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Old 05-07-2004   #81
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right...we can move on from this and hopefully be a wiser and better team because of this...coleman is a leader on this team and i expect him to take the punishment without compliant to show to the younger guys that he takes the responsiblity for his actions...that would speak volumes especially to the rookies to see a vet on the team show that kind of respect to the organization after a fault like this...coleman is a team player and i know he'll do the right thing
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This type of behavior happens in all leagues. I expect the league will take the appropriate action as will the team.

He hopefully will learn a lesson as we all must sometimes-the hard way.
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Don't forget, Marlon McCree is still on the roster and played a pretty god safety last season. Even if Coleman gets some sort of suspension, we may not miss too many steps!
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Default Coleman arested on DWI

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1796402


Well, I know we can all make mistakes, but dang. This close to traning camp, and already having problems. Its a good thing he isn't our only safety option.
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I am very sad Marcus did this. This kinda of let me down on the type of person and morales he might have had. Everyone makes a mistake, very true, but Drinking and Driving is one of the worst things you can do. I hear a few who say.. "It is bad.. but not that bad.." Lose a daughter, son, friend, or someone to 'someone having a good time', and I think your opionon will change.

What do I think he should happen to him for punishment? No suspension, no release, no fine! I think his punishment needs to be for him to spend a certain amount of hours at the hospital (being on call) telling unlucky families the extremely hard job that thier family members or friends were injured or killed by drunk drivers that happens all to often. One of my friends recieved this punishment a few years ago in court... and it has stayed with him.. His quote "I didnt hurt anyone in my DWI, but after that experience.. I felt like each person I told about thier family members, I felt like it was my fault".

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It is funny watching this. I really am suprised the NFL Oklahoma team fans aren't jumping on this to get some payback I am kidding of course.

Bottom line is this.. He made a mistake and Luckily noone was hurt. Coleman doesn't walk on water.. Heck even Steve McNair last year drank a little much. Many of us have drank a little much.

I think the problem with this is when people read "arested for DWI" the 1st thought is a person that is so drunk they can't walk and are stumbling all over. Sometimes that is the case and sometimes it isn't ..
State may prove intoxication in three (3) different ways:
- not having the normal use of physical faculties OR
- not having the normal use of mental faculties OR
- having an alcohol concentration of 0.08 or more.

Basically what that says is .08 is no doubt the line of charged with intoxication... I am sure you have seen some people drink one or 2 beers that have never really drank before.. well that is another way of DWI without the .08 boundary.. esp if you wreck or do something stupid..basically is that you can have lower than a .08 and still get a DWi.. (in general, and not saying Coleman was or wasn't lower than .08)

I read that Coleman didn't take the breath analyzer.. big whoop... almost everbody bypasses that if they think they are over .08 or have any doubts in their mind that they might be close. And if many of yall where in that situation.. you'd probably risk that too and get your "driving pass"

I am not defending Coleman, but some people seem to swing to the left and others to the right on the issue. And basically we don't know all the facts of the case or seen the tape of him that night.

All I know is that he drank and wrecked..Cops came and smelled alcohol on his breath... who knows after that.. heck all the wrecks I had.. no drop of alcohol here
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I am very sad Marcus did this. This kinda of let me down on the type of person and morales he might have had. Everyone makes a mistake, very true, but Drinking and Driving is one of the worst things you can do. I hear a few who say.. "It is bad.. but not that bad.." Lose a daughter, son, friend, or someone to 'someone having a good time', and I think your opionon will change.

What do I think he should happen to him for punishment? No suspension, no release, no fine! I think his punishment needs to be for him to spend a certain amount of hours at the hospital (being on call) telling unlucky families the extremely hard job that thier family members or friends were injured or killed by drunk drivers that happens all to often. One of my friends recieved this punishment a few years ago in court... and it has stayed with him.. His quote "I didnt hurt anyone in my DWI, but after that experience.. I felt like each person I told about thier family members, I felt like it was my fault".

