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Old 04-05-2006   #1
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Default Reggie Bush vs DeAngelo Williams Career #'s

Reggie Bush Career Stats
Games Played 39
RUSHING ATT 433 YRDS 3312 LOSS 143 NET 3169 TD 25 AVG 7.32
PASSING ATT 3 COMP 1 YRDS 52 TD 1 INT 0
Two Point Conv 0
Receiving NO 95 YDS 1301 TD 13 AVG 13.69474
Punt Returns No 44 559 TD 3 AVG 12.70455
Kick off Returns NO 67 YDS 1522 TD 1 AVG 22.71642
CAREER TOTAL TD 43 POINTS 258

DeAngelo Williams Career Stats
Games Played 44
RUSHING ATT 969 YRDS 6280 LOSS 254 NET 6026 TD 55 AVG 6.22
PASSING ATT 2 COMP 0 YRDS 0 TD 0 INT 0
Two Point Conv 1
Receiving NO 70 YDS 723 TD 5 AVG 10.33
Punt Returns NA
Kick off Returns NO 37 YDS 824 TD 0 AVG 22.27
CAREER TOTAL TD 60 POINTS 360
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Old 04-05-2006   #2
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Did Williams split time with another back ?
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Give me Bush. Williams was a 4 year starter (maybe 3 year) in a lesser than talented conference. Although, Williams did put up those numbers with a horrible line.
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I argue that their is no comparison, Reggie is a way better at scoring, but Williams is a proven between the tackles runner.
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Then why isn't D. Williams rated #1 ON MOST scouts, GM's, coaches, Monday morning QB's, laymens, fans/non fans, media reporters list, etc. BUSH all the way, hype or no hype, he's proven #1, plus he has a Heisman, something Williams does'nt!
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Why was Ryan Leif ranked higher than Payton Manning?
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Why was Ryan Leif ranked higher than Payton Manning?
He wasn't, but why start letting the facts affect you now?
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Facts? Who was picked first, and do your research, he was ranked higher in many mock drafts. But Williams is not better than Bush, I was just putting some food for thought out there, not Bashing Bush in any way.
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Facts? Who was picked first, and do your research, he was ranked higher in many mock drafts. But Williams is not better than Bush, I was just putting some food for thought out there, not Bashing Bush in any way.
Manning was picked 1st.
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ohh o.k. Payton Manning was picked ahead of Ryan Leaf. Anything else we want to change about history, is the earth flat again?
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DeAngelo Williams isn't near the TB Reggie Bush is. I covered DeAngelo some in high school and am very familiar with him. I think he will be a good one, but there's more than stats to look at when comparting Reggie and DeAngelo. DeAngelo hurt himself this year when he didn't play against Tennessee and coach ripped him in paper next day. You said you weren't saying DeAngelo is better than Reggie, I hope not because I have seen both play in person more than once and there is no comparison.
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ohh o.k. Payton Manning was picked ahead of Ryan Leaf. Anything else we want to change about history, is the earth flat again?


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I do argue that Williams is more proven on the bias that he played on a team where 100% of the focus of every opponents gameplay was market directly towards him due to a lack of talent on his team. Take Williams, play him at USC and this might be another story.
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Taking thier college careers alone, I think you can come to the conclusion that D'Angelo is a better (pure) running back, but Bush the more potent "offensive threat", if that even makes logical sense...
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Exactly, great post TreWardTxn
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I do argue that Williams is more proven on the bias that he played on a team where 100% of the focus of every opponents gameplay was market directly towards him due to a lack of talent on his team. Take Williams, play him at USC and this might be another story.
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ohh o.k. Payton Manning was picked ahead of Ryan Leaf. Anything else we want to change about history, is the earth flat again?
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Taking thier college careers alone, I think you can come to the conclusion that D'Angelo is a better (pure) running back, but Bush the more potent "offensive threat", if that even makes logical sense...
D'Angelo is going to be a nice, nice pick for whoever picks him. He's being rated soooo low, in comarison. Adai is also going to be a "big" surprise.

But, if you think about the, "Lienart is more NFL ready" argument, the same is true for D'Angelo. He was played the way you play a #1 overall back, IMHO. Between the tackles, 20+ carries a game. Well, Reggie did play in an NFL type system, but he wasn't the NFL type back.

I think it is funny the way the Reggie Bush fans don't see it the same way. Even though there is no team in the NFL right now, that plays a running back the way "we" want to play Reggie. Not one. The offense is going to have to be tailored to Reggie, to fully utilize, and benefit Reggie.

IMHO, there are at least four systems that Vince can come in and be successful right away. Atlanta, New Orleans(last years system. I'm sure they were in the shotgun more than UT was), Indy, & Denver.

I can just imagine the rebuttals I'll get for this post....... there are all kinds of running backs in the NFL, and REggie has the talent to be successful in any system........ or it's easier for a running back to be successful than it is a QB.......

Yet there have been many non-conventional QBs who have come into the NFL, and been successful early in their carreers. & there have been all kinds of running backs with all kinds of talent that wasn't immediately successfull.
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Taking thier college careers alone, I think you can come to the conclusion that D'Angelo is a better (pure) running back, but Bush the more potent "offensive threat", if that even makes logical sense...

The same can be said about a pair of QBs in this draft......... but some people say thinks that's silly.
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