David Loverne signed - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

aj. · 03-31-2006

Who, you say?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo.../players/4740/

Interior o-line depth. Per a report on SR610.

TexanSam · 03-31-2006

Well he was a starter in 2002 and 2004 for most of the season. I don't know how good those O-lines were though. 2002 was Washington. 2004 was Detroit.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133345

**ArlingtonTexan** · 03-31-2006

From what I could gather has had a history of injuries, but still could be an effective back-up if there are no developmental type prospects.

Joe Texan · 03-31-2006

When is Carl Shirley gonna sign

Grid · 03-31-2006

good move. Was talking about this with a friend last night. If we have Moulds.. that leaves are two biggest holes at DB, OT, and OG.

We have starters at OT and OG.. but we lack depth.. all in all we would have 1 OT and 1 OG as depth. I figured we would probably make some low key "depth" signings on the line. Glad that the FO agrees with me

Señor Stan · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by Joe Texan

When is Carl Shirley gonna sign

and does Loverne get to wear a large cursive "L" on his jersey?

**edo783** · 03-31-2006

From the Chronic.

Texans add guard Loverne

The Houston Texans agreed to terms with free agent guard David Loverne on Friday.
Loverne, who spent the last two seasons with the Detroit Lions, did not play last season after suffering a torn biceps.

The 6-foot-3, 299-pound player has started 24 career games and also played for the New York Jets, St. Louis and Washington.
He was a third round pick of the Jets in 1999.

Bubbajwp · 03-31-2006

Already been posted.
http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zon...ad.php?t=20547

**beerlover** · 03-31-2006

He missed last season (2005) with a torn Bicep....

good zone blocking fit in Kubiacs style, not strong but quick if he can stay healthy

dalemurphy · 03-31-2006

If we're correct in assuming Wade will be a June 1st cut, I think one of two things must be true:

1. We're actually going to take Ferguson.

2. Kubiak and company have a much higher opinion of both Pitts and Wand than the previous staff. Some, myself included, have argued for two years that most of the OL problems were interior problems. Especially in 2004, I came away from the season quite impressed with Wand. He only committed 3 penalties the entire season (very low total for a tackle) and I thought he rarely was badly beat. Furthermore, the team didn't double or chip often. And, a number of the sacks he was collared with were a result of the inability of Carr to step up into the pocket, either because the interior line was beaten or because of Carr's lack of presence in the pocket.

We have now signed two interior linemen (loevrne, Flanagan) and resigned one (Weary). Meanwhile, other than meeting with Ashworth, I don't think any effort has been made to sure up the tackle position.

**ArlingtonTexan** · 03-31-2006

Dale,

I think the other option is that they believe Weigert plays RT well enough.

dalemurphy · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan

Dale,

I think the other option is that they believe Weigert plays RT well enough.

I'm sure they see him as depth at the position. However, I doubt they are counting on a 34 year old, injury-prone guy to start at a position he hasn't really played in three years. I'm sure they will be spending a first day pick on a tackle also. However, if they cut Wade and don't draft Ferguson or sign anyone else at tackle, I think it's clear they like Wand.

outofhnd · 03-31-2006

I think wand will do great on the RT, he does great against power rush the problem is when he has to take on a speed rusher. Then he loses his momentum and instead of holding turns him loose.

keyfro · 03-31-2006

loverne is a good signing...it greatly improves our depth of just fred weary...it really has yet to be seen if we're going to move weigert to RT or keep him at RG...obviously it will depend on who we are able to pick in the second round...if winston or scott are there i think we'll let them fight it out with weigert for the RT position and the loser will get the RG position...wade i see either being cut after june 1st or we are going to hear that he as restructured his deal so we can trade him to a team that needs a mauling RT for it's running game...like the panthers or patriots

TexanFan881 · 03-31-2006

nothing wrong with adding some depth, and the good thing is that I don't see us paying him that much, but I do not see him really having an impact on this team unless players go down during the season.

Frank_The_Tank · 03-31-2006

Well he is 6'3 299, I checked Denver last year and he fits the mold of the guys they had out their, he has been a starter in the past which can't be bad. I hope he comes in hungry for PT and wins a starting job. Heck he can't be worse than what was on the field last year! Another OL addition to the team,

ALL RIGHT !!!!!!!!!

TexanFan881 · 03-31-2006

I don't think your size makes you good or bad. If he can play, he can, I don't think the fact that he's 6ft. 3in. and almost 300 pounds has to do with anything.

Frank_The_Tank · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by TexanFan881

I don't think your size makes you good or bad. If he can play, he can, I don't think the fact that he's 6ft. 3in. and almost 300 pounds has to do with anything.

Is it a mear coincidence that every OL on Denver is around that size or smaller. A zone blocking scheme needs slimmer, more agile OL to be productive. They did a big wirite up on if at FOXSPORTS but it is clearly evident that the more sucessful OL in Denver were around 290 some were under 290. They had one big bodied kid at right tackle last year and he was a backup that got to play in 4 games and he was like 317. I hope some of the larger bodied linemen on the Texans can be good as well, but thinner line men make it easier for the RB to find holes. Just a proven fact! They are not drive you deep into the linbacker OL they are hit you in the mouth in a hurry and move you latterally left or right into strategic points to open lanes for the RB's.

TexanFan881 · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Texas

Is it a mear coincidence that every OL on Denver is around that size or smaller. A zone blocking scheme needs slimmer, more agile OL to be productive. They did a big wirite up on if at FOXSPORTS but it is clearly evident that the more sucessful OL in Denver were around 290 some were under 290. They had one big bodied kid at right tackle last year and he was a backup that got to play in 4 games and he was like 317. I hope some of the larger bodied linemen on the Texans can be good as well, but thinner line men make it easier for the RB to find holes. Just a proven fact! They are not drive you deep into the linbacker OL they are hit you in the mouth in a hurry and move you latterally left or right into strategic points to open lanes for the RB's.

I know what your saying and I think that's why Kubiak wanted him here. But I just don't think that he will do anything here and he will not start for us just because of his size. I don't think he can beat out or even pressure any of our starters for their starting job.

Frank_The_Tank · 04-01-2006

No I understood you, I was just trying to rationalize why this guy could be in the mix of things next year. I mean, Kubiak of Denver, prefered thinner more athletic OL. I believe this is one of the reasons Houston was not jumping out of the gates running after the monster OL in the beginning of the FA. This is also my reasoning on why we will have alot of poetential in this years draft at the OL spot because the kid from OSU, Miami, and even Scott from Texas will all be their in the second, and scott in the 3rd. I Hope!

03-31-2006	#1
aj. Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,769 Rep Power: 657	David Loverne signed Who, you say? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo.../players/4740/ Interior o-line depth. Per a report on SR610.

03-31-2006	#4
Joe Texan Inducted 04 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spring Section: 116 row a seat 20 Age: 50 Posts: 9,784 Rep Power: 4089	When is Carl Shirley gonna sign __________________ PRAYERS TO THE FALLEN AT FT. HOOD

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edo783 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, again. Posts: 7,700 Rep Power: 4640	Texans add free agent Gaurd From the Chronic. Texans add guard Loverne The Houston Texans agreed to terms with free agent guard David Loverne on Friday. Loverne, who spent the last two seasons with the Detroit Lions, did not play last season after suffering a torn biceps. The 6-foot-3, 299-pound player has started 24 career games and also played for the New York Jets, St. Louis and Washington. He was a third round pick of the Jets in 1999. __________________ De Oppresso Liber

03-31-2006	#13
outofhnd All Pro Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 36 Posts: 723 Rep Power: 9	I think wand will do great on the RT, he does great against power rush the problem is when he has to take on a speed rusher. Then he loses his momentum and instead of holding turns him loose. __________________ Where have all the Running backs gone?

03-31-2006	#14
keyfro Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 1,859 Rep Power: 13	loverne is a good signing...it greatly improves our depth of just fred weary...it really has yet to be seen if we're going to move weigert to RT or keep him at RG...obviously it will depend on who we are able to pick in the second round...if winston or scott are there i think we'll let them fight it out with weigert for the RT position and the loser will get the RG position...wade i see either being cut after june 1st or we are going to hear that he as restructured his deal so we can trade him to a team that needs a mauling RT for it's running game...like the panthers or patriots __________________ With the 10th overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft the Houston Texans select...?????

03-31-2006	#2
TexanSam Hall of Fame Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston Age: 25 Posts: 16,608 Rep Power: 23265	Well he was a starter in 2002 and 2004 for most of the season. I don't know how good those O-lines were though. 2002 was Washington. 2004 was Detroit. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133345

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ArlingtonTexan Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 5,258 Rep Power: 19442	From what I could gather has had a history of injuries, but still could be an effective back-up if there are no developmental type prospects.

03-31-2006	#5
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	good move. Was talking about this with a friend last night. If we have Moulds.. that leaves are two biggest holes at DB, OT, and OG. We have starters at OT and OG.. but we lack depth.. all in all we would have 1 OT and 1 OG as depth. I figured we would probably make some low key "depth" signings on the line. Glad that the FO agrees with me

03-31-2006	#9
beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,357 Rep Power: 15075	He missed last season (2005) with a torn Bicep.... good zone blocking fit in Kubiacs style, not strong but quick if he can stay healthy

03-31-2006	#10
dalemurphy Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Austin Section: Bullpen/ 636 Age: 39 Posts: 5,165 Rep Power: 10996	If we're correct in assuming Wade will be a June 1st cut, I think one of two things must be true: 1. We're actually going to take Ferguson. 2. Kubiak and company have a much higher opinion of both Pitts and Wand than the previous staff. Some, myself included, have argued for two years that most of the OL problems were interior problems. Especially in 2004, I came away from the season quite impressed with Wand. He only committed 3 penalties the entire season (very low total for a tackle) and I thought he rarely was badly beat. Furthermore, the team didn't double or chip often. And, a number of the sacks he was collared with were a result of the inability of Carr to step up into the pocket, either because the interior line was beaten or because of Carr's lack of presence in the pocket. We have now signed two interior linemen (loevrne, Flanagan) and resigned one (Weary). Meanwhile, other than meeting with Ashworth, I don't think any effort has been made to sure up the tackle position.

03-31-2006	#15
TexanFan881 Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Illinois Age: 23 Posts: 2,794 Rep Power: 580	nothing wrong with adding some depth, and the good thing is that I don't see us paying him that much, but I do not see him really having an impact on this team unless players go down during the season. __________________ Proud Adoptee Of Our Future Starting Running Back Chris Taylor

03-31-2006	#16
Frank_The_Tank Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 31 Posts: 340 Rep Power: 8	Well he is 6'3 299, I checked Denver last year and he fits the mold of the guys they had out their, he has been a starter in the past which can't be bad. I hope he comes in hungry for PT and wins a starting job. Heck he can't be worse than what was on the field last year! Another OL addition to the team, ALL RIGHT !!!!!!!!!

04-01-2006	#20
Frank_The_Tank Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 31 Posts: 340 Rep Power: 8	No I understood you, I was just trying to rationalize why this guy could be in the mix of things next year. I mean, Kubiak of Denver, prefered thinner more athletic OL. I believe this is one of the reasons Houston was not jumping out of the gates running after the monster OL in the beginning of the FA. This is also my reasoning on why we will have alot of poetential in this years draft at the OL spot because the kid from OSU, Miami, and even Scott from Texas will all be their in the second, and scott in the 3rd. I Hope!

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