Just an Idea.

To me a DWI class and something like you just stated would be good for people to do when they are getting to the age of 21 (or 18) when they are learning to drive.


What is wild and I have no problem with it is the New Mexico is trying to pass a bill that would require drivers to have that breath analyzer in the car and you would have to blow in it before the car would start on ALL vehicles.. and not just the people convicted of the offense
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In case you want to read about DWI law and where I got some of the info

http://www.crimlawyers.net/dwi.htm
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What is wild and I have no problem with it is the New Mexico is trying to pass a bill that would require drivers to have that breath analyzer in the car and you would have to blow in it before the car would start on ALL vehicles.. and not just the people convicted of the offense
Oh geez. How about a test for marijuana also before starting up the car while we are at it? Also, maybe a small laboratory would be good to have in the back seat so we can check for cocaine and other drugs the person may have in their system before letting them start the engine.
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too funny :d They said on the radio about the new mexico thing is because New Mexico as a state has the highest DWI rates in the country and they are trying to lower that..
If I remember correctly it cost 1000 bucks to put it in the car.. I am not sure many people could afford to pay for that or would want to .. .Unless I guess a good insurance discount
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some of ya'll, i.e. CaptainPatriot, seem to want to deal out the punishment yourselves...even against your own player in ty law...which i find funny seeing how many years he's devoted himself to the new england patriots...not everything is as black and white as ya'll might like to believe...and remember he has only been charged with this misdemeanor i remind you...this isn't a felony...i know everyone has their own issues with me saying this but it's the law...it's only a misdemeanor...same as any traffic violations...and keep in mind this one the state does take more seriously...but speeding, not stopping at signals, and wreckless driving all kill people as well...so don't try and read too much into a DWI...people can blow a .09 and be given a DWI and that's a hundreth of a point above the legal limit...and with some people that's only 2 or 3 drinks...i know i'm a bartender...i see people leave my bar all the time get in their cars and leave...and i garentee you none of them should be driving...you want punishment to be so damn harsh because he's a player...that the nfl should get involved along with the texans...man i hope if you ever get pulled over for a misdemeanor your boss puts some extra punishment onto that so you know how it feels...i know let's get a camera crew out there too and show your picture all over the 6 o'clock news to everybody...the way this issue has been treated is silly...blown way out of purportion in my eyes...cause we hold our athletes to a higher standard...although good it does have it's bad points as well...remember you are a fan and should support your players and coaches with everything they do...not just through the good times
No I want punishment to be harsh on any individual who gets behind the wheel with a over limit alcohol blood level not just ball players. As for devotion it goes out the window when you break the Law. We all make choices in life. Our Law System is to laxed. This is the 2nd time Coleman is in a traffic issue. You say we should support our players and coaches.Sorry I can`t support a coach who uses the University Credit Card to get a room with a Hooker! While his family is in another hotel. These are Adults making their own decisions. These are not mistakes. Now if a player or coach is wrongfully accused I can see your point. I would have more respect for Colman if he would have taken the Breath Test.
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A lot of people don't take the breath test. Right or wrong, that is what a clients lawyer would recommend .. I hear that the breathe tests aren't exactly accurate. I don't know if Coleman went the blood test route after that or not. Also I read that whether you take it or not (the breath test), you are basically already charged with DWI.. so if what everybody says (defense lawyers) is true..why rely on a machine that supposively isn't accurate? you don't necessarily have to have a .08 to be considered "drunk" according to the state law. Mainly the law is saying .08 and it is a given... but ANY drug (whether Nyquil,beer or not) that affects your ability to function mentally or physically could be considered "DWI" if your abilities are impaired.. the part of not taking the test.. well you do get automatic suspension of your liscense (180 days or so? )


Patriot you are right.. our law is sometimes lax.. I have seen a one time offender get sentenced and then after that a 2nd time offender get sentenced.. The difference of the whole fine,probation,aa meeting etc... 100 bucks ... I couldn't believe that. I thought a 2nd time offender would be taken to the cleaners... but when I saw that was in 1989.. Laws have been becoming stricter thou.
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don't know how accurate this DWI FAQ is but this is a harris county law firm thing. http://www.schneiderandmckinney.com/...nswers_faq.htm


In a perfect world.. I would like to see people say.. yes I had too much to drink and am guilty..

Colemans 1st offense with the law.. I don't know about that much..
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Of course a lawyer will tell you not to do anything that could prove your guilt. Refusal to blow in a DWI investigation can result in suspension of your driver's license.
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Do you guys actually he is going to have to do jail time??? He'll enter a plea where all he has to do is community service and pay a fine.
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it's not something i like to admit, but i have received a dwi ... learned the hard way that i'm too skinny for the 3 drink rule. my penalties included a weekend in jail, 40 hours of community service, a year probation, liscence suspended for 90 days, a pair of mandatory dwi classes, and around $5,000 spent between court costs, fines, probation fees, and lawyer fees. from the folks i have talked to, that was about the average of what punishment they received. it didnt really have any effect on my work but then i'm not celebrity. i would expect about the same punishment for coleman with not much action from the nfl ... coleman knew better than i did & didnt take the breathalizer so he'll plead innocent or no contest and receive some of the above penalties i'd assume (1% chance of any jail time, not gonna happen). i dont think the texans will get on coleman too much but i would think they would try to get coleman to a counselor if for nothing else, public relations.

for reference, something i learned is that you have up to 2 hours to retake the tests and if you're sure you're legal, ask for a blood analysis instead of breathalizer.
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For those of us who show up four hours before each home game. and leave two hours after it is a good idea to have a designated driver for a safe ride home.

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This will be dealt with by the NFL and the Texans and it will be dealt to Marcus himself. You have no authority to dish out any punishment so put a sock in it. We have the best front office in the NFL and they will deal whats fair. I will accept what they say and I will respect the innocent untill proven guilty rule. Every thing that is said about punishment is premature at this point. Patience is what will decide Marcus' and the teams fate.
I am sure Marcus will respect the "if you do the crime, then do the time" rule.
Hey Joe Texan how can you tell me to "put a sock in it"! I`m not handing out Punishment. I`m saying the laws need to be changed. All it takes is THE 1ST TIME!It`s obvious that you have not lost a Love one to a drunk driver. My Parent`s next door neighbor lost the only granddaughter they had . She was celebrating her 18th Birthday. On the way home she was hit head on by a Drunk Driver never made it to her Graduation! The Grandparents have never been the same. Its like their heart was ripped out of their chest! That is why I have been so vocal about this thing (DUI of Colman). This is much bigger than NFL or Texans. It is like the Pink Elephant in the Living Room. It`s obvious that Colman has a drinking problem (IE:was found asleep on 59) Why wasn`t a Breath and blood test done then? You have to wonder what other times has he crashed into something before this? Only reason he got caught this time was beacuse he couldn`t get his car started and back on the road. Colman if you are reading this please get HELP! Your not drinking RESPONSIBLY! Because it is just a matter of time before you become a statistic IE:Rams Little :-( Hopefully this will be the wake up call you need! Joe Texan next time you tell me 'to put a sock in it" Think about the Families who Love 1`s didn`t make it home last night because someone got behind the wheel after not drinking RESPONSIBLY and unfortunately miss the tree and hit a Car or Pedestrian! I`m curious are they any people out there that have lost a love 1 because of a Drunk Driver? If there are you have my deepest Sympathy
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No I haven't but have had some close calls.
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A recent study found that a driver who is talking on a cell phone has reaction times 3 times slower than someone who is over the legal limit on alcohol. I think MADD needs to refocus their efforts and become MACP (Mother's against Cell Phones) if they want to save lives due to vehicle accidents.
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