../1002/MTCN0302
aj. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #13
dwilt72
Veteran
 
dwilt72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Age: 56
Posts: 198
Rep Power: 11 dwilt72 is ridin' the pine
Default

Not sure I would call Volek a proven capable QB either. How many games has he played in?
dwilt72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #14
bad
Veteran
 
bad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 352
Rep Power: 12 bad is on the Pro-Bowl ballotbad is on the Pro-Bowl ballot
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dwilt72
Not sure I would call Volek a proven capable QB either. How many games has he played in?
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/188108

2-to-1 TD to INT ratio.

Career QB rating of 86.9

Carr was his backup in college.
bad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #15
Double Barrel
Modified Simian
 
Double Barrel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Onward, Upward, and back into the Trees
Section: Gridiron, Tx
Age: 48
Posts: 31,096
Rep Power: 340250 Double Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckm
He's in the media ...... Young in Tennessee gives him a lot to write/talk/pontificate about .... Leinhart in Tennessee isn't quite the same ....
yep, this is probably the crux of the matter. McClain is self-serving, so this would be the best scenario for his career.
__________________
"Football is only a diversion." ~ HOUSTON TEXANS
Double Barrel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #16
jerek
Pro Hobbyist
 
jerek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dublin, OH
Age: 34
Posts: 6,632
Rep Power: 11661 jerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respectedjerek is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to jerek
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by aj.
With the Houston links to his team fading, don't think for a minute that Bud will pass up the opportunity to re-seed with Vince. He is probably slobbering all over himself (even more than usual) with all those $$$ visions of Titans 10 jerseys everywhere on the streets of Houston and Austin - in addition to regular sales in the Nashville area for any QB they would take. Would Leinart jersey sales in LA bring in more revenue than VY jerseys in Texas (on top of what they will already sell in Nashville)?

Don't think for a minute that this hasn't crossed his mind. It's one more way for him to stick it to his old foes around here and re-establish a loosening foothold in Bob McNair's home market.

Bud will put Jeff and Floyd in a bit of a tough position by forcing this decision. The pressure on the coaching staff to win now is apparent, but Vince may not ripen for two or three years - after which I think he will be an even better version of #9. However, Fisher and Reese (Fisher for sure) may not last through one or two more 5-11 / 6-10 seasons.

This is a classic Bud setup. Now that he's calling the shots again, the only thing more certain than death 'n taxes is him dictating the choice of VY at 3 - and not purely for football reasons.
Interesting conspiracy theory. I am not as well acquainted with Bud as are some of the more veteran members on this board (I am only 25, and lived in Europe throughout my high school years and went to college in east Texas) ... but I admit that though seemingly far fetched, this seems to carry some weight. Either way, an interesting thought.
__________________
It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. - Voltaire
jerek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #17
Runner
Hubcap Diamond
 
Runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,747
Rep Power: 36043 Runner is a quality contributor and well respectedRunner is a quality contributor and well respectedRunner is a quality contributor and well respectedRunner is a quality contributor and well respectedRunner is a quality contributor and well respectedRunner is a quality contributor and well respectedRunner is a quality contributor and well respectedRunner is a quality contributor and well respectedRunner is a quality contributor and well respectedRunner is a quality contributor and well respectedRunner is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Barrel
yep, this is probably the crux of the matter. McClain is self-serving, so this would be the best scenario for his career.
If McClain wanted to be self-serving about his Houston career, he should get over to Reliant and check out how the line-ups have been juggled so far. He could get some buzz.
__________________
Amy glances out the window; her hair, skin, and clothes take on a pronounced reddish tinge from Doppler effect as she drops out of the conversation at relativistic velocity. - Cryptonomicon
Runner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #18
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
 
Texans_Chick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,248
Rep Power: 74671 Texans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respected
Default BTW and as an aside, you can never say "Bud Sucks" enough.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aj.
Bud said two weeks ago that they were taking a QB - and I don't think it was a leverage deal against McNair. Not a stretch by ESPN.

This will be an interesting situation for the Budster.

IIRC, the Dud never had a PR guy until he went to TN and got in trouble with the natives some various stuff he was doing and saying--such as saying they were gonna get to name the team, but trying to suggest that they be the Tennessee Oilers before people freaked. (Don't have a link for that, just something I remember reading in the Chronic back in the day and thinking, well Bud, maybe you should had one of them PR types before being an idiot in the way you tried to get a new stadium).

OK, so Dud is already on some Titanhick fan's ****list for the manner in which Steve McNair was told on site not to show up for off-season prep. McNair, by most accounts, is Mr. Community service and not long removed from his MVP and even in his down seasons looks pretty good.

I wonder if Dud forces a VY grab against what the coaches want, not taking Chow's guy Leinart and the local guy Cutler, I wonder if the fans will just see this as that ill-dressed, ill-mannered, ill-coifed Houston interloping buffoon trying to Texify their team more and get mad about it. (I am guessing their choice might end up getting gossipy and ugly if they aren't careful).

One way or another, I would prefer to see VY with the Jets or Green Bay--really anybody but TN or Dallas.
Texans_Chick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #19
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
 
Texans_Chick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,248
Rep Power: 74671 Texans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dwilt72
Does anyone else get tired of John McClain and his rooting for the Titans? They left town! Get over them! He was here in town when Carl Mauck was here and Carl would have said, "If you want to be a fan of theirs leave town". His newest deal is rooting for the Titans to pick Vince Young.....WHY? Does he really want the Texans to have to deal with Vince twice a year? That's my worst nightmare. I would rather have Vince to go to Dallas than the Titans! At least if he went to Dallas, we would only have to face him every 4 years (and probably only two or three times in his career).

Hey McClain, if you want to pull for the Titans, take your fat butt up to Hillbilly Holler!

I like John McClain. Don't always agree with him or some of the gratuitous potshots he takes for a cheap joke, but usually I enjoy listening and reading his columns more than most.

This morning on 610, he did take some big time swipes at the Titans organization with some of the things Bud does and the way they handle press.
Texans_Chick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2006   #20
Vinny
shiny happy fan
 
Vinny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 50
Posts: 21,845
Rep Power: 161784 Vinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bad
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/188108

2-to-1 TD to INT ratio.

Career QB rating of 86.9

Carr was his backup in college.
Billy Volek = Cody Carlson. Quality back up player but once teams catch up to him he doesn't have enough skill to get the job done. Carlson coudn't replace Moon and Volek would fail replacing McNair imo.
__________________
http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk


"A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow
Vinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > Football Talk > College Football & the 2014 NFL Draft
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